Websleuths
Go Back   Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community > Missing!! > Missing Forum Discussion

Notices

Missing Forum Discussion This is the place for case discussion and opinion regarding those who are missing.


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-16-2012, 11:46 PM
Salem's Avatar
Salem Salem is offline
WS Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 27,315
AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #19

Please continue here.

Please remember TOS.

Please do not discuss the minor children in an accusatory nature. They are victims of this situation and should be treated as such, unless LE tells us differently.

Please remember that theories and speculation are welcome, but they must be based in reality. ALSO - if you don't happen to agree with a theory, that's fine, BUT don't be condescending or tell those who are kicking the theory around, how to post.

Please be respectful and civil to each other and the MODS - or TOs will be issued. If you have a question about moderation, what is okay to post, or TOS, PM a mod. They will help you. You may always pm me or any of the mods you are comfortable with. We will get an answer for you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bessie View Post
TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) - Tucson police are searching for a 6-year-old girl who went missing from her home on the city's east side.

Isabel Mercedes Celis was last seen late Friday and discovered to be missing at about 8 a.m. Saturday.

Sgt. Maria Hawke says police are searching the area around East Broadway Boulevard and Craycroft Road using street patrols, canines, detectives and a helicopter.

She's described as just under 4-feet-tall and weighing 44 pounds, with brown hair and hazel eyes.

Snipped: http://www.kswt.com/story/17650000/t...-year-old-girl

Previous Threads:

Thread 1
Thread 2
Thread 3
Thread 4
Thread 5
Thread 6
Thread 7
Thread 8
Thread 9
Thread 10
Thread 11
Thread 12
Thread #13
Thread #14
Thread #15
Thread #16

Thread #17

Thread #18



Scanner Threads:

Scanner Thread 1
Scanner Thread 2
Scanner Thread 3 Active

REMEMBER: Anything posted in the scanner thread must stay in the scanner thread.

Full news coverage:http://www.kvoa.com/full-coverage/finding-isabel/

Local Media:
http://www.kgun9.com/
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/categor...missing-isabel
http://www.kvoa.com/full-coverage/finding-isabel/
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/subindex/news/local/tucson
http://azstarnet.com/

Find Isabel Celis Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/FindIsabelCelis
new website for Isabel Celis:http://bringisahome.com/
__________________
"If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." George S. Patton, Jr.

Last edited by Salem; 05-21-2012 at 11:20 PM.
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Salem For This Useful Post:
  #2  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:18 PM
Salem's Avatar
Salem Salem is offline
WS Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 27,315
AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #19

Please continue here.

Salem
__________________
"If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." George S. Patton, Jr.
The Following 15 Users Say Thank You to Salem For This Useful Post:
  #3  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:23 PM
prima.facie's Avatar
prima.facie prima.facie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,189
dang....in regards to the websites down..

lmao.....surprised we didnt 503 it !
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to prima.facie For This Useful Post:
  #4  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:25 PM
simlyme's Avatar
simlyme simlyme is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: somewhere out there
Posts: 412
Quote:
Originally Posted by prima.facie View Post
dang....in regards to the websites down..

lmao.....surprised we didnt 503 it !
That's funny, but what is a 503 ?
__________________
Liars, even when they speak the truth, are not believed. Aristotle 384-322 B.C.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...oGrg-EhoRxhtTA
The Following User Says Thank You to simlyme For This Useful Post:
  #5  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:26 PM
gliving gliving is offline
Just the facts, ma'am
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,015
LOL both websites went down and suddenly thread #18 closed without warning.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to gliving For This Useful Post:
  #6  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:27 PM
cluciano63's Avatar
cluciano63 cluciano63 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 32,734
I wonder if LE is still hoping someone from the neighborhood will come forward saying they saw a vehicle leaving the home that night, sometime after midnight...
__________________
Just my opinion, of course.
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to cluciano63 For This Useful Post:
  #7  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:28 PM
simlyme's Avatar
simlyme simlyme is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: somewhere out there
Posts: 412
Quote:
Originally Posted by gliving View Post
LOL both websites went down and suddenly thread #18 closed without warning.
The sites are back up,but, everyone forgot to move over
__________________
Liars, even when they speak the truth, are not believed. Aristotle 384-322 B.C.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...oGrg-EhoRxhtTA
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to simlyme For This Useful Post:
  #8  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:28 PM
prima.facie's Avatar
prima.facie prima.facie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,189
Quote:
Originally Posted by simlyme View Post
That's funny, but what is a 503 ?

