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Old 05-07-2012, 04:35 PM
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I am sorry if I did ...

Really touchy on the topic ...
Totally understand.
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:36 PM
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RS says that:

Rafferty laughing and joking with his lawyers today...thinks he may be doing it thinking he will soon be a free man

jmo Hope the Jury paid close attention
http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/2.../19727211.html
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:37 PM
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I have been raped Tahorn.

I'm going to stick by my statement that it is not always about power and control.
First of all I would like to say I am sorry for what you went through, trust me I understand, I too am a survivor.

However I do understand your comment.
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:38 PM
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Speaking of the back seat, noticed that Derstine conveniently skipped over that entirely.

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Derstine said McClintic lied when she said there was a back seat in the car on April 8 [via Twitter]
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Derstine said there was no evidence there was a back seat in the car on April 8 [via Twitter]
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Derstine turns to the missing back seat of Rafferty's car. He notes Rafferty's neighbors tesitified that he took the seat out in late March [via Twitter]
Let's see what the Crown has to say about this tomorrow, but maybe it's not even important.
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I was thinking about all the information that we know is out there, but the crown or defence didn't mention and i was sure it would come out.

Right after TLM was arrested and charged with Tori's murder, TLM's mom stated to reporters that TLM did know Tori and that there was much more to the story, and would write a book about it .

the follow up interviews with MR after being charged with these crimes and his denial or versions of events when talking with LE ( only one we heard was the initial conversation at his house when he was just being questioned.

The white jacket and the dna evidence tied to it

so much more, I do hope that one of the major news stations releases all of the evidence that we did not see and anything further on TLM. There is so many questions in this case, both for and against MR
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:43 PM
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cp24 brief interview with MTR's mother;
She said: My son is innocent. This could happen to every man. TML has ruined our life. Hopes that justice will be served and her son will be free.
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:44 PM
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Michael Rafferty is “not guilty and it hurts like hell. It hurts,” his mother told reporters outside London court Monday.

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http://psychcentral.com/lib/2006/wha...ual-addiction/

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Sexual addiction is best described as a progressive intimacy disorder characterized by compulsive sexual thoughts and acts. Like all addictions, its negative impact on the addict and on family members increases as the disorder progresses. Over time, the addict usually has to intensify the addictive behavior to achieve the same results.

For some sex addicts, behavior does not progress beyond compulsive masturbation or the extensive use of pornography or phone or computer sex services. For others, addiction can involve illegal activities such as exhibitionism, voyeurism, obscene phone calls, child molestation or rape.
I'm not saying that MTR is a sex addict, but I definitely think that it is a possibility. :Moo:
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:45 PM
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well she said she killed her so she had to there right? Wait, she lies all the time.....Maybe MTR dropped her off and he took her?
Throw out his statement completely ... Isn't much left ...
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:46 PM
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No.


Let's see what the Crown has to say about this tomorrow, but maybe it's not even important.
Thanks JayFriend...I must have missed that. I wonder why he didn't mention the witness who said it was out a month before Easter. Or the one who said it was in Mar 23rd?

Or where the babysat child was sitting?

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Old 05-07-2012, 04:51 PM
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cp24 brief interview with MTR's mother;
She said: My son is innocent. This could happen to every man. TML has ruined our life. Hopes that justice will be served and her son will be free.
She thinks her son deserves to go free? Wow.

MOO
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Except ........

If a man has a sexual desire for a child.....it is automatically rape. Sooo in that case the rape IS about deviant sex. MOO
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:53 PM
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bbm: I completely disagree with what I bolded... We see it case after case after case again. Perpetrators are cunning and know what to say to get what they want.



eta: to name a recent case: Ryan Brunn took a picture of little Jorelys Rivera's roller skate (that he stole) and told her he had found it... and she walked off with him to a vacant apartment where she was raped, murdered, and then dumped into a trash compactor.

Yes. it happens. And yes, kids are happily lured away...
A child could be street proofed. But IF a predator wants a child...it could be that one time YOU ask your child to go and and get something out of the car for you etc. It is that quick. MOO
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:55 PM
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She thinks her son deserves to go free? Wow.

