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Old 06-14-2012, 04:28 PM
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Very Unlikely, JL' s body parts began to wash ashore in MISSISSIPPI only 16 hours after they were seen leaving the club! Her Murder had to have taken place soon after they left.

IIRC, her torso was found Thursday evening around 6p.m. and she left Temptations a little after 2a.m., so, that would have been around 28 hours after she was last seen.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:31 PM
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16 hours? That doesn't sound right. She left the club on June 6th at approx
2am. Her torso was the first part that washed ashore here in BSL on June 7th at 6pm. Is my math wrong or is that 30 hours? Investigators said the currents and knots were right for her to have put into the water on the 6th and made it to BSL on the 7th.
Her torso was found right before 6pm by the workers on the beach. We really don't know how long it was there do we. Just something to consider. Also the only other dump sites that would make sense would be the rigolets because the old hwy 90 back there is dark and secluded with little to no thru traffic. Another would be that old bridge that separates LA and MS state line (old hwy 90) back in the pearling ton area for those of you who know the area. Then there are all those public piers in Waveland and bay st Louis. Usually no one there after midnight on a weekday.
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Jaren Lockhart once trusted man detained in case

"Sparks had been a doormen for about two years at Stiletto's, said Christy Spence, 24, of Waveland, who worked there, too. He used to walk Lockhart to her car."

Read more here: http://www.sunherald.com/2012/06/13/...#storylink=cpy
JL didn't have a car...hence the reason she took a cab to work.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:32 PM
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Let's not forget that it rained for days here in bay st Louis and in the new Orleans area in the time frame of this crime. Most if not all evidence would have been washed away.
LE could tell she had been in the water for a while. If she were dumped in BSL she would have washed ashore far to the east.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:35 PM
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I guess you guys have seen this, but just in case-

http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/details.aspx?SRN=009596S6
I like that it mentions the 2" scar to the wrist on Speaks---suicide attempt???
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:35 PM
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JL didn't have a car...hence the reason she took a cab to work.
That's a good catch; however, perhaps she had a car in the past?
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:39 PM
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LE is also processing their 2001 truck. DNA could be all over it, along with fingerprints belonging to Jaren. Just because LE hasn't announced its findings doesn't mean it hasn't found anything!! How about the clothes they were wearing that night? Weapons?
Oh how I pray they find something! Unfortunately, the clothing is likely in a landfill somewhere.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:41 PM
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Going out on a really huge limb here, but could they have access to a boat? There is a Sanchez with a charter boat company out of the Lake Borne area...could be a relative and she knew how to get access?

http://www.reelexcitementcharters.net/index.htm
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:42 PM
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That's a good catch; however, perhaps she had a car in the past?
Exactly was I was thinking - We have all seen her in her recent photos in the driver's seat!
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:42 PM
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This was originally posted by RSQX in the last thread pg 41 IIRC. Regarding Terry Christopher Speaks. I found it interesting and thought I would bring it over again.
Statutory rape, stolen property charges made
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...r-speaks&hl=en

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Old 06-14-2012, 04:43 PM
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Haven't seen this article posted in here yet (if it is, forgive me... ianal)

http://www.eunicetoday.com/view/full...ws_left_column

Has a slightly different chunk of information from the other articles.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:44 PM
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I like that it mentions the 2" scar to the wrist on Speaks---suicide attempt???
Ppl who "cut" themselves aren't trying to commit suicide.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:46 PM
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This was originally posted by RSQX in the last thread pg 41 IIRC. Regarding Terry Christopher Speaks. I found it interesting and thought I would bring it over again.
Statutory rape, stolen property charges made
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...r-speaks&hl=en

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Old 06-14-2012, 04:47 PM
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LE could tell she had been in the water for a while. If she were dumped in BSL she would have washed ashore far to the east.
What I meant was we don't know when it actually washed up before they found it. Could have been 10 minutes or several hours. Other body parts found If I remember right on saturday morning.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:48 PM
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Exactly was I was thinking - We have all seen her in her recent photos in the driver's seat!
Excellent point.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:49 PM
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Going out on a really huge limb here, but could they have access to a boat? There is a Sanchez with a charter boat company out of the Lake Borne area...could be a relative and she knew how to get access?

