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CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Santa Clara County, 16 March 2012 - #4
Sierra LaMar, 15, has been missing since Friday, March 16. She left home early that morning to walk to her bus stop for school. Her cell phone was found along a local roadway shortly after, and her purse/bag was also found later.
Facebook page - www.facebook.com/help.find.sierra
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Katydid in reply to your question on the other thread. Yes they can recover deleted tweets ,messages and such.It is amazing what they can recover now days.
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Update:: The Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office says they will not conduct a search for Sierra Lamar Sunday. Instead investigators say they are working on documenting the interviews they have conducted over that last several days. They will also evaluate the next steps in the investigation.
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I think the crime lab found something interesting on her laptop or phone and the FBI is working on tracing it down today, MOO.
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Katydid in reply to your question on the other thread. Yes they can recover deleted tweets ,messages and such.It is amazing what they can recover now days.
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Technology freaks me out. Tin-foil hat time: I am always afraid that one day down the road my ancestors will be "sleuthing" me and people will have access to people's online history from like 50 years ago - like search terms, old long and gone websites/blogs and FB pages, etc. I never ever use real information anywhere because I don't want a permanent, infinite mark on the internet. Thank god I don't have kids yet and it will be many moons before I have teenagers. I hope by then technology/privacy/FB all join hands and get along. Sorry if that went kind of OT but social media, if you really think about it, is frigthening. I guess that will be my generations "Rock and Roll is the devil's music".
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Sadly what connects all these puzzles is that there's a victim@the heart of each
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From what I understand it is supposedly this shirt that she is wearing in the above photo.. photo supposedly taken within minutes prior to her leaving her house last Friday.. and that it is this shirt that is believed to have been found neatly folded in her pink and black juicy Couture bag that was located off the road..
I believe it is this Sharks shirt that has been the focus and somewhat mystery due to the fact its assumed that very soon thereafter she snapped this pic of her wearing the Sharks shirt that she was out the door headed to school.. therefore strange is it that it appears to be the same Sharks shirt that is neatly folded along with pants, panties and bra in her pink and black juicy Couture bag..the bag that was located couple miles from the home, off the side of the road..
Or do I have it all jumbled and wrong? Is there a different Sharks shirt that is involved or just the one that she is wearing in the pic taken Friday, March 16, 2011?
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"I'm hoping that you know, you think of her as your own child," Marlene LaMar said. "You know, she's, she was such a lovable young lady."
Speaking in the past tense,wonder what LE/FBI told her?
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Has there been any MSM information about her school books?
Been trying to find info and found one place that says her Juicy bag was where they were and most others just guessing. I know it's been speculated if she would have carried books or classroom books on cd...
I was specifically interested if LE or MSM has mentioned it.
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I think there is a jersey AND a sweatshirt. But the sweatshirt that you showed in the picture is what she was wearing when she took a picture on her computer that morning. HOWEVER, my DD used to always change her sweatshirt or her jacket at the very very last minute on the way to school. She may have done the same thing, and just packed it for later. She may have put on a different hoodie or not worn one at all, especially if she was expecting a ride from someone.
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Has anyone heard if anyone besides mom, moms bf, and Sierra live in the house?
Did they have anyone working at the house, yard, cleaning, etc?
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From what I understand it is supposedly this shirt that she is wearing in the above photo.. photo supposedly taken within minutes prior to her leaving her house last Friday.. and that it is this shirt that is believed to have been found neatly folded in her pink and black juicy Couture bag that was located off the road..
I believe it is this Sharks shirt that has been the focus and somewhat mystery due to the fact its assumed that very soon thereafter she snapped this pic of her wearing the Sharks shirt that she was out the door headed to school.. therefore strange is it that it appears to be the same Sharks shirt that is neatly folded along with pants, panties and bra in her pink and black juicy Couture bag..the bag that was located couple miles from the home, off the side of the road..
Or do I have it all jumbled and wrong? Is there a different Sharks shirt that is involved or just the one that she is wearing in the pic taken Friday, March 16, 2011? |
Frircc no one knows for sure what she left the house wearing. There has been to many different statements that vary one her mom saw her in pjs one in a sharks shirt one in a sharks sweatshirt. Imho I think the clothes were a spare set.
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Her mom from almost day 1 has spoken of her in past tense. I have learned not to put much weight in the way her mom speaks right now.
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Has there been any MSM information about her school books?
Been trying to find info and found one place that says her Juicy bag was where they were and most others just guessing. I know it's been speculated if she would have carried books or classroom books on cd...
