***ARREST*** Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #32

[Allusonz]

Originally Posted by waiting1979

most of you seem to know trucks pretty well. Here is a version of the Silverado that sort of explains the projected dimensions of the rear wheel well. In this case it's because it's a dually,which I believe means two sets of two wheels on the rear axle. The rear wheel well therefore comes out twice as far. This truck also has a short bed and a crew cab. Can we rule out a vehicle like this? This one is used for pulling equipment on a flat bed trailer.

Waiting how I wish I could help you with the truck aspects.

Unfortunately, this blonde knows virtually nothing about them

[CajunCoDe]

Regarding alcohol sales/consumption in Lafayette. The sale of alcohol is prohibited after 2am, except Sundays it is midnight. Consumption is 2:30 and 12:30 on Sunday might/Monday morning. Sales are also prohibited before 11am. I can't tell you how many times I have had to wander around Albertson's on game day waiting for 11am! It has always been this way, at least since I started drinking 17 years ago

Whoever is selling beer after 2am is doing so illegally. Lucky gal. Take advantage of that and I have noted te 2 locations mentioned earlier just in case I get a baby sitter one night and have a wild hair to pull an all nighter.

Here is a link to the city ordinance: http://library.municode.com/mobile/d...73%26docID%3d1

I don't even remember why we are talking about this...

Oh, I thought this was interesting. Of New year's Eve or 4th of July fall on a Sunday, the law changes to 2am. I am sure I knew that years ago...

[cluciano63]

Originally Posted by Allusonz

To be honest I am more curious as to why they were thinking it that early in the case.

The bike had not been located yet so it would not be from the forensics of the bike.

The only other conclusion I can come to would be video they have reviewed.

Still guessing but again, I think they were just taking the position that seemed most likely (to them, anyway) that she might come home. I don't believe they have seen video of an accident-there would have been a crime scene, examiners, etc. for long enough to be picked up by media, or locals.

[justwannahelp]

Originally Posted by CajunCoDe

Regarding alcohol sales/consumption in Lafayette. The sale of alcohol is prohibited after 2am, except Sundays it is midnight. Consumption is 2:30 and 12:30 on Sunday might/Monday morning. Sales are also prohibited before 11am. I can't tell you how many times I have had to wander around Albertson's on game day waiting for 11am! It has always been this way, at least since I started drinking 17 years ago

Whoever is selling beer after 2am is doing so illegally. Lucky gal. Take advantage of that and I have noted te 2 locations mentioned earlier just in case I get a baby sitter one night and have a wild hair to pull an all nighter.

Here is a link to the city ordinance: http://library.municode.com/mobile/d...73%26docID%3d1

I don't even remember why we are talking about this...

Oh, I thought this was interesting. Of New year's Eve or 4th of July fall on a Sunday, the law changes to 2am. I am sure I knew that years ago...

BBM

they were trying to explain why the guy at the gas station was running
one explanation was that it was close to alcohol "closing time"

[LafayetteMom]

Originally Posted by mahmoo

Your comment is interesting. I've been around these parts for years and I remember MANY occasions our group was still "in the party mood" and were not able to find any business establishment that ever gave into our whims/needs lol. If we miscalculated our alcohol "needs"...basically, we were SOL!!! Maybe times have changed but I truly wonder how desperate any Lafayette business is for business that they would take the risk associated with selling "after hours" not to mention to minors??

That said ... I've seen NOTHING associated with MS's case that leads me to believe alcohol consumption played any role in her abduction. Perhaps her abductor(s) was hyped up on alcohol at the time but, my experience with alcohol is that it basically would put the "imbiber" at a disadvantage. Alcohol makes people stupid ... not smart enough to pull off a crime and leave NO clues behind.

Not jumping on you ... just jumping off your post.

I wasn't suggested alcohol played a key factor in anything...that was just brought up b/c someone said the "running guy" at Circle K may have been trying to get liquor before 2am. Like I said, I haven't ever been told I couldn't buy it...also they are supposed to be a piece of tape over your cup at the drive-thru daiquiri places so it isn't considered an "open container" however, many times there is no piece of tape.