a DOS attack....when too many people try and access a site and it crashes im sure we were close to that! usually this is done on purpose to bring sites down...but it can happen innocently too. lol

better explained here lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to prima.facie For This Useful Post:
  #9  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:31 PM
simlyme's Avatar
simlyme simlyme is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: somewhere out there
Posts: 412
Quote:
Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
I wonder if LE is still hoping someone from the neighborhood will come forward saying they saw a vehicle leaving the home that night, sometime after midnight...
Uhmmmm, maybe,one of the boys heard someone leave that night??? Just an idea
__________________
Liars, even when they speak the truth, are not believed. Aristotle 384-322 B.C.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...oGrg-EhoRxhtTA
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to simlyme For This Useful Post:
  #10  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:41 PM
cluciano63's Avatar
cluciano63 cluciano63 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 32,734
Quote:
Originally Posted by simlyme View Post
Uhmmmm, maybe,one of the boys heard someone leave that night??? Just an idea
That is possible, and LE would want some sort of back-up, if so.
__________________
Just my opinion, of course.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to cluciano63 For This Useful Post:
  #11  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:50 PM
StrayKat StrayKat is offline
Meowww
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,108
If there were any vehicles moving about around her house they have probably got it on video. I wonder if there are gangs down there?

That neighbors reporting has me at someone took her out of that window.

JMO
The Following User Says Thank You to StrayKat For This Useful Post:
  #12  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:53 PM
mahoolin's Avatar
mahoolin mahoolin is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 557
copying from #18
Quote:
Originally Posted by mahoolin View Post
---not related to presser, but do we know if it was common for RC to go into work early? Or was this a "once in a blue moon" thing? Another star in perfect/imperfect alignment that night/morning?

I searched but couldn't find anything.
TIA

It might just be me, but I always figured the person who said she was "very early" just meant that it was early in the morning, not necessarily that she was extremely or unusually early to work, but that was just my take...that 7am is early in the morning. JMO

been looking again for article that I interpreted that she went in earlier than usual by a co-worker. I thought that if her regular shift was 7 it wouldn't have been called "early", but just she went in for her 7am shift - ?

funny how one little word can be interpreted so many ways.

-early as in early in the morning (depending on body clock)
-early (for her) as in not late
-early as in starting workday before usual shift started


oh well, just a thought.

lol, nite all - I have to get up at 4:45 am tomorrow morning-my usual time - not early -

__________________
“A person's a person, no matter how small.”

“Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not.”

“If you want to catch beasts you don't see every day, you have to go places quite out of the way,
You have to go places no others can get to.
You have to get cold and you have to get wet, too.” ― Dr. Seuss
The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to mahoolin For This Useful Post:
  #13  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:55 PM
butterfly1978's Avatar
butterfly1978 butterfly1978 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,794
I have seen way to many cases just like this one.... This case is sadly gone cold. There is no new info to sleuth, no more press confrences, in a few weeks this thread will have hardly any discussions and few visitors ):
__________________
JUSTICE IS COMING HALEIGH AND CAYLEE

YOU GOT TO LOVE JUDGE STRICKLAND
At it's core, the defense counsel's motion accuses the undersigned of being a "self aggrandizing media hound". Indeed. The irony is rich.

Motion granted.

