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Old 04-10-2012, 05:54 PM
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Clairfication on WS stance regarding the "victim friendly" issue.
I had a discussion with the owners about how we were to deal with this. This is what I was advised:
At this point in the investigation we don't KNOW exactly who ALL the victims are now. We KNOW that Trayvon is a victim, because he is dead. However, news breaks and new leaks come forth everyday and it is still unclear whether Zimmerman was a victim of any violence. Until more verifiable FACTS are available, WS has chosen to err on the side of treating both the confirmed (Trayvon) AND potential (Zimmerman) victim, both as victims.
Like I said, that may change after we have more verifiable information
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:25 PM
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:34 PM
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1 hour and 26 minutes until the press conference... hopefully announcing the arrest of George Zimmerman and the charge/s he faces.
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:35 PM
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4/11/12 pc 6:30pm est

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...rtin-case?lite -
"Corey's office confirmed that a news conference would be at 6 p.m. ET in Jacksonville, Fla." - little less than an hour & half away.
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:35 PM
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I seen a tweet from Richard Hornsby alone the same line
He said Aggravated Manslaughter of a child (First Degree Felony)
due to Trayvon being under 18.
reading the Florida Statues....I am not sure he can be charged with the 1st Degree Felony....it takes more then TM being under 18.....the aggravated manslaughter of a child 1st degree has more to do with child abuse
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Does anyone believe GZ will be charged with Aggravated Manslaughter because of Trayvon's age? I don't know if that will happen?
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Carrying over a question from the other thread.

Does anyone have a source for TM's drug test results?
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:40 PM
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Does anyone believe GZ will be charged with Aggravated Manslaughter because of Trayvon's age? I don't know if that will happen?
I guess that depends on the actual evidence, but I would be perfectly content for them to charge him with manslaughter and tack on felony bad judgement for inflicting F. Taafe on us. IMO JMHO and stuff
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:41 PM
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Does anyone believe GZ will be charged with Aggravated Manslaughter because of Trayvon's age? I don't know if that will happen?
not sure if my post got caught in the door of the last thread, but reading the florida statue it takes more then TM being under 18......the 1st degree agravated has more to do with child abuse and neglect. imo
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:41 PM
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Carrying over a question from the other thread.

Does anyone have a source for TZ's drug test results?
SS, you mean TM right? They allegedly are not back yet. (at least not to the knowledge of the public)
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:41 PM
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I just found out via my BFF facebook page and burst into tears (yall know how I am) trying to get caught up as to what EXACTLY is gonna happen, let this boy have justice since he wasnt allowed a long life...
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Carrying over a question from the other thread.

Does anyone have a source for TZ's drug test results?
I think there was some confusion on the other thread because it appears someone claimed TM's results were available. No link was provided though.

I am pretty darn sure they have not been released.

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Carrying over a question from the other thread.

Does anyone have a source for TM's drug test results?
She admitted she made a mistake with that post.
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:45 PM
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SS, you mean TM right? They allegedly are not back yet. (at least not to the knowledge of the public)
hth
Yeah, TZ. I saw someone refer to his results being negative.

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So, that post is wrong?
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A/P "Official" (unidentified source)

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The law enforcement official said that authorities knew where Zimmerman was and were planning to arrest him soon rather than let him turn himself in. The official said he was not in Florida

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She admitted she made a mistake with that post.
Ok, thank you.

I didn't think they had been. I've googled and found nothing.
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TM

(doc fessel just posted that it was incorrect)
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Does SYG apply if a minor is killed?

Does anyone know if he can still invoke SYG in regards to a minor?
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/quote/ reading the Florida Statues....I am not sure he can be charged with the 1st Degree Felony....it takes more then TM being under 18.....the aggravated manslaughter of a child 1st degree has more to do with child abuse/quote/

I think being shot to death would qualify as child abuse.
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I just did the math... if took us 21 full threads and just over 23,000 posts to get to this point. Amazing!
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reading the Florida Statues....I am not sure he can be charged with the 1st Degree Felony....it takes more then TM being under 18.....the aggravated manslaughter of a child 1st degree has more to do with child abuse
What is more abusive than murdering? ^i^
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A/P "Official" (unidentified source)

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The law enforcement official said that authorities knew where Zimmerman was and were planning to arrest him soon rather than let him turn himself in. The official said he was not in Florida

more at link

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
If FL LE is going to arrest him (rather than let him turn himself in) then he must be of FL or else they would not have the jurisdiction to arrest him.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Know? View Post
A/P "Official" (unidentified source)

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The law enforcement official said that authorities knew where Zimmerman was and were planning to arrest him soon rather than let him turn himself in. The official said he was not in Florida

more at link

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
BBM I don't like the words "knew" and "was." Those are past tense? Are they telling us that they don't know where he is now?

ETA: And I just seen the "were" ... of boy!!
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Ok, thank you.

I didn't think they had been. I've googled and found nothing.
Here is where she says she made a mistake.

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if fl le is going to arrest him (rather than let him turn himself in) then he must be of fl or else they would not have the jurisdiction to arrest him.
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