[Hypothetical]

Originally Posted by nutkin

That must have been changed fairly recently because the only laws I can find say that all grocery, convenience, and package stores can sell 24/7 and no local municipality has the power to restrict it.

I always thought LA's alcohol laws were ridiculous. I don't think you should be able to buy hard liquor at Wal-Mart.

Nope. It has been that way for my entire life. I always found the time restriction to be silly.

Walmart... "package store", what's the difference?

[mahmoo]

Originally Posted by manlet

It's written on her FB page by the owner of the page..."Let's hope she gets set free on this independence day!". Is she being held in captivity? Sex slave human trafficking ring ordeal? That's how I take it...

Maybe not a popular opinion but ... I think it's absurd. WHEN was the last time we've heard of a person being held for ransom in the US??? It would take a major astute criminal to pull something of that nature off and frankly ... considering other options from a financial standpoint, holding a person for ransom in this day and age does not seem to be a "popular" nor "substantial wealth gaining" move. It's just basically unheard of.

[LafayetteMom]

Originally Posted by CajunCoDe

Regarding alcohol sales/consumption in Lafayette. The sale of alcohol is prohibited after 2am, except Sundays it is midnight. Consumption is 2:30 and 12:30 on Sunday might/Monday morning. Sales are also prohibited before 11am. I can't tell you how many times I have had to wander around Albertson's on game day waiting for 11am! It has always been this way, at least since I started drinking 17 years ago

Whoever is selling beer after 2am is doing so illegally. Lucky gal. Take advantage of that and I have noted te 2 locations mentioned earlier just in case I get a baby sitter one night and have a wild hair to pull an all nighter.

Here is a link to the city ordinance: http://library.municode.com/mobile/d...73%26docID%3d1

I don't even remember why we are talking about this...

Oh, I thought this was interesting. Of New year's Eve or 4th of July fall on a Sunday, the law changes to 2am. I am sure I knew that years ago...

Ok so I knew Albertson's had some sort of rules, before they had the separate little place for alcohol, it was all over in the corner and they would put a barrier of shopping carts in front so you couldn't get to it, at whatever time. But since they have the separate little thing now, they just lock the door. However, there is still lots of alcohol outside of that, in the store. Can you not just pick that up and buy it? Not that they stay open past 2am anymore anyway, but I guess on Sunday mornings.

eta: My fave time to go grocery shopping used to be during the middle of the night/early morning. Weren't many people in the stores, wasn't so freaking hot outside. I was majorly bummed when Albertson's and other stores started closing early. I think it was right after Katrina, when all the Walmarts here quit staying open 24 hours and I was super annoyed lol. I think they closed at 12 and even Albertson's was open later than them, maybe til 4? But either way, I'm starting to realize it's just not safe to go out of the house and that time anymore.

[aussie_girl88]

Morning from Australia was hoping to wake up to some good news about Mickey unfortunately none. But did wake up to university results and got high distinctions for all my subjects so 1 semester left and by the end of the year will be a registered nurse yay. Happy 4th of July to all my American friends xoxo

[SteveP]

Originally Posted by Hypothetical

Nope. It has been that way for my entire life. I always found the time restriction to be silly.

Walmart... "package store", what's the difference?

Hmmm, maybe you have never seen that people of walmart site...trust me, hard liquor in aisle 12 would not be a pretty thing.

[CajunCoDe]

Originally Posted by justwannahelp

BBM

they were trying to explain why the guy at the gas station was running
one explanation was that it was close to alcohol "closing time"

Oh yeah (forehead slap). I think that was actually my suggestion.

[LafayetteMom]

Originally Posted by SteveP

Hmmm, maybe you have never seen that people of walmart site...trust me, hard liquor in aisle 12 would not be a pretty thing.

But they DO sell hard liquor at Walmart...

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Jose-Cuerv....75-l/12167136
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=14118968

[SteveP]

I was so hoping that with today being a holiday and so many people off work and out and about, perhaps this would be the day that someone found Mickey or something that may bring this to a close. As a parent, the only thing I can imagine worse than losing my child would be to have my child just disappear and never be found and never have any kind of closure. She needs to get home.

