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Darlie Routier Darlie Routier is on death row, convicted of murdering her two sons. Darlie claims that an intruder attacked her and the boys and is responsible. Many feel Darlie deserves a new trial. Discuss it here.


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Old 05-18-2005, 04:15 PM
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Would it explain why she invited the news crew to film her little romp at the gravesite instead of inviting them to film the memorial service?

I think that was the more approiate gathering. Just my opinion though and nothing more.
She didn't want people filming her during a serious service. That is my take on it, anyway. She put on a show for the cameras at the birthday party. She could handle that emotionally, but not the memorial service. I am not sure that was a deliberate manipulation for ill-begotten motives or not. It could mean that she just wasn't comfortable being observed when she was not in control. At that time, I don't think she thought she was even a suspect, so it is possible that she didn't consider that anyone would question her grief. I wonder though...does anyone know what the press was printing about her at that time? It seems to me that they might have been questioning her guilt while the police were trying to reassure her they did not believe such suspicions, hoping over confidence would do her in. I don't think I have seen the old articles about the case in the early days.
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Old 05-18-2005, 04:16 PM
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Yes, and so is her silly string party. It's a perfect example of HPD.
Okay, You love doing this to me. What is HPD? Some kind of disorder, I guess, but which one???????
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Old 05-19-2005, 08:12 AM
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Okay, You love doing this to me. What is HPD? Some kind of disorder, I guess, but which one???????
LOl, it's Histrionic Personality Disorder.
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Old 05-20-2005, 10:10 AM
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Usually when a person has a serious personality disorder of a Cluster type B, they have an additional underlying serious personality disorder also.

Do you know that NPD is a pathology for a Sociopath.

I would guess that Darlie has HPD and NDP.
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Old 05-20-2005, 10:33 AM
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Usually when a person has a serious personality disorder of a Cluster type B, they have an additional underlying serious personality disorder also.

Do you know that NPD is a pathology for a Sociopath.

I would guess that Darlie has HPD and NDP.
NPD and HPD appear to go hand in hand to me anyway. What do you think?
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Old 05-20-2005, 12:29 PM
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I would say, that she has both. Your right, they usually are both underlying pathology.

As soon as I read the "rape" story, I immediately thought HDP. Then everything else confirmed it. You know trashy, flashy, blonde, etc.

I am pretty sure that Darin shares NPD with Darlie. That is why he "defends" her. Married her.....stayed with her.....

Both personality disorders are indicative of a false human being. All fake.....
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Old 05-20-2005, 12:57 PM
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I would say, that she has both. Your right, they usually are both underlying pathology.

As soon as I read the "rape" story, I immediately thought HDP. Then everything else confirmed it. You know trashy, flashy, blonde, etc.

I am pretty sure that Darin shares NPD with Darlie. That is why he "defends" her. Married her.....stayed with her.....

Both personality disorders are indicative of a false human being. All fake.....
I'm no expert on it, but it did seem to be the "Darlie & Darin Show" whenever they showed up someplace! Center of attention doesn't begin to describe it. I guess that's why it infuriates me even more when they try to tell us that "Darlie was the intended target." LOL Its ALLLLLLL about her. For all that this/these intruder(s) had to go through to pull this off, they/he must have been the luckiest SOB on earth.
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Old 05-20-2005, 01:24 PM
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I agree with both diagnosis. Darlie is all about Darlie (Darlie's hair, Darlie's fake tan, Darlie's sleep, Darlie's clothes). I read that Darlie went to sleep downstairs because of the baby's crying and moving kept her up all night (that's called being a mother sweetie!!) yet she slept through the stabbing of her sons sleeping a foot or so away from her. I also guess the the intruder walked into the house and took a knife went back outside and cut the screen then walked back in to the house and put the knife back in the drawer (they found fibers on a kitchen knife that matched the screen). Sure! Darlie did it. No question in my mind!


JMO though!
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Old 05-20-2005, 02:29 PM
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I agree with both diagnosis. Darlie is all about Darlie (Darlie's hair, Darlie's fake tan, Darlie's sleep, Darlie's clothes). I read that Darlie went to sleep downstairs because of the baby's crying and moving kept her up all night (that's called being a mother sweetie!!) yet she slept through the stabbing of her sons sleeping a foot or so away from her. I also guess the the intruder walked into the house and took a knife went back outside and cut the screen then walked back in to the house and put the knife back in the drawer (they found fibers on a kitchen knife that matched the screen). Sure! Darlie did it. No question in my mind!


JMO though!
That's a main problem with her entire story, she can't sleep because the baby moves around and yet she claims to have slept thru her son's murders and her own self being cut.
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Old 05-20-2005, 02:32 PM
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Hmm, good find Cami.
I think Darlie showed most of these characteristcs at one time or another.
Her little "Rape" scene years before at the party is a good example.
I must have missed something what "rape scene" are you referring to?
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Old 05-20-2005, 03:33 PM
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I must have missed something what "rape scene" are you referring to?

