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07-08-2012, 12:42 PM
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Freaking unbelievable. No parenting class can cure what she has.
As for giving the baby to the grandma... well look at Jhessye Shockley grandma or Caylee Anthony's grandma. Both of those grandmas KNOW their daughter's killed their baby girls and they defend the killer to the end.
Sometimes Grandma is just another nut in the family tree and the kid needs to be far away from all of them!!!
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My former student, Cleveland Carto (age 11) , was brutally murdered, also killed were Cleveland's mother, sister, and his sister's 1 year old baby.The sister's boyfriend was charged with the crime and confessed to stabbing the family and then setting fire to the house with his baby daughter inside. Cyrus was somehow acquitted of this crime by the state but now Cyrus Casby being tried again on a federal level. This case is a landmark case because he thought the "double jeopardy" law would protect him. But the feds feel that this case cried out for justice and he is now being charged on a federal level.
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...ling_four.html
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ht=cyrus+casby
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07-08-2012, 01:36 PM
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Katydid23 was being sarcastic in her mention of "parenting". We all agree that no amount of parenting classes can fix a defective soul.
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07-08-2012, 02:40 PM
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Katydid23 was being sarcastic in her mention of "parenting". We all agree that no amount of parenting classes can fix a defective soul.
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I know she was!!! WE all agree that the parenting classes don't help someone like this, when is CPS going to catch up?
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07-08-2012, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SwampMama
Freaking unbelievable. No parenting class can cure what she has.
As for giving the baby to the grandma... well look at Jhessye Shockley grandma or Caylee Anthony's grandma. Both of those grandmas KNOW their daughter's killed their baby girls and they defend the killer to the end.
Sometimes Grandma is just another nut in the family tree and the kid needs to be far away from all of them!!!
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Yes... Though not true in all cases, sometimes I have to wonder where they learned this stuff.
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07-08-2012, 02:59 PM
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That is exactly what I thought when I saw her on Nancy Grace. Her eyes also have that "I'm evil and I know it" look that Casey sports as well.
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07-11-2012, 11:55 PM
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Found this link that has more details of what happened and a link to copies of the police reports on the mother and father, on his domestic abuse case:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1635441.html
The father BTW said the grandmother is 'wonderful' but not sure I trust his judgement. Apparently she already had the other child and was trying to get custody and this child was also placed with her when she got out of the hospital. CPS is supposed to do a home study on her.
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07-20-2012, 10:42 PM
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Creepy. And I have little faith that she will face justice. I just know she will get that baby back. Can you imagine? The trust is gone forever. That poor, confused baby only knew that her mother was yelling at her and shaking her and throwing her around and throwing food at her. That baby can never overcome that. Her own mother treated her horribly, over a over again. She should never have to see her mother's face again.
But, I am betting, based on history with similar cases in the past - she will. And she will do very little time at all for her crimes. Makes me sick.
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I sure would like to see the links of the similar cases you're aware of.
Not every kid in foster care was abused just because the case was founded.
I've been watching CPS and child abuse cases for over 25 years. I've seen them from both sides of the fence. I could open a thread with the various cases.
And I'm also aware of several cases where they considered them unfounded and the child/children were definitely abused. There was one when the mother got tired of the baby screaming so she put a pillow over baby's face. I think she took it off as soon as he stopped crying, and thank God the child was still breathing.
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