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Old 06-24-2012, 09:53 PM
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Ah-ha! This explains it ~ I thought I was joking around with, LadyBug86, not Ladylub. LadyBug86 strikes me as having a playful personality and I responded to Ladylub thinking she was LadyBug. oops.

adding ~ shoot, this still sounds as if I'm insulting Ladylub. I'm not. I think I got the two posters mixed up is all so no wonder
Ladylub was confused.
No hard feelings. I was confused. I was thinking what have I done? LOL I rather ask and sound like a dumb dumb to someone insulting me then take the tone of the post wrong.
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:54 PM
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And even I mistake lub's comments for mine all the time then I'm like duhhh lol
Thanks that's what I figured out. Are you the one who just learned how to post links as per bessie's instructions?

The day I 'jested' ladylub, I thought it was you as your posts can be playful sounding so I thought it would be alright for me to do that.
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:02 PM
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This guys fingerprints are on file from all of his previous issues with the law, surely...so I feel confident they know exactly who they have and that MAS has confirmed his identity if there was ever a question...

Personally I never recognize anyone on security video, even when I see photos of them after they are caught...

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Old 06-24-2012, 10:08 PM
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TES, if asked by LE, may be in the area to try to help solve Jaren's case. TES has equipment that has sonar that can locate objects in water.
I'm not sure, but I think they'd do that if MS doesn't have the equipment to do that job.
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:20 PM
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Thanks that's what I figured out. Are you the one who just learned how to post links as per bessie's instructions?

The day I 'jested' ladylub, I thought it was you as your posts can be playful sounding so I thought it would be alright for me to do that.
Yes that would be me! And I'm i fast learner as i must say! I've even figured out how to create and album! !!!



And pm and get friends!!
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:32 PM
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TCS is still in the Federal prison in OK, release date 'unknown'.

http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinde...e=39&x=75&y=12

Click on 'who is a 'Federal Inmate' on the left and it explains reasons why TCS may be in OK and not NC.
It doesn't sound as if he's going on to NC to me. They've got him in OK for more than only one reason imo.
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:37 PM
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Yes that would be me! And I'm i fast learner as i must say! I've even figured out how to create and album! !!!



And pm and get friends!!
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Thanks, you've brought me full circle. Just wanted to be sure and needed to understand where, when and why my communication breakdown occurred.

You go girl!!!
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:38 PM
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TCS is still in the Federal prison in OK, release date 'unknown'.

http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinde...e=39&x=75&y=12

Click on 'who is a 'Federal Inmate' on the left and it explains reasons why TCS may be in OK and not NC.
It doesn't sound as if he's going on to NC to me. They've got him in OK for more than only one reason imo.
Interesting! Wonder what is going on!
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Old 06-24-2012, 10:51 PM
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This guys fingerprints are on file from all of his previous issues with the law, surely...so I feel confident they know exactly who they have and that MAS has confirmed his identity if there was ever a question...

Personally I never recognize anyone on security video, even when I see photos of them after they are caught...

JMO
True. But who is this guy really? Is he more than just TCS, RSO from NC who keeps running away from his probation sentence?
Or is he someone who is and has been doing worse things all along (I know that's bad enough) and now he's connected to a gruesome murder.
If he was an RSO who didn't want to live with that label so he tried to run away, he wouldn't end up with his fingerprints all over this case.
He had to know he'd be seen on surveillance camera at Temptations and/or Stilletos.
It's even been alledged that he got fired from a bar for adjusting suveillance cameras, so we know he'd be aware they are there.
Makes no sense that he'd be that blatant in picking a girl if he knew what he was about to do to her.

Now, if the guy on the tape is not him, that's another story. LE just said they were looking to talk to those two people.
That could be Mike somebody and MAS, no? Mike somebody has nothing to do with this but TS was waiting in the wings for
MAS to come out of the club with a girl.

My question (so that I'm not in error with my thinking). Did LE ever say that video guy is Terry Speaks?
Or did they just want to id that guy for questioning?