[SteveP]

Originally Posted by Hypothetical

Nope. It has been that way for my entire life. I always found the time restriction to be silly.

Walmart... "package store", what's the difference?

Originally Posted by lindsayw

But they DO sell hard liquor at Walmart...

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Jose-Cuerv....75-l/12167136
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=14118968

Wow...here in NC, Walmart and convenience stores can sell beer and wine, but hard liquor can only be legally sold through state-run ABC stores.

[mahmoo]

Originally Posted by who knew?

Not speaking for ACI, but he was asked to cease and desist by the family. He complied.

True. Still, ain't nuttin' stopping him from inquiring to whomever holds the records to that info at ULL. I'm really hoping LPD looked into it already and shame on them if they didn't/haven't. ACI can pursue whatever avenue he deems worthy ... he doesn't have to make his findings public.

[mahmoo]

Been looking at the booze governing laws in Louisiana ... looks like it CAN be sold 24/7 which surprised me. No time restraints other than on the bars. Was always under the impression the stores stopped selling at 2 am as well.

Still don't think a "drunk" liquored up perp committed this crime abducting MS though. Are drunks that meticulous when it comes to "cleaning up" ???

[mahmoo]

Originally Posted by SteveP

I was so hoping that with today being a holiday and so many people off work and out and about, perhaps this would be the day that someone found Mickey or something that may bring this to a close. As a parent, the only thing I can imagine worse than losing my child would be to have my child just disappear and never be found and never have any kind of closure. She needs to get home.

I don't really like saying this but, without this case being front & center in the media every day ... it is basically falling by the wayside sadly enough. I mentioned the case the other night at a large gathering I was at and almost everyone I mentioned it to looked at me with a "what are you talking about" look on their face. When I went into a bit more detail they were like "oh yeah, I heard about that" and unfortunately, the conversation moved quickly on to another topic. I'm a voracious crime follower but ... most folks are not even if the crime is in their own backyard.

[Foxfire]

Originally Posted by mahmoo

Maybe not a popular opinion but ... I think it's absurd. WHEN was the last time we've heard of a person being held for ransom in the US??? It would take a major astute criminal to pull something of that nature off and frankly ... considering other options from a financial standpoint, holding a person for ransom in this day and age does not seem to be a "popular" nor "substantial wealth gaining" move. It's just basically unheard of.

Kidnappng for Ransom in the US

Kidnapping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kidnapping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kidnapping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kidnapping for ransom is a common occurrence in various parts of the world today, and certain cities and countries are often described as the "Kidnapping Capital of the World." As of 2007, that title belongs to Iraq with possibly 1,500 foreigners kidnapped.[22][23] In 2004, it was Mexico,[24] and in 2001, it was Colombia.[25] Statistics are harder to come by. Reports suggest a world total of 12,500-25,500/year with 3,600/year in Colombia and 3,000/year in Mexico around the year 2000.[26] However by 2006, the number of kidnappings in Colombia had declined to 687 and it continues to decline.[27] Mexican numbers are hard to confirm because of fears of police involvement in kidnapping.[28] "Kidnapping seems to flourish particularly in fragile states and conflict countries, as politically motivated militias, organized crime and the drugs mafia fill the vacuum left by government."[21]

In 2009, the Los Angeles Times named Phoenix, Arizona[29] as America's kidnapping capital, reporting that every year hundreds of ransom kidnappings occur there, virtually all within the underworld associated with human and drug smuggling from Mexico, and often done as a way of collecting unpaid debts. Other major U.S. cities that are hotbeds for kidnappings are Detroit, Atlanta, New Orleans, Houston, and Chicago.[29] Many of them are done by major street gangs near tourist attractions.