I was specifically interested if LE or MSM has mentioned it.
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"It was her clothing. It was things that she would have kept with her and it was school books. We believe she was on her way to school. It shouldn't have been where it was. It definitely elevates our concerns," said Sheriff Laurie Smith of the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Department.
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There is probably a lot FBI knows about the social networks then we know because you can send a private message on Facebook or Twitter.Unless you have their password you won't be able to see it.With their superb technology they can see it all,everything coming or going.I am willing to bet they have some good information.Not to mention the cell phone.Believe me nothing is really private.
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From what I understand it is supposedly this shirt that she is wearing in the above photo.. photo supposedly taken within minutes prior to her leaving her house last Friday.. and that it is this shirt that is believed to have been found neatly folded in her pink and black juicy Couture bag that was located off the road..
I believe it is this Sharks shirt that has been the focus and somewhat mystery due to the fact its assumed that very soon thereafter she snapped this pic of her wearing the Sharks shirt that she was out the door headed to school.. therefore strange is it that it appears to be the same Sharks shirt that is neatly folded along with pants, panties and bra in her pink and black juicy Couture bag..the bag that was located couple miles from the home, off the side of the road..
Or do I have it all jumbled and wrong? Is there a different Sharks shirt that is involved or just the one that she is wearing in the pic taken Friday, March 16, 2011? |
Dunno. They have not released a color. I thought it was this one. Only because there is another shark pic on her tumblr.
~ moo I am probably wrong though.
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* ETA: I am wrong this is a "phantom shark" sweatshirt!
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yep! I was wrong! BIG time. lol
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's a jersey, not a sweatshirt or a tshirt and while her hair could be blocking it, I don't see the official NHL patch on the front of the V and the top of the fin looks more like the logo from a few seasons back, but it could just be distorted. All FWIW.
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Curiouser and Curiouser. I'm thinking she would have worn the hoodie or some other sort of hooded jacket due to the weather. No 15 year old girl is about to walk around school in the rain and look like a drowned rat after doing their hair and makeup...which leads me to the other point...if she knew someone willing to give her a ride to school that morning, she'd certainly have had good reason to not want to walk to the bus stop in the rain.
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Curiouser and Curiouser. I'm thinking she would have worn the hoodie or some other sort of hooded jacket due to the weather. No 15 year old girl is about to walk around school in the rain and look like a drowned rat after doing their hair and makeup...which leads me to the other point...if she knew someone willing to give her a ride to school that morning, she'd certainly have had good reason to not want to walk to the bus stop in the rain.
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I agree. Maybe someone found the rain the window of opportunity to get Sierra in the car with him/her/them. Someone she felt comfortable going with. Possibly a classmate or an acquaintance from the neighborhood. I am thinking they would have lived close by since it would have looked suspicious for someone far away just showing up unless there is a record of someone texting her about a ride. But nothing like that has been released. How long had she been at the new school?
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I agree. Maybe someone found the rain the window of opportunity to get Sierra in the car with him/her/them. Someone she felt comfortable going with. Possibly a classmate or an acquaintance from the neighborhood. I am thinking they would have lived close by since it would have looked suspicious for someone far away just showing up unless there is a record of someone texting her about a ride. But nothing like that has been released. How long had she been at the new school?
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's a jersey, not a sweatshirt or a tshirt and while her hair could be blocking it, I don't see the official NHL patch on the front of the V and the top of the fin looks more like the logo from a few seasons back, but it could just be distorted. All FWIW.
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It is distorted ! She took it with an FFC (forward facing camera) or with her webcam either one...
the images are always back werds!!! lol
here does this help?
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Curiouser and Curiouser. I'm thinking she would have worn the hoodie or some other sort of hooded jacket due to the weather. No 15 year old girl is about to walk around school in the rain and look like a drowned rat after doing their hair and makeup...which leads me to the other point...if she knew someone willing to give her a ride to school that morning, she'd certainly have had good reason to not want to walk to the bus stop in the rain.
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--it didn't start raining that day until shortly after 5 p.m.
--from midnight----5 p.m. on the 16th, it was scattered clouds / overcast, followed by 'light rain' at 5:24 p.m. turning to 'heavy rain' , briefly, at 9 p.m.
--when she allegedly left , at 7:15 a.m. it was overcast and 55 F.
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Dunno. They have not released a color. I thought it was this one. Only because there is another shark pic on her tumblr.
~ moo I am probably wrong though.
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