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oh dear. JMO
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well IMO Dirk put on a very good defence today...he got his points across without any padding..he discredited the actual murderer and kidnapper.. I didn't expect any rabbits pulled from a hat or any actual video's of the crime..he admitted his client was a "cad" and maybe a little oversexed, as someone his age would be.....his defence was what I expected and not sure why anyone would be upset over it especially if they didn't believe him or his client.. how it sits with the jury remains to be seen but whatever they decide I will accept...if it is not the outcome that I would like to see...then.."so be it"...I will just think an injustice has been served and will move on...I would like the sentence to fit the crime and all I can see so far is that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and he did help to cover it up...that in itself deserves some form of punishment...JMO JMO JMO
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cp24 brief interview with MTR's mother;
She said: My son is innocent. This could happen to every man. TML has ruined our life. Hopes that justice will be served and her son will be free.
yeah OK Mom...this trial is all because of TLM ruining your life???

...what about the life of precious lil 8 yr old Tori Stafford??

I'm Praying for JUSTICE too----> for the brutal MURDER of Tori Stafford and in my justice Rafferty will remain behind bars

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Old 05-07-2012, 04:56 PM
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Mother of accused Tori Stafford killer Michael Rafferty says her son is innocent

She kept a relatively low profile during the investigation and was accompanied Monday by her partner, David Riddell.

When asked about how she thought the case was going for Rafferty, she replied: “I think he’s got a good lawyer.”





http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05...n-is-innocent/
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She thinks her son deserves to go free? Wow.

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It's good to finally see a picture of the mother behind the man accused of kidnapping, raping and murdering a child.
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well IMO Dirk put on a very good defence today...he got his points across without any padding..he discredited the actual murderer and kidnapper.. I didn't expect any rabbits pulled from a hat or any actual video's of the crime..he admitted his client was a "cad" and maybe a little oversexed, as someone his age would be.....his defence was what I expected and not sure why anyone would be upset over it especially if they didn't believe him or his client.. how it sits with the jury remains to be seen but whatever they decide I will accept...if it is not the outcome that I would like to see...then.."so be it"...I will just think an injustice has been served and will move on...I would like the sentence to fit the crime and all I can see so far is that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and he did help to cover it up...that in itself deserves some form of punishment...JMO JMO JMO
So you've already decided that if he is found guilty that an injustice will have been served? <modsnip>.
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Speaking of the back seat, noticed that Derstine conveniently skipped over that entirely.

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he did make some mention of it...JMO
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"Defence lawyer Dirk Derstine says the Crown's case against his client Michael Rafferty hinges on "unbelievable" testimony from Terri- Lynne McClintic and the rest of the evidence is "circumstantial."

What's he suggesting ... that circumstantial evidence doesn't count?
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So you've already decided that if he is found guilty that an injustice will have been served? <modsnip>.


just to clarify...<modsnip>...I do not think he kidnapped...raped...or murdered TS....I do believe he helped with the coverup and the disposal and of course hid those facts from LE until he was arrested...I do not know if at that time he related this to LE because it has not been mentioned...


respectfully....JMO JMO...

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yeah OK Mom...this trial is all because of TLM ruining your life???

...what about the life of precious lil 8 yr old Tori Stafford??

I'm Praying for JUSTICE too----> for the brutal MURDER of Tori Stafford and in my justice Rafferty will remain behind bars

jmo
I cannot even bring myself to comment on his mother...I probably would be banned from here

I will say this: I am a mother to an 8 yr old son. I will start praying harder that I am raising him to be of good morals & judgement. I hope he's of good character & has the strength to never be duped by the likes of TLM.

Good grief!! I feel like I'm sitting on my hands here & biting my tongue like never before!
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"He suggested that his client would never have gone into a Home Depot to purchase a hammer to murder Tori Stafford since he knew there were tools in the car."

Not true. He wanted to be sure that the murder weapon could not be traced to him, which is why he didn't use his own hammer and when he purchased a new one for the murder, he made sure that it was not in his hometown of Woodstock.

"He says Rafferty's connection to Mount Forest is not relevant since any rural area could have been used for the crime."

The location is relevant since he drove to that secluded location - and he was familiar with that location through previous work contracts.

MR semen and Victoria's blood got mixed together during clean up? What was he doing during clean up for that to happen?

ref: http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/r.../19725376.html

I'm not buying it.
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