[mahmoo]

Originally Posted by Foxfire

Kidnappng for Ransom in the US
Kidnapping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kidnapping for ransom is a common occurrence in various parts of the world today, and certain cities and countries are often described as the "Kidnapping Capital of the World." As of 2007, that title belongs to Iraq with possibly 1,500 foreigners kidnapped.[22][23] In 2004, it was Mexico,[24] and in 2001, it was Colombia.[25] Statistics are harder to come by. Reports suggest a world total of 12,500-25,500/year with 3,600/year in Colombia and 3,000/year in Mexico around the year 2000.[26] However by 2006, the number of kidnappings in Colombia had declined to 687 and it continues to decline.[27] Mexican numbers are hard to confirm because of fears of police involvement in kidnapping.[28] "Kidnapping seems to flourish particularly in fragile states and conflict countries, as politically motivated militias, organized crime and the drugs mafia fill the vacuum left by government."[21]

In 2009, the Los Angeles Times named Phoenix, Arizona[29] as America's kidnapping capital, reporting that every year hundreds of ransom kidnappings occur there, virtually all within the underworld associated with human and drug smuggling from Mexico, and often done as a way of collecting unpaid debts. Other major U.S. cities that are hotbeds for kidnappings are Detroit, Atlanta, New Orleans, Houston, and Chicago.[29] Many of them are done by major street gangs near tourist attractions.

If an over abundance of "kidnappings held for ransom" are happening in the U.S. it sure doesn't seem to be making headlines. Websleuths covers that type of crime ... is there a thread here highlighting that it is a problem that should be of concern to all U.S. citizens?? Foreign countries seem to be more plagued by that than the U.S. I certainly understand there is an issue with "abductions" but not so much where there is a "ransom" involved ... not here anyway.

[jennapuppy]

Originally Posted by eileenhawkeye

Yeah, I'll be honest and say it seems like a double standard when you compare the reactions to the Shunicks not speaking out, compared to the Celis family. With the Shunicks, people will defend them not talking to the media (it has to be weeks, right?) because they are too distraught. But with Rebecca and Sergio, I've seen so many posts that they say aren't talking because they don't want the media to start asking questions.

I think the reason for the difference in public reaction is because Isa Celis is a 6-year old who disappeared from her home in the middle of the night. In cases like that, we tend to suspect parents/family members who were in the home at the time of the disappearance. In cases like Mickey's, where a young woman disappears from a public place, we tend to suspect an unknown perp who abducts random young women at opportune moments. IMO

[mahmoo]

And one more fleeting thought on the kidnapping for ransom theory ... IF that were possibly a consideration in this Lafayette case ... WHY wouldn't the perp(s) choose a victim whose family has a WHOLE LOT more money than I suspect the Shunicks have??? There are a LOT of VERY VERY wealthy folks in Lafayette.

[CajunCoDe]

Just curious: how often in a missing person case is the reward capped? I have not followed many, but I cannot find anything via google on this. I found a site explaining the reasoning behind this, an it makes sense. Just wondering how often this is actually done.

[jujube]

Originally Posted by mahmoo

I don't really like saying this but, without this case being front & center in the media every day ... it is basically falling by the wayside sadly enough. I mentioned the case the other night at a large gathering I was at and almost everyone I mentioned it to looked at me with a "what are you talking about" look on their face. When I went into a bit more detail they were like "oh yeah, I heard about that" and unfortunately, the conversation moved quickly on to another topic. I'm a voracious crime follower but ... most folks are not even if the crime is in their own backyard.

People that I've spoken to in Lafayette had that attitude 2 weeks ago. Mickey gets more attention here than she does in her hometown. Some people have the attitude that she asked for it because she was out riding her bike alone at 2am. Please note that I do not feel this way. No one deserves to disappear.
The Lafayette media is a joke. High school newspapers have reporters more interested in a story. I will say that a reporter did try to ask about the fund raising and about a public accounting. He was criticized up the wazoo. At least he was keeping people talking.
Mickey's case, I'm afraid is going cold. I have a feeling the only way she'll be found is if someone who knows something or has heard something comes forward.

[kjnmom]

Video Links from Charlie

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuzu1BdcSHCnX6YwlRwEx-A

[nutkin]

Originally Posted by SteveP

Wow...here in NC, Walmart and convenience stores can sell beer and wine, but hard liquor can only be legally sold through state-run ABC stores.

Same here in Texas and public intoxication laws are very much enforced here. So much so that police will wait outside of bars and arrest people as they are walking to their cars.