17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #22

[gxm]

Originally Posted by frenchvixen

Does anyone know if he can still invoke SYG in regards to a minor?

Good question!

[nursebeeme]

http://livewire.wesh.com/Event/Prose...on_Martin_Case

prayer vigil at 7 tonight

[BetteDavisEyes]

Originally Posted by LolaMoon08

59 minutes! Wish I had some beer? Can the mod's bring us some shots from the sidebar? I tried to yesterday, but it wasn't as nice as the Mod's bars?

According to CNN/HLN, Bourbon is the drink of the day

[codecracker]

Originally Posted by Cher352

Anyone know anything about the FL statute this article is talking about?



http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinio...html?hpt=hp_t1

once GZ is charged, the defense can file for the charges to be dismissed under this statue, they will then go before a judge and the defense will attempt to prove their case, this is one part of our justice system where the weight is on the defense to prove it was self defense or syg law. the judge can agree with the defense and dismiss the charges, this doesn't stop the procescutor can appeal that decision if that happens.

[Dr.Fessel]

Originally Posted by mercuriod

At this site,

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog...ill-be-charged

They are already broadcasting live (but I don't think they realize they are broadcasting) from the Jacksonville Courthouse, the newscaster and a lawyer were chatting and the lawyer said that even if A. Corey charged GZ with the lesser charge of manslaughter that GZ will still face life in prison because of using a gun in the commission of a crime.

YES! We live for hot mics around here!

[LolaMoon08]

Originally Posted by nursebeeme

http://livewire.wesh.com/Event/Prose...on_Martin_Case

prayer vigil at 7 tonight

That's what I like to hear! Peaceful vigils! My heart is with Trayvon's family to night! They did what any parent would have done in their shoes and they did it will dignity and class.

[Isabelle]

Originally Posted by uvamerica

Can I ask a question (mods), now that GZ is being charged, are we to still consider him a victim ?

(not that I ever thought he was)

I didn't before today and will never!

[Adrienne37]

Originally Posted by LolaMoon08

I love that you put Trayvon's mothers words as your signature! It puts a smile on my face everytime I read it.

Such class and dignity that this woman has. I applaud her, I sympathize with her, and I admire her for standing strong through her fight for Trayvon. Trayvon was certainly fortunate that he has two such wonderful parents.

[nursebeeme]

Martin'
s family has announced they will hold a news conference in Washington, D.C. immediately following the announcement from Angela Corey.
by Andrea Dennis/WESH.com 4:51 PM


Read more: http://livewire.kcci.com/Event/Prose...#ixzz1rlhrLrcX

[frenchvixen]

Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel

If he is out of state I say he is in NY.

I seriously doubt it. NYS does not have SYG and GZ likes to tote his gun around. Plus, based on how NY embraced TM's family I doubt he would come here well not in NYC anyways...

[Intexas]

Hi,

This is my first post, so I want to make it clear this is inference, but I hope it's not considered wild speculation. I just keep wondering why no one in the news is pointing out that the gun used in this case (a Kel Tec PF 9) is one that is noted for serious recoil. I'm sort of hoping that if an arrest is possibly today if it won't be brought up, but I sort of doubt it.

Here is a video popular on You Tube that shows the recoil issue with the Kel Tec 9 mm in slow motion.

Kel-tec PF-9 Recoil Demonstration & Failure to Eject - YouTube

Kel-tec PF-9 Recoil Demonstration & Failure to Eject - YouTube

Here is an article stating this the gun used in the Martin case.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,7100977.story

The reason I bring it up is that if you have spent time in a gun range you see injuries as those mentioned by Zimmerman often, especially if the gun in question is a "barker", or has a strong recoil. If the shooter doesn't hold the gun correctly it literally flies up hitting the shooter in the face, and often knocks the individual to the ground. (Hard!) Recoil accidents are more common than I guess most people realize.

This is another popular video off Youtube with a random bad stance (and nervous) shooter.

Woman hit in face by gun recoil LOL! - YouTube

Woman hit in face by gun recoil LOL! - YouTube

I'm surprised with all the coverage, and taking time to look at the videos and audio of the case no has even mentioned recoil as a possibility in regards to the shooter's injury. I'm not saying he wasn't attacked, or that I know what happened, it's just strange no one is bringing up what seems like a good question regarding the gun used.

If this isn't the right way to post I'm sorry in advance, but the media not mentioning the gun issue or really any of the hard evidence either way is sort of frustrating.