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Old 06-24-2012, 11:07 PM
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True. But who is this guy really? Is he more than just TCS, RSO from NC who keeps running away from his probation sentence?
Or is he someone who is and has been doing worse things all along (I know that's bad enough) and now he's connected to a gruesome murder.
If he was an RSO who didn't want to live with that label so he tried to run away, he wouldn't end up with his fingerprints all over this case.
He had to know he'd be seen on surveillance camera at Temptations and/or Stilletos.
It's even been alledged that he got fired from a bar for adjusting suveillance cameras, so we know he'd be aware they are there.
Makes no sense that he'd be that blatant in picking a girl if he knew what he was about to do to her.

Now, if the guy on the tape is not him, that's another story. LE just said they were looking to talk to those two people.
That could be Mike somebody and MAS, no? Mike somebody has nothing to do with this but TS was waiting in the wings for
MAS to come out of the club with a girl.

My question (so that I'm not in error with my thinking). Did LE ever say that video guy is Terry Speaks?
Or did they just want to id that guy for questioning?
IIRC LE never said one way or the other... BUT people who knew him said it was 100% him~ so I will have to agree.
The weird thing is LE said she was seen LEAVING with them. Yet they showed video of just the two of them (MAS and TCS) ARRIVING!
I'm sure they have their reasons but color me confused!
TS doesn't even look like the same guy in his mug shots to me anyway!
I do wonder what the heck he has been involved in!
Other than the obvious!
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:11 PM
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I don't think LE would want to show the last video of Jaren with these people if they did not have to...would not be a good image for those who love her, to see her last moments alive in the company of these people. As it was, they were able to ID them without showing it...
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:13 PM
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Can those of you who do not think all the photos are of TS please post the photo you are talking about please?
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I must admit, they do look similar. I'm not sure if they are the same. It's very hard to tell from these pictures. I can't imagine that LE would have slipped up this hard though.





(if these pictures are too big let me know and I will resize them)
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Yes, it looks like he did have something done!
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http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/photohi...x?srn=009596S6

Photo history for TS.






I think he looks older and tired in the "current" mugshot. I also think it's his hair, not necessarily a change to his ears.
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I'm a photographer and graphic designer. Looking at the two pictures it's not that they are that different, it's just that it looks like someone who doesn't know what they are doing with images cropped the North Carolina photo in a way that didn't keep the proportions relative, which squished his face and makes his ears look like they stick out more. Actually, it might even just be the way the web person posted them on the web - here is a direct link to that image when not shown through the website and you can see that he looks less "squished" (for lack of a better term! )

http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/photo.aspx?srn=009596S6



It doesn't look like he's done anything to me but gotten older, grown out his hair, and dyed it orange. Not to mention the pictures are taken from very different angles and the lens of the cameras have added distortion which makes features look vastly different from one photograph to the next.

This image below of the same woman shows how the different lens and focal length REALLY makes a difference in how someone looks:



Link to full article that explains lens distortion which the image above was taken from:
http://gizmodo.com/5857279/this-is-h...ur-pretty-face
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Just this one from NC. I'd like to see the current one.

http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/details.aspx?srn=009596S6



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Woe - I'll give it a shot.

The first 3 pics are from this link: http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/photohi...x?srn=009596S6


The 4th pic is from here:http://www.wxii12.com/news/local-new...z/-/index.html

Y'all should be very impressed I figured out how to do that.

Here's a bunch of pictures we can re evaluate.
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:19 PM
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It looks like there's a tatoo on the back of video guy's neck.

Also, TCS's hair would have grown awfully darn fast in only one week when you compare video guy's hair at the neckline to TCS's hair in the jail suit.
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:23 PM
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Come on people - what's up with these pics? How did Speaks grow that beard - what's that style called? - in only one day?
O'kay, I'm loosing it, he shaved the beard off and they took his picture again the next day. Duh.

Something is wrong with these pictures.

