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Old 04-19-2012, 11:39 AM
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To me it is really strange Officer Smith did not arrest Zimmerman for carrying a concealed weapon.
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To me it is really strange Officer Smith did not arrest Zimmerman for carrying a concealed weapon.
If he had a permit, why would that be strange?
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They didn't change the tape, they just cut a part out. That's way different than actually altering (photoshopping) an image. The comparison would be if they actually somehow changed the 911 tape to make GZ say something that was never said.

Even so, there were reprimands even for that.
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To me it is really strange Officer Smith did not arrest Zimmerman for carrying a concealed weapon.
He was licensed to carry a concealed weapon at the time (
http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...-concealed-gun)

That was almost surely revoked when he was recently arrested and charged.
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They didn't change the tape, they just cut a part out. That's way different than actually altering (photoshopping) an image. The comparison would be if they actually somehow changed the 911 tape to make GZ say something that was never said.

Even so, there were reprimands even for that.
These are two different news agencies. IMO also, One got called out because the editing was obvious. The other one didn't because the public doesn't have any real proof of GZ'a injuries to call foul on that pic.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:46 AM
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To me it is really strange Officer Smith did not arrest Zimmerman for carrying a concealed weapon.
Why? It is my understanding he had a permit to carry a concealed weapon.
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If he had a permit, why would that be strange?
Officer Smith never mentions in the report that Zimmerman told him he had a permit.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:49 AM
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These are two different news agencies. IMO also, One got called out because the editing was obvious. The other one didn't because the public doesn't have any real proof of GZ'a injuries to call foul on that pic.
I think if was an actual alteration, where someone painted red on his head or a bruise of some sort and then it turns out he never had any injury back there, the credibility of that news agency (ABC?) goes down the drain, forever. That's a lot of money at stake for someone to alter a photo so they can 'push' the story a certain way.

Why can't it just be acknowledged that he may have a bruise back there instead of conspiracy theorying that a major news organization doctored the image? Just because there may have been a fight and he got injured in a fight doesn't necessarily mean he was justified in shooting.
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These are two different news agencies. IMO also, One got called out because the editing was obvious. The other one didn't because the public doesn't have any real proof of GZ'a injuries to call foul on that pic.
Also, I'm pretty sure that the photo was presented as an "enhanced" image, whereas the 911 edit was presented as fact.

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Officer Smith never mentions in the report that Zimmerman told him he had a permit.
It should have been in the report, but that does not mean he was not asked and in all likelyhood produced his permit.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:51 AM
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Officer Smith never mentions in the report that Zimmerman told him he had a permit.
Officer smith didn't mention a lot of things in his report it seems. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:52 AM
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It should have been in the report, but that does not mean he was not asked and in all likelyhood produced his permit.
He wouldn't have to ask him if he already knew.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:53 AM
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I think if was an actual alteration, where someone painted red on his head or a bruise of some sort and then it turns out he never had any injury back there, the credibility of that news agency (ABC?) goes down the drain, forever. That's a lot of money at stake for someone to alter a photo so they can 'push' the story a certain way.

Why can't it just be acknowledged that he may have a bruise back there instead of conspiracy theorying that a major news organization doctored the image? Just because there may have been a fight and he got injured in a fight doesn't necessarily mean he was justified in shooting.
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Why can't it be acknowledged that there's seriously something wrong with that picture?

Unless we should just ignore all of that or try to say that the police officer really looks like that?
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Whom created these enhanced videos? Wasn't it the MSM?
It began with this company: http://www.forensicprotection.com/Zimmerman.html

I cannot, of course, account for its veracity. I am quite certain though any defense attorney worth his salt will have an independent lab enhance images in preparation for trial as well as further documenting any sustained injuries.

If they (the defense) rely solely on this to prove Zimmerman's injuries I think it will be very telling. JMO
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:54 AM
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I won't be shocked to find that GZ had some injuries. That happens when someone instigates a confrontation and they get bested. ((shrugs)). What I don't believe is the severity of the injuries as family and friends of GZ claim.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:54 AM
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He wouldn't have to ask him if he already knew.
Not sure what your getting at. Do you mean he know Zimmerman before this night and that he already new Zimmerman had a carry permit?
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:54 AM
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Officer smith didn't mention a lot of things in his report it seems. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Why would he leave out a statement like that if George made it?
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:56 AM
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Also, I'm pretty sure that the photo was presented as an "enhanced" image, whereas the 911 edit was presented as fact.

JMO, OMO, and
And who can dispute that "enhanced" image? No one knows the real extent of GZ's injuries to say it's accurate or not. IMO, it was irresponsible to put that picture out there.
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Not sure what your getting at. Do you mean he know Zimmerman before this night and that he already new Zimmerman had a carry permit?
I am thinking that is the case. I am just trying to put some thoughts together.
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Why can't it be acknowledged that there's seriously something wrong with that picture?

Unless we're going to ignore all of that or try to say that the police officer really looks like that?
The photo is enhanced but I'm leaning to there at least being a mark or bruise of some sort back there because a) it shows in the enhanced photo and b) the officers attention was drawn to the back of his head in the beginning of the video.

How do red streaks suddenly appear out of nowhere and only on one side and at a specific spot of his head? It should be all over his head if it's just a question of color saturation.
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It should have been in the report, but that does not mean he was not asked and in all likelyhood produced his permit.
Exactly~ I think most people that have CW permits carry the permit in their billfold.
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Why would he leave out a statement like that if George made it?
IDK. I question the whole report as far of it's accuracy.
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You can't be arrested for a concealed firearm if you have a permit.

Makes no sense.

Whether GZ told LE about that night or they looked into it, it does not matter.

He had a permit. He broke no laws by carrying a gun.
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Officer smith didn't mention a lot of things in his report it seems. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.
I think Officer Smith cherry picked things he put in that report to make Zimmerman look innocent. IMO
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