[Storm]

Originally Posted by frenchvixen

I seriously doubt it. NYS does not have SYG and GZ likes to tote his gun around. Plus, based on how NY embraced TM's family I doubt he would come here well not in NYC anyways...

He may feel most safe in the Sanford PD....^i^

[frenchvixen]

Originally Posted by Isabelle

I didn't before today and will never!

He is and has always been a victim of his own delusions!

[ynotdivein]

Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel

YES! We live for hot mics around here!

Everyone, remain seated!!!

[Isabelle]

Originally Posted by nursebeeme

http://livewire.wesh.com/Event/Prose...on_Martin_Case

prayer vigil at 7 tonight

Hope it's streamed or televised. I'd like to be there.

[jaded cat]

Originally Posted by Smelly Squirrel

Carrying over a question from the other thread.

Does anyone have a source for TM's drug test results?

Smelly Squirrel, I made the mistaken post that TM's tox screen results were public knowledge and I retracted that post. Didn't delete it but apologized for posting incorrect info.

[frenchvixen]

Originally Posted by LolaMoon08

That's what I like to hear! Peaceful vigils! My heart is with Trayvon's family to night! They did what any parent would have done in their shoes and they did it will dignity and class.

Isn't that something about dignity and class? It can't be bought. I don't think TM's parents have gone past maybe 1 year of college however they have class. Look at GZ's attorneys' behavior yesterday. All of that education and foufou stuff means nothing. They are such low class individuals.. a total turnoff

[Nore]

No one should ever have to think of their child in a body bag.
It hits to the depth of ones soul. I cry.

[2goldfish]

Originally Posted by Intexas

Hi,

This is my first post, so I want to make it clear this is inference, but I hope it's not considered wild speculation. I just keep wondering why no one in the news is pointing out that the gun used in this case (a Kel Tec PF 9) is one that is noted for serious recoil. I'm sort of hoping that if an arrest is possibly today if it won't be brought up, but I sort of doubt it.

Here is a video popular on You Tube that shows the recoil issue with the Kel Tec 9 mm in slow motion.

Kel-tec PF-9 Recoil Demonstration & Failure to Eject - YouTube

Here is an article stating this the gun used in the Martin case.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,7100977.story

The reason I bring it up is that if you have spent time in a gun range you see injuries as those mentioned by Zimmerman often, especially if the gun in question is a "barker", or has a strong recoil. If the shooter doesn't hold the gun correctly it literally flies up hitting the shooter in the face, and often knocks the individual to the ground. (Hard!) Recoil accidents are more common than I guess most people realize.

This is another popular video off Youtube with a random bad stance (and nervous) shooter.

Woman hit in face by gun recoil LOL! - YouTube

I'm surprised with all the coverage, and taking time to look at the videos and audio of the case no has even mentioned recoil as a possibility in regards to the shooter's injury. I'm not saying he wasn't attacked, or that I know what happened, it's just strange no one is bringing up what seems like a good question regarding the gun used.

If this isn't the right way to post I'm sorry in advance, but the media not mentioning the gun issue or really any of the hard evidence either way is sort of frustrating.

wow, thank you for that info. we havent talked about it cause we had no idea, I wager!

[uvamerica]

Originally Posted by Intexas

Hi,

This is my first post, so I want to make it clear this is inference, but I hope it's not considered wild speculation. I just keep wondering why no one in the news is pointing out that the gun used in this case (a Kel Tec PF 9) is one that is noted for serious recoil. I'm sort of hoping that if an arrest is possibly today if it won't be brought up, but I sort of doubt it.

Here is a video popular on You Tube that shows the recoil issue with the Kel Tec 9 mm in slow motion.

Kel-tec PF-9 Recoil Demonstration & Failure to Eject - YouTube

Here is an article stating this the gun used in the Martin case.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,7100977.story

The reason I bring it up is that if you have spent time in a gun range you see injuries as those mentioned by Zimmerman often, especially if the gun in question is a "barker", or has a strong recoil. If the shooter doesn't hold the gun correctly it literally flies up hitting the shooter in the face, and often knocks the individual to the ground. (Hard!) Recoil accidents are more common than I guess most people realize.

This is another popular video off Youtube with a random bad stance (and nervous) shooter.

