Found Deceased CA - Linnea Lomax, 19, Sacramento, 26 June 2012 - #3

[Coldpizza]

Originally Posted by trackinghounds

As to the false sightings, I believe this was one aspect that hurt the search with my dogs - I never knew if it was a good sighting or not or even thought to be decent. Then the scent item was brought out by too many people and one person, bless his heart, even reached in a grabbed it with his bare hands - not knowing better - and I could not use it. I do believe the scent items were not handled right. But they were learning and I was not consulted, and I know they did the best they could and were trying under the difficult circumstances. In retrospect, I believe none of the sightings were good and the only decent trail was to the river.

Personal thank you for input. Your posts along with some others have allowed my mind to "feel" what is happening in the search efforts.

I'm mixed on the false sightings being helpful or harmful. From a searchers point of view especially with dogs, a false sighting seems like a detriment considering the dogs need to have fresh information while remaining fresh themselves along with their handlers. Frustrating I'm sure being on that end.

At the same time I wonder if the false sightings also keep a search going?

If I were a parent in this situation I would be losing my mind, but at the same time be grateful for the attention good or bad.

I surely hope Linnea is accounted for soon and foremost hope she is safe.

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Originally Posted by Eileen730

Well as i see it the only ppl that know she is missing are those in that area and us on this forum!
Another thing that pops out to me is that Marc Klass speaks to them but maybe cant search for her because it does not meet the criteria. All jmo

Maybe I asked this before, but is Marc Klaas really involved in this case? EDSD put out one article that said they were informed that the family (or searchers) were in contact with him. Other sources say they are in contact with him. But that doesn't really mean much and I never seen that on publicity releases or missing posters. I'm just wondering why it keeps being posted around like that but no more has been said. Maybe he gave them some suggestions on conducting searches or PR or something. IDK

[Analyze This]

Originally Posted by time

Maybe I asked this before, but is Marc Klaas really involved in this case? EDSD put out one article that said they were informed that the family (or searchers) were in contact with him. Other sources say they are in contact with him. But that doesn't really mean much and I never seen that on publicity releases or missing posters. I'm just wondering why it keeps being posted around like that but no more has been said. Maybe he gave them some suggestions on conducting searches or PR or something. IDK

I don't know how involved Klaas is, but I do know in other cases that I've followed there hasn't really been a big splash or a lot of publicity surrounding their assistance to the families. Usually, I've only read that they were contacted or that they might be advising the family. I've never noticed their name on any of the missing posters or included in press releases unless they are conducting a very specific search.

[Eileen730]

Originally Posted by time

Maybe I asked this before, but is Marc Klaas really involved in this case? EDSD put out one article that said they were informed that the family (or searchers) were in contact with him. Other sources say they are in contact with him. But that doesn't really mean much and I never seen that on publicity releases or missing posters. I'm just wondering why it keeps being posted around like that but no more has been said. Maybe he gave them some suggestions on conducting searches or PR or something. IDK

I dont believe so i think it was stated on the FB page that they contacted him!
I think he may have given them advice!

[Eileen730]

Originally Posted by Analyze This

I don't know how involved Klaas is, but I do know in other cases that I've followed there hasn't really been a big splash or a lot of publicity surrounding their assistance to the families. Usually, I've only read that they were contacted or that they might be advising the family. I've never noticed their name on any of the missing posters or included in press releases unless they are conducting a very specific search.

Well he sure was out there in the Sierra Lamar case!
Klass Kids went out to help with Brittney wood!

[SoSueMe]

Linnea Lomax is classified as a "Missing Person at Risk" by LE. If at any prior time she was listed as voluntarily missing, that has changed. Websleuths is going by the most current information in this case and Linnea is considered "at risk" and will be treated as such.

Mention of any previous posts by unverified members, or that have been removed, will be met with a loss of posting privileges.

Wild speculation about Linnea's family or their motives to find Linnea will be met with a loss of posting privileges.

Verified Members in this case are as follows:

AQuietHeart - Insider
trackinghounds - Insider
Ender - Local/Insider
DomCobb - Local/Searcher/Insider
Silentone is a verified insider

Consideration should be given to posts of Verified Members in the area(s) which they are verified only.