Someone will probably have to refresh my memory, but:
when Darin graduated from high school, his mother threw him a party at home. Darlie wasn't the center of attetntion and want to leave. Darin did't want to leave, so Darlie decided to "walk home." Darlie comes back to the party a short time later and tells everyone about the alleged "rape," thus turning the attention back on to herself ( where it beloned ). Obviously,the party was over and Darlie got what she wanted -Darin -- all to herself.
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:23 PM
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I am pretty sure that Darin shares NPD with Darlie. That is why he "defends" her. Married her.....stayed with her.....
I think it is a bit simpler than that. He is up to his eyeballs in guilt right along with her. What role he played exactly is still a question, but I don't think any innocent father would defend her this long and this faithfully for any reason other than that. But I do agree that they both probably share personality disorders. That wouldn't be a surprise either.
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:27 PM
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That's a main problem with her entire story, she can't sleep because the baby moves around and yet she claims to have slept thru her son's murders and her own self being cut.
No, she only claimed that at first. By the time the trial rolled around they had discovered that she was really suffering from traumatic amnesia and that is why she didn't remember waking up during the attacks on the children. Still no explanation for why they found no blood spatter or cast offs on the sofa; or why they found no knife cuts on the sofa, but give them time (Darlie and Darin that is) they will come up with something eventually.
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:28 PM
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Someone will probably have to refresh my memory, but:
when Darin graduated from high school, his mother threw him a party at home. Darlie wasn't the center of attetntion and want to leave. Darin did't want to leave, so Darlie decided to "walk home." Darlie comes back to the party a short time later and tells everyone about the alleged "rape," thus turning the attention back on to herself ( where it beloned ). Obviously,the party was over and Darlie got what she wanted -Darin -- all to herself.
Yep, that is it, alright!
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:30 PM
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I beg to differ.. I believe a father would defend the mother more than the mother would defend the father. That's how I have always felt about the Ramsey's. Though I am sure it's reversed in some cases. I think Darlie was a "prize" to Darin. The beautiful blonde wife that he some how snagged. She was more attractive than he. I don't know if he believes that she didn't kill his boys or that he is just defending her because he doesn't want to lose her. He may just be in complete denial ala Peterson. I think some people are in complete denial of what their spouse or family member is capable of. It would take some good hard proven evidence for me to ever believe that my husband or child was capable of murdering someone. What is the current status of their "marriage" did he file for divorce?
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:32 PM
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No, she only claimed that at first. By the time the trial rolled around they had discovered that she was really suffering from traumatic amnesia and that is why she didn't remember waking up during the attacks on the children. Still no explanation for why they found no blood spatter or cast offs on the sofa; or why they found no knife cuts on the sofa, but give them time (Darlie and Darin that is) they will come up with something eventually.


I don't believe that for a minute. Darlie is full o crap. She knew what was going on because she was the one doing it. JMO of course!
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:40 PM
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Darlie's TA

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I don't believe that for a minute. Darlie is full o crap. She knew what was going on because she was the one doing it. JMO of course!
Isn't it amazing that some people really do believe it? LOL! I mean, even if it were plausible that she had TA, would she have it for nearly ten years now???
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:56 PM
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Routier vs Ramsey

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I beg to differ.. I believe a father would defend the mother more than the mother would defend the father. That's how I have always felt about the Ramsey's. Though I am sure it's reversed in some cases. I think Darlie was a "prize" to Darin. The beautiful blonde wife that he some how snagged. She was more attractive than he. I don't know if he believes that she didn't kill his boys or that he is just defending her because he doesn't want to lose her. He may just be in complete denial ala Peterson. I think some people are in complete denial of what their spouse or family member is capable of. It would take some good hard proven evidence for me to ever believe that my husband or child was capable of murdering someone. What is the current status of their "marriage" did he file for divorce?
The big difference between the Routier case and the Ramsey's is that even if Patsy did hurt her daughter, it most likely was an accident. I don't think John would have defended her if she had butchered their two kids and let them bleed out on their living room floor, claiming an intruder came in and did it, and just basically destroyed his family in a blood bath. That is an incredibly difficult thing for a father to forgive, for either parent to forgive. I can't imagine anyone being so devoted to someone who would do such a vicious thing, esp for so long, all the while shielding accusations against himself because of his loyalty. Darin just doesn't strike me as a man who has the guts to stand up to that unless there is something in it for him. John Ramsey, on the other hand, would, imo, (have the guts, that is), but I don't think even he would carry loyalty that far.

Don't forget. These murders not only destroyed Darin's family but his career and his business as well. With the rep he has now, he will probably never get back to the financial potential he once had going from him. And we're supposed to believe that he can put the violent murders of his sons behind him but his loyalty and devotion to their murderer is undying???? I don't think so.
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Isn't that a little bit like having a king?

Not that kings are all bad. I am just glad right now that we do have term limits. Only so much damage can be done that way.
LOl, no, kings are not elected. They are born into their positions.
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LOl, no, kings are not elected. They are born into their positions.
Is Cami trying to make Goody look dumber than a box of rocks???? hahahahahahah. Of course, kings are not elected. But I suppose they could be if some country so desired. They elect dictators, don't they????
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Easybz,

If you can find the link for that article, send it to me in a PM and I'll restore the post. Thanks.
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Quote by Goody: It is her interview afterwards that I find most interesting and telling about where she is really coming from.


I'm curious about what she said in the interview? Can you tell us?
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Quote by Goody: It is her interview afterwards that I find most interesting and telling about where she is really coming from.


I'm curious about what she said in the interview? Can you tell us?
I think I was referring to the interview after the silly string party. You can see it at justicefordarlie.net. At least they used to have it, I think. It isn't so much of what she said but her mannerisms. Or maybe it was a combination of both. She made comments about how the boys wouldn't want Mommy and Daddy to be sad, that they had lived a full life and would want their parents to be happy,.....I can't remember it all, but she seemed ready and willing to get on with her life. There are times when Darin looks off into the distance (regret? guilt?) and there is a far away look in his eye. Then Darlie does it a little too, but she seems to be following his gaze. Only a week, maybe ten days,after the brutal murders of her sons, she held up surprisingly well and positive. Certainly better than anyone I have ever known. You will just have to see it for yourself.
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