Woman hit in face by gun recoil LOL! - YouTube

I'm surprised with all the coverage, and taking time to look at the videos and audio of the case no has even mentioned recoil as a possibility in regards to the shooter's injury. I'm not saying he wasn't attacked, or that I know what happened, it's just strange no one is bringing up what seems like a good question regarding the gun used.

If this isn't the right way to post I'm sorry in advance, but the media not mentioning the gun issue or really any of the hard evidence either way is sort of frustrating.

Your doing great !

[Isabelle]

Originally Posted by Intexas

Hi,

This is my first post, so I want to make it clear this is inference, but I hope it's not considered wild speculation. I just keep wondering why no one in the news is pointing out that the gun used in this case (a Kel Tec PF 9) is one that is noted for serious recoil. I'm sort of hoping that if an arrest is possibly today if it won't be brought up, but I sort of doubt it.

Here is a video popular on You Tube that shows the recoil issue with the Kel Tec 9 mm in slow motion.

Kel-tec PF-9 Recoil Demonstration & Failure to Eject - YouTube

Here is an article stating this the gun used in the Martin case.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,7100977.story

The reason I bring it up is that if you have spent time in a gun range you see injuries as those mentioned by Zimmerman often, especially if the gun in question is a "barker", or has a strong recoil. If the shooter doesn't hold the gun correctly it literally flies up hitting the shooter in the face, and often knocks the individual to the ground. (Hard!) Recoil accidents are more common than I guess most people realize.

This is another popular video off Youtube with a random bad stance (and nervous) shooter.

Woman hit in face by gun recoil LOL! - YouTube

I'm surprised with all the coverage, and taking time to look at the videos and audio of the case no has even mentioned recoil as a possibility in regards to the shooter's injury. I'm not saying he wasn't attacked, or that I know what happened, it's just strange no one is bringing up what seems like a good question regarding the gun used.

If this isn't the right way to post I'm sorry in advance, but the media not mentioning the gun issue or really any of the hard evidence either way is sort of frustrating.

I brought that up earlier and was shoo shooed! Doesn't sound like a very good gun. I think he shot from a distance, the recoil popped his nose and he fell backward hitting his head against a tree or waste receptacle (there was a large, tall green one along the walk way in one of the pics of the area).

[frenchvixen]

How many of you think that KC feels like Velma Kelly from the play Chicago? All eyes used to be on her at one time but now even her attorney has his eyes on another hot story. There will always be another sensational murder story.

[LolaMoon08]

Originally Posted by Intexas

Hi,

This is my first post, so I want to make it clear this is inference, but I hope it's not considered wild speculation. I just keep wondering why no one in the news is pointing out that the gun used in this case (a Kel Tec PF 9) is one that is noted for serious recoil. I'm sort of hoping that if an arrest is possibly today if it won't be brought up, but I sort of doubt it.

Here is a video popular on You Tube that shows the recoil issue with the Kel Tec 9 mm in slow motion.

Kel-tec PF-9 Recoil Demonstration & Failure to Eject - YouTube

Here is an article stating this the gun used in the Martin case.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,7100977.story

The reason I bring it up is that if you have spent time in a gun range you see injuries as those mentioned by Zimmerman often, especially if the gun in question is a "barker", or has a strong recoil. If the shooter doesn't hold the gun correctly it literally flies up hitting the shooter in the face, and often knocks the individual to the ground. (Hard!) Recoil accidents are more common than I guess most people realize.

This is another popular video off Youtube with a random bad stance (and nervous) shooter.

Woman hit in face by gun recoil LOL! - YouTube

I'm surprised with all the coverage, and taking time to look at the videos and audio of the case no has even mentioned recoil as a possibility in regards to the shooter's injury. I'm not saying he wasn't attacked, or that I know what happened, it's just strange no one is bringing up what seems like a good question regarding the gun used.

If this isn't the right way to post I'm sorry in advance, but the media not mentioning the gun issue or really any of the hard evidence either way is sort of frustrating.

Great post!!

[TotallyObsessed]

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[frenchvixen]

Originally Posted by codecracker

once GZ is charged, the defense can file for the charges to be dismissed under this statue, they will then go before a judge and the defense will attempt to prove their case, this is one part of our justice system where the weight is on the defense to prove it was self defense or syg law. the judge can agree with the defense and dismiss the charges, this doesn't stop the procescutor can appeal that decision if that happens.

Did I hear the two clown attorneys that used to represent GZ say this morning or afternoon that they have received new information to the case that has made them see the case differently? Did I misunderstand them?