Thank you and again, please, let's find Linnea.

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Originally Posted by Analyze This

I don't know how involved Klaas is, but I do know in other cases that I've followed there hasn't really been a big splash or a lot of publicity surrounding their assistance to the families. Usually, I've only read that they were contacted or that they might be advising the family. I've never noticed their name on any of the missing posters or included in press releases unless they are conducting a very specific search.

Thanks, I am trying to sort these things out as so many different elements have been added to the search (Klaas, human trafficking, etc). Beyond that I have concern about so many phone numbers for tips. I'm never comfortable with tips going anywhere but LE when they are actively involved in a case either - for many reasons, but even simply for coordination. The stipulations attached to reward money on the main (Quester posted yesterday on that) seem too restrictive and contradict the intended results (as stated in other places, e.g., just knowing she is safe and well or whatever)?

"Up to $10,000 reward for information that directly leads to the safe return of Linnea Lomax to her Family or to the custody of Law Enforcement."

helpfindlinnea.org

[silentone]

Here is a new and updated posting on the Help Find Linnea site that fills in many of the details of her life in the past year. It answers some of the questions that have been posted on this forum, including why her parents were concerned about her and the steps that they took to help her.

http://www.helpfindlinnea.org/timeline/

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I'm not sure if this is more than has been posted because this is the first time I've looked for the 'timeline' on the family site. One is up

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Originally Posted by silentone

Here is a new and updated posting on the Help Find Linnea site that fills in many of the details of her life in the past year. It answers some of the questions that have been posted on this forum, including why her parents were concerned about her and the steps that they took to help her.

http://www.helpfindlinnea.org/timeline/

It is mentioned that she "had sores around her mouth, the result of dehydration and/or malnutrition."

[Angels_Not_Forgotten]

According to the timeline information, she was afraid she wasn't good enough or learning enough I guess i should say, and thought she was gonna fail two classes. In One of them she got an A minus. I've never been to any college classes (I take mine online). Is this normal? Meaning you don't find out what your grade is as you go along? I know in my courses I can see my average as each assignment is turned in.

Seems really odd she thought she would fall but did get an A. I guess it really doesn't matter, but that just stood out to me. Poor L.

Come home beautiful girl! Everyone misses you!

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[C.Hound]

Originally Posted by silentone

Here is a new and updated posting on the Help Find Linnea site that fills in many of the details of her life in the past year. It answers some of the questions that have been posted on this forum, including why her parents were concerned about her and the steps that they took to help her.

http://www.helpfindlinnea.org/timeline/

Thanks silentone. This timeline is gut wrenching. Reading it, I felt like I was part of the family witnessing Linnea's descent into mental illness. It definitely puts into perspective why her parents are in such turmoil and have gone to great lengths to publicize her mental status and urgent need to find her.

[nursebeeme]

Originally Posted by silentone

Here is a new and updated posting on the Help Find Linnea site that fills in many of the details of her life in the past year. It answers some of the questions that have been posted on this forum, including why her parents were concerned about her and the steps that they took to help her.

http://www.helpfindlinnea.org/timeline/

this is just so incredibly sad to read... I hope she is found soon and that she is safe somewhere...

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Originally Posted by Angels_Not_Forgotten

According to the timeline information, she was afraid she wasn't good enough or learning enough I guess i should say, and thought she was gonna fail two classes. In One of them she got an A minus. I've never been to any college classes (I take mine online). Is this normal? Meaning you don't find out what your grade is as you go along?

I think that depends on whether there were ungraded assignments out and how many. It could also depend on the weight given to a particular assignment, e.g., there was a paper handed in that had yet to be graded but it counted for a high percentage of her grade. Then I guess there are curves to grades after all the results are in.

My son has called several times in the past two years fearing he may not get a good grade but then he ends up getting an A or something, so I don't know what to read into all this.

[Psychic Sleuth]

Hoping they find Linnea this weekend!!

[Analyze This]

Originally Posted by C.Hound

Thanks silentone. This timeline is gut wrenching. Reading it, I felt like I was part of the family witnessing Linnea's descent into mental illness. It definitely puts into perspective why her parents are in such turmoil and have gone to great lengths to publicize her mental status and urgent need to find her.