Stan Strickland
Circuit Judge
The Following 15 Users Say Thank You to butterfly1978 For This Useful Post:
  #14  
Old 05-21-2012, 11:56 PM
johnQpublic johnQpublic is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 313
You know you watch enough of RC videos and watch her eyes closely when she speaks and it's either she naturally always moves her eyes like crazy or she is surely hiding something, knows something or boldly spinning a lie.
The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to johnQpublic For This Useful Post:
  #15  
Old 05-22-2012, 12:17 AM
Pensfan Pensfan is offline
On Time Out
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,333
Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly1978 View Post
I have seen way to many cases just like this one.... This case is sadly gone cold. There is no new info to sleuth, no more press confrences, in a few weeks this thread will have hardly any discussions and few visitors ):
.........and when the family doesn't camp out at the police station eagerly awaiting any news, many of the detectives will be assigned another case. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and when the parent is a suspect, they don't squeak.
The Following 16 Users Say Thank You to Pensfan For This Useful Post:
  #16  
Old 05-22-2012, 12:24 AM
Dee10's Avatar
Dee10 Dee10 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,710
If anyone is interested this is the video of the co-worker talking about RC coming in early as well as that Isa usually slept with the boys, but not that night.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/miss...celis-16208983

Edited ~ To correct video
__________________


Last edited by Dee10; 05-22-2012 at 01:15 AM.
The Following 18 Users Say Thank You to Dee10 For This Useful Post:
  #17  
Old 05-22-2012, 12:27 AM
Mustang Sally's Avatar
Mustang Sally Mustang Sally is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: North Florida
Posts: 688
well I am finally caught up.....the 78 Page thread was unbelievable.

I have typed out two posts that have gone poof....just like the two posts that I have lost..poof

I have followed so many children who have gone poof....first Caylee, then HaLeigh Cummings, Kyron Horman, Hailey Dunn, Aliayah Lunsford, Lisa Irving, Sky Metalwala, Bianca Jones, Ayla Reynolds, Sierra LaMar and now Isabel. I am sure that there are many more that we do not follow on WS.

What is happening in these family units to cause these babies and children to just drop off the face of the earth?

Why does this keep happening over and over?

Dear God...Please bring All The Missing Babies and Children Home To Those Who Love Them!
__________________
I do not "Obsess".....I just think "Intensely"
  #18  
Old 05-22-2012, 12:43 AM
winterrose's Avatar
winterrose winterrose is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,333
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnQpublic View Post
You know you watch enough of RC videos and watch her eyes closely when she speaks and it's either she naturally always moves her eyes like crazy or she is surely hiding something, knows something or boldly spinning a lie.
Interesting, I was watching the video of the vigil. It makes me wonder if she had planned what she was going to say about SC. Maybe she was going over it in her head trying to remember the right words she had planned as she was saying them to the reporters.

My husband's a great father, the kid.., my husband loves those boys, loves my daughter, is a great husband, a great um, a great hu..., a great father to the boys and to Isabel and you know at the end of the stor.., at the end of the day, when isabel comes home, everybody's answers, everybody's questions will be answered.
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to winterrose For This Useful Post:
  #19  
Old 05-22-2012, 12:48 AM
SweetT's Avatar
SweetT SweetT is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,075
Is it possible that they are letting Sergio be a sitting duck? Just an idea. Since he is now publicly ALONE at the house, no contact with the other children etc..and with Becky saying once Isa is home all questions will be answered. I dont know just something that came to mind.
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to SweetT For This Useful Post:
  #20  
Old 05-22-2012, 12:59 AM
winterrose's Avatar
winterrose winterrose is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,333
Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetT View Post
Is it possible that they are letting Sergio be a sitting duck? Just an idea. Since he is now publicly ALONE at the house, no contact with the other children etc..and with Becky saying once Isa is home all questions will be answered. I dont know just something that came to mind.
I have thought about that, he's an actor and to get into theatre, you have to be able to act, goodness. So why is his acting so poor in interviews and on that 911, nonchalant, detached, etc? When you tell someone to get their butt home, it's because they're in trouble and "she's freaking out", in that tone, means she's exaggerating. If he's done nothing wrong, he could have thought RC hid Isa for whatever reason. The CPS agreement and LE holding evidence so tight from the investigation and the search warrant, in the house,makes me think he has some connection to her disappearance, in one form or another.