http://www.reelexcitementcharters.net/index.htm
HUGE LIMB?! ~More like a tiny twig -- That makes very good sense, wow.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:52 PM
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IIRC, her torso was found Thursday evening around 6p.m. and she left Temptations a little after 2a.m., so, that would have been around 28 hours after she was last seen.
My Mistake sorry.. still 28 hours from New Orleans to Mississippi I still believe it happened soon after they left the club!
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:53 PM
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Let's not forget that it rained for days here in bay st Louis and in the new Orleans area in the time frame of this crime. Most if not all evidence would have been washed away.
Or easily covered with sand.
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Can Sanchez post bond and leave the Tangipahoa Parish Jail?

No. Hancock County has placed a hold order on Sanchez. "We are assuming it is a material witness hold," said McIntyre. Eventually, Hancock County prosecutors will have to file more information. Otherwise, there may be a hearing here on the status of Sanchez.

"They'll probably have to file again," said McIntyre.

"They could come back with a new extradition or affidavit today, tomorrow or next week," said McIntyre. "If they don't come back we would file to have a hearing on a bond."
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:56 PM
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I was looking at the map trying to think of places that looked good to dump a body (No... not planning on dumping one, myself). 1st Street on the other side of Rigolets off Rt 90 looked interesting. I noticed there's a gate at the beginning of the road, however, it might not ever be closed.
Sounds like you're referring to the gate by Fort Pike. Those gates are locked, no public access.


I was thinking it would be easy to dump something from a train bridge. They are usually out of the way and not as likely to be seen by anyone.....
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So obvious that this girl and TS were hellbent on getting someone to leave with them by offering more than one 'lure'.
I know I've mentioned it before, and even I dismissed it, but I think these two were inspired by Luka Magnotta, who was heavy in the news and had just been captured when Jaren was murdered.

As we know more, it sounds like the body was dismembered in exactly the same way as Lin Jun's was. I don't think it's coincidence.

Not exactly a "copycat," but I think Luka was the inspiration for these two, or at least part of the inspiration in the way Jaren's body was treated after the murder.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:58 PM
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Or easily covered with sand.
Yeah because there are bulldozers out there pushing sand around like crazy. No telling what might be buried that washed up only to be discovered later from a child with a sand bucket and a shovel. They really need to close the beach and send cadaver dogs out there.
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"What they have is evidence of a body," said McIntyre

No. Hancock County has placed a hold order on Sanchez. "We are assuming it is a material witness hold," said McIntyre

Read more: EuniceToday.com - Woman of interest in stripper torso case declines transfer from La jail to Mississippi

??? evidence of a body from the home found by cadaver dogs? OR is he referring to finding body parts?

Material WITNESS??? ok. lawyer speak... I think she was involved!
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This might be a stupid question, but are there places accessible by car and foot along there that would be secluded enough to dump a body into the water? I thought Pontchartrain was surrounded by swamps....no?
There are very few places accessible by car or foot between East New Orleans and the Silver Slipper Casino in Mississippi. The Rigolets is a good place to investigate as it drains Lake Ponchartrain into Lake Borgne then into the Mississippi Sound. US Highway 90 crosses it. Another area might be between the Silver Slipper and Buccaneer State Park. The body would have then gone in an northeast direction with the clockwise current of the Gulf. When I first heard the story, I figured they dumped the body from a boat to get in the ocean a ways, but I am thinking these two would have been too incompetant to operate even a small craft. Plus, the body washed up relatively quickly which ruled that out.
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:01 PM
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Many such places. A lot of swamps, but also land, roads, etc.
There is no lack of rural or isolated places around New Orleans straight through to Biloxi where the two could have done this to Jaren.

I just wonder if Sanchez and Speaks were aware that cameras would catch them leaving with Jaren, and, really, if they weren't aware, how could they not be? One would have to be majorly polluted to disregard the cameras that one knows are there, while luring a girl to her death.
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