Agreed. It was heartbreaking to read the history that occurred before Linnea's disappearance. It hit me hard because of the experiences that I've had with a family member and a close friend of our family that both suffer from mental health issues. I really feel for this family.

I hope that Linnea is found safe.

[Psychic Sleuth]

I really think they need to step up the searches...and soon. Like I said before-take the family and their religious beliefs out of it. This girl needs to be found and evaluated by mental health professionals. If she is alive (God I hope she is) she may not stay that way for long if she's suffering from a severe mental illness.

[JDB]

The timeline certainly does clears up something's for me. We all heard about the 10 pounds she lost . But in the timeline looks like over 20 in less than a month. Stress will do that for sure I know when going through my divorce a longtime ago I lost 45 in a little over a month.

[C.Hound]

Originally Posted by Angels_Not_Forgotten

According to the timeline information, she was afraid she wasn't good enough or learning enough I guess i should say, and thought she was gonna fail two classes. In One of them she got an A minus. I've never been to any college classes (I take mine online). Is this normal? Meaning you don't find out what your grade is as you go along? I know in my courses I can see my average as each assignment is turned in.

Seems really odd she thought she would fall but did get an A. I guess it really doesn't matter, but that just stood out to me. Poor L.

Come home beautiful girl! Everyone misses you!

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Linnea may have intellectually known she was doing very well in the class but the symptoms of mental illness she was battling were sending her strong messages that this wasn't the case. Symptoms of depression, anxiety, OCD, and other mental health disorders often distort the facts, making it difficult for the person suffering from these illnesses to see situations accurately and realistically. So in Linnea's mind, she was failing when this actually wasn't the case.

IMO

[Angels_Not_Forgotten]

Originally Posted by C.Hound

Linnea may have intellectually known she was doing very well in the class but the symptoms of mental illness she was battling were sending her strong messages that this wasn't the case. Symptoms of depression, anxiety, OCD, and other mental health disorders often distort the facts, making it difficult for the person suffering from these illnesses to see situations accurately and realistically. So in Linnea's mind, she was failing when this actually wasn't the case.

IMO

That's sorta what I was thinking but didn't know if it was normal not to know a grade. To me though, like you said, it shows a lot of anxiousness. Poor baby....I hope she is found safe today

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[C.Hound]

Originally Posted by Angels_Not_Forgotten

That's sorta what I was thinking but didn't know if it was normal not to know a grade. To me though, like you said, it shows a lot of anxiousness. Poor baby....I hope she is found safe today

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Oops, sorry I misread your original post.

When I was in college, it was normal to know my current grade in a class. I also remember in one brutal case dropping a whole letter grade because of the weight the professor placed on the final exam. I was devastated and embarrassed to tell my parents because I felt I had failed them (they were paying my tuition).

[Quester]

RE Grades to a driven perfectionist:

"A" may mean good and "B" or anything else may mean "fail". ???

LL was said to have been a straight "A" student in high school.

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Originally Posted by JDB

The timeline certainly does clears up something's for me. We all heard about the 10 pounds she lost . But in the timeline looks like over 20 in less than a month. Stress will do that for sure I know when going through my divorce a longtime ago I lost 45 in a little over a month.

Apparently Sutter has an internist check inpatients but there is no mention of being seen by a medical doctor. I wonder about some underlying medical condition. My ex DIL lost a lot of weight (not that fast as far as I know) and was eventually diagnosed with MS.

[nursebeeme]

Originally Posted by time

Apparently Sutter has an internist check inpatients but there is no mention of being seen by a medical doctor. I wonder about some underlying medical condition. My ex DIL lost a lot of weight (not that fast as far as I know) and was eventually diagnosed with MS.

http://www.helpfindlinnea.org/timeline/


According to her family she saw her family doctor and was referred by him.
(re: underlying medical condition)

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Originally Posted by nursebeeme

http://www.helpfindlinnea.org/timeline/


According to her family she saw her family doctor and was referred by him.
(re: underlying medical condition)

Sorry, I missed it