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Old 06-24-2012, 11:30 PM
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It sure seems like he has been "in the system" for a long time! Men do change as they age... IMO more so than women,,, I recognize all the girls I went to high school with but... 25+ years later I can't ID some of the guys! ~

I do agree about the hair length! BUT have no idea if his head is angled down because we can't see his face!
It was his intention to distort his identity and hide from the US Marshall's... it worked for me! guess I better keep my day job!
Honestly, his nose even looks different from 7/2011 to now!
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:32 PM
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Come on people - what's up with these pics? How did Speaks grow that beard - what's that style called? - in only one day?

Something is wrong with these pictures.
DUH! I thought he shaved it off!

Van Dyke?

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http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...n_death_o.html

This article contains the info that Speaks was wearing a cap according to SN and the video shows a man with a 'hat'.

Where is it confirmed that the man is TCS?

I'm looking for the video of Speaks in the orange suit. Can we see the same tatoos on his right arm there? Where is the full video, not just the still shot?
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:39 PM
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DUH! I thought he shaved it off!

Van Dyke?
Me too. I had to go back and look.

Weird.

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Ha! The beards scared me!
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Ha! The beards scared me!
I don't have a beard yet... but gimme a few years! my granny had one! lol ~ BAD gngr!
eta: I can't find the video... I'm looking!
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It sure seems like he has been "in the system" for a long time! Men do change as they age... IMO more so than women,,, I recognize all the girls I went to high school with but... 25+ years later I can't ID some of the guys! ~

I do agree about the hair length! BUT have no idea if his head is angled down because we can't see his face!
It was his intention to distort his identity and hide from the US Marshall's... it worked for me! guess I better keep my day job!
Honestly, his nose even looks different from 7/2011 to now!
Sure, we all change as we age but these pics are only one day apart and then only 2-1/2 years between January 2009 and June 2012.
It usually takes a decade or so to change dramatically due to aging and/or weight gain or even illness.

How can the beard be explained? Oh I know, Woe is stupid! Maybe we'll figure it out tomorrow or tonight.
At least it'll be Monday so maybe some new info will be released. NOT!
We can only hope.

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I don't have a beard yet... but gimme a few years! my granny had one! lol ~ BAD gngr!
eta: I can't find the video... I'm looking!
I keep a close eye on mine - ugh!
Hair where it's supposed to be begins falling out and then you get hair where it's not supposed to be - lol! And it's not funny!
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Me too. I had to go back and look and check the dates on the pictures three times before I posted.
How did we miss that or did I just miss a prior post where someone already pointed that out?

Shows why it's important to go back over info time and time again.

Weird.
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Come on people - what's up with these pics? How did Speaks grow that beard (he didn't) - what's that style called? - in only one day?

Something is wrong with these pictures.
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DUH! I thought he shaved it off!

Van Dyke?
gngr~snap, It's official, I've just lost it. You're right. TCS had the beard on January 27 and didn't have the beard on January 28.
That means they made him shave it off I guess. Now I have date dyslexia. OMG. I'd better rest now because I'm messing up here big time.

Still, I think something is up with this guy and his identity over time.
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I keep a close eye on mine - ugh!
Hair where it's supposed to be begins falling out and then you get hair where it's not supposed to be - lol! And it's not funny!
It is to those that are younger than us! In my case it's payback!

I WISH someone knew where some images of him on social media sites were! I'd imagine he avoided the camera! BUT not that night???
That night he parades in front of it?
The only reason I can see him doing that would be to SAVE his own rear?!

COULD he just be a material witness? Maybe not just hiding from LE but from the BIG BROTHERS too???

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gngr~snap, it's official that I just lost it. You're right. TCS had the beard on January 27 and didn't have the beard on January 28. That means they made him shave it off I guess. Now I have date dyslexia. OMG. I'd better rest now because I'm messing up hear bigtime.

Still, I think something is up with this guy and his identity over time.
maybe... guess his hair grows fast cause I see stubble in the photo on the 28th~ and I am about BLIND! (not really... can't read a phone book or a pill bottle!! I just need reading glasses now)
no offense anyone...
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