MI MI - James Riddle Hoffa, 62, Bloomfield Hills, 30 July 1975

[Snoopster]

Some remains were found this week in the Lower Peninsula, MI, and identified as having been from a few decades ago. When I checked the Doe Network for potential matches, lo and behold, up popped Jimmy Hoffa. While I don't believe that this recent discovery up in Oscada is JH, it caused me to do a search on WS. I couldn't find a thread for Jimmy! Say what?

I suppose that this thread belongs in the cold case threads, but I thought it made sense to start if off here. So, WS'ers, let's kick it off.

First, here is JH's Doe Network page:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2106dmmi.html

From Wikipedia:

Jimmy Hoffa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jimmy Hoffa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jimmy Hoffa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hoffa was last seen in late July 1975, outside the Machus Red Fox, a suburban Detroit restaurant.

[Snoopster]

From the Wikipedia link above:

Hoffa disappeared at, or sometime after, 2:45 pm on July 30, 1975, from the parking lot of the Machus Red Fox Restaurant in Bloomfield Township, an affluent suburb of Detroit. According to what he had told others, he believed he was to meet there with two Mafia leaders—Anthony Giacalone and Anthony Provenzano.[19] Provenzano was also a union leader with the Teamsters in New Jersey, and had earlier been quite close to Hoffa. Provenzano was a national vice-president with IBT from 1961, Hoffa's second term as Teamsters' president.[14]

When Hoffa did not return home that evening, his wife reported him missing. Police found Hoffa's car at the restaurant but no sign of Hoffa himself or any indication of what happened to him. Extensive investigations into the disappearance began immediately, and continued over the next several years by several law enforcement groups, including the FBI. However, the investigations did not conclusively determine Hoffa's fate. For their part, Giacalone and Provenzano were found not to have been near the restaurant that afternoon, and each denied they had scheduled a meeting with Hoffa.[20]

Hoffa was declared legally dead in 1982, on the seventh anniversary of his disappearance, when he would have been aged 69

[wfgodot]

If I had a dollar for every different place I remember hearing that Hoffa was buried or disposed of over the years, I'd at least probably have $25-30. While it's not much money, that is lots of different places!

Good thread, rich in possibilities for discussion.

[Snoopster]

Originally Posted by wfgodot

If I had a dollar for every different place I remember hearing that Hoffa was buried or disposed of over the years, I'd at least probably have $25-30. While it's not much money, that is lots of different places!

Good thread, rich in possibilities of discussion.

Well, for one of those dollars, wfgodot, I'll go straight to one of your 'favorite' sources...the Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Motors-HQ.html

But now, nearly four decades after Hoffa vanished, his driver has claimed he knows where he is buried – and how he got there.

Marvin Elkind said Hoffa was killed by a mob enforcer and buried in the foundations of the towering General Motors’ HQ in Detroit, Michigan. <snip>

Tony Jack nodded toward the tower’s base and said, ‘Say good morning to Jimmy Hoffa, boys’, Mr Elkind alleges in The Weasel: A Double Life in the Mob by Adrian Humphreys.

He also describes the rush to build the Renaissance Center following the disappearance of Hoffa – and claims the body was buried in wet cement.

Should we start digging?? (no offense meant to JH's family, BTW.)

[LotsaLatte]

I had a job that required interaction/negotiations with Teamster's U. in Detroit. This was a longggggggg time ago. Jimmy's disappearance was brought up and the response was "He'll never be found." End of discussion and nobody ever talked about it again. I'll be surprised if he is ever found. Would be interesting though.

[wfgodot]

Originally Posted by Snoopster

Well, for one of those dollars, wfgodot, I'll go straight to one of your 'favorite' sources...the Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Motors-HQ.html

Should we start digging?? (no offense meant to JH's family, BTW.)

Yes! "If it's in the Daily Mail, it MUST be true!" lolol.

I think the favorite place - heard this repeated often - was that Hoffa had been buried in a concrete abutment of some sort in New Jersey at the Meadowlands, where the NY Giants played many seasons - can't remember the corner of which end zone he was supposed to be.

I think it's been torn down now as they've moved to a new place. I guess Jimmy didn't pop up out of the rubble and make himself known while the wrecking ball was tearing the place apart.

[Sleuthster]

I always thought the mafia preferred the desert and cornfield burial plots?

[wfgodot]

The Kansas City branch of organized crime is said to have made very good use of the deep abandoned mine shafts here in northeast OK. Also the strip pits here and just across the border in southeast KS.