Editing...he's an opera singer, in plays in a theatre, it's people own opinion if that's an actor or not.

Last edited by winterrose; 05-22-2012 at 02:08 AM.
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to winterrose For This Useful Post:
  #21  
Old 05-22-2012, 01:03 AM
SweetT's Avatar
SweetT SweetT is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,075
Quote:
Originally Posted by winterrose View Post
I have thought about that, he's an actor and to get into theatre, you have to be able to act, goodness. So why is his acting so poor in interviews and on that 911, nonchalant, detached, etc? When you tell someone to get their butt home, it's because they're in trouble and "she's freaking out", in that tone, means she's exaggerating. If he's done nothing wrong, he could have thought RC hid Isa for whatever reason. The CPS agreement and LE holding evidence so tight from the investigation and the search warrant, in the house,makes me think he has some connection to her disappearance, in one form or another.
Well just because he is in acting and theatre doesn't mean he was real good at it or anything cause I think his singing is what got him there. LOL! I do also agree that it is possible that whatever happened to ISA is somehow connected to him or someone he knows, its possible..which is why I wonder if he isn't being used as a decoy.
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to SweetT For This Useful Post:
  #22  
Old 05-22-2012, 01:08 AM
GutFeeling!'s Avatar
GutFeeling! GutFeeling! is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,347
When did he become an actor? I thought he was an opera singer
__________________
^^^^ everything up there is Moo

I Still Call Australia Home
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to GutFeeling! For This Useful Post:
  #23  
Old 05-22-2012, 01:22 AM
SweetT's Avatar
SweetT SweetT is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,075
I think the acting just comes from the opera singing and doing the theatrical stuff like plays and also singing.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to SweetT For This Useful Post:
  #24  
Old 05-22-2012, 01:22 AM
GutFeeling!'s Avatar
GutFeeling! GutFeeling! is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,347
With all due respect it was your post that said he was an actor that got into theater, and that he did a poor acting job in interviews and the 911 call.

Maybe he wasn't acting, maybe is is a grief stricken parent who has a child missing. There is no class on how to behave when your child goes missing, and as many have said on here - when they have had similar things happen they have acted like fools (ok maybe not fools but when they look back they realise they were not themselves)
__________________
^^^^ everything up there is Moo

I Still Call Australia Home
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to GutFeeling! For This Useful Post:
  #25  
Old 05-22-2012, 01:23 AM
GutFeeling!'s Avatar
GutFeeling! GutFeeling! is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,347
Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetT View Post
I think the acting just comes from the opera singing and doing the theatrical stuff like plays and also singing.
How the heck do you know he is acting?
__________________
^^^^ everything up there is Moo

I Still Call Australia Home
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to GutFeeling! For This Useful Post:
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AZ AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #11 bessie Missing Forum Discussion 1274 05-08-2012 09:56 AM
AZ AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #10 bessie Missing Forum Discussion 1153 05-04-2012 06:35 PM
AZ AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #9 KaylynnCouture Missing Forum Discussion 1191 05-03-2012 12:39 AM
AZ AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #8 KaylynnCouture Missing Forum Discussion 1013 05-01-2012 08:49 AM
AZ AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #2 KaylynnCouture Missing Forum Discussion 618 04-24-2012 02:36 PM


© Copyright Websleuths 1999-2012 New To Site? Need Help?
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:46 AM.

Advertisements

Pre-Order Imperfect Justice: Prosecuting Casey Anthony today!