Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #34

[possumheart]

Originally Posted by LollyPop

I've been reading with great fascination since early threads but have missed a few pages here and there so apologies if going over old ground. Have we heard anything about clothes GBC was wearing the night/morning of? Surely if blood was found in the car, there might also be blood on his clothes or shoes? He was pretty sure of what Allson was wearing when she "went missing" so can only assume he also knew exactly what he was wearing hat night? MOO

I expect he was wearing a white shirt with pink pinstripes, black pants, craaaaazy socks and black shoes topped off with a mustard corporate jacket and a few medals.

[possumheart]

Originally Posted by linette

It's asking me to subscribe?

Can't link the video on an iPhone with cold fingers

[Opinionsgalore]

Originally Posted by Bayside

Yeah I wondered the same, there is a pic of the BC parents and the way she holds him around the neck is real clingy.

I cant post it as I am on ipad, but it was a profile pic of theirs n facebook.

I thought the same thing !!
Just something about her (probably brought on by the granny pash) ......


This is MOO.

[ollijack]

Originally Posted by possumheart

I expect he was wearing a white shirt with pink pinstripes, black pants, craaaaazy socks and black shoes topped off with a mustard corporate jacket and a few medals.

Yep his medals for bravery integrity and all round nice bloke.

[BJsleuth]

Originally Posted by LollyPop

I've been reading with great fascination since early threads but have missed a few pages here and there so apologies if going over old ground. Have we heard anything about clothes GBC was wearing the night/morning of? Surely if blood was found in the car, there might also be blood on his clothes or shoes? He was pretty sure of what Allson was wearing when she "went missing" so can only assume he also knew exactly what he was wearing hat night? MOO

Good thinking! Surely it would be S.O.P for police to take those? I hope so!

[Crime and punishment]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ring-wife.html

Article from UK Daily Mail -interestingly states GBC last saw Allison when they went to sleep together.
Apologies if this has already done the rounds.

[J-Diggety]

Anyone got anything real?

Wish we had some meat, facts, getting bored of the soup.

[Mani]

Sorry if this offends some but seriously Squiz, do not explain yourself again.

If people want to believe what you said then they do , if you don't then that's their choice to disagree.
What I am trying to say is that you DO NOT have to try and convince anyone anymore.

I have no idea why I am protective of you but I just feel like sticking up for you. It's my own little leave squiz alone fan club : )

Originally posted by Curisousasacat

Curious - I was also protective of Squizzey when he first posted and even went so far as to pm him about stating too much info which could have compromised him.
So you are not alone in that arena.

I recently posted about the time of the person being at the bus stop changing - which I find confusing.

If anyone here posted one thing one day then an important fact such as a time was changed to something else on another day, it would create confusion here and people would ask questions.

I am not sure if your post was indirectly directed at what I was asking but as far as I am concerned, the times have changed and quite considerably - by hours; originally 11.30pm to the wee hours of the morning.

MOO

[Mani]

Originally Posted by possumheart

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mor...s-claim/story-
the case of the strange disappearing articles tonight

That link is broken Possumheart

[possumheart]

Originally Posted by Mani

That link is broken Possumheart

Irony

[Berry]

Originally Posted by pulpfiction

That may explain the extramarital activities too in the sense he's been trying to recoup the affection and attention he missed.

Exactly. Requires no conscience

Hello Pulp...what have you been verified as....cannot see you on the list yet buddy, so are you 'someone who is verified'.........

[ellou]

Originally Posted by BJsleuth

People are just means to an end for them right?

So very true my friend.

[Curiousasacat]

Originally Posted by Mani

Originally posted by Curisousasacat

Curious - I was also protective of Squizzey when he first posted and even went so far as to pm him about stating too much info which could have compromised him.
So you are not alone in that arena.

I recently posted about the time of the person being at the bus stop changing - which I find confusing.

If anyone here posted one thing one day then an important fact such as a time was changed to something else on another day, it would create confusion here and people would ask questions.

I am not sure if your post was indirectly directed at what I was asking but as far as I am concerned, the times have changed and quite considerably - by hours; originally 11.30pm to the wee hours of the morning.

MOO

Hey mani, Sorry, I knew there was one of 'us" that questioned the Squiz.
My point was that he has said what he knows but we keep pestering him about it. I must admit I did raise my eyebrows at the different times stated but I think the witness that Squiz knows so well would be in a bit of trouble for mentioning the time.
Just another piece of this confusing puzzle.

[Curiousasacat]

Some more spooky similarities in the Rayney case-

Mr Agius said Rayney had also lost $46,800 in one year gambling on anything from volleyball to the Logies and reality television show Dancing On Ice.

The prosecution alleges Ms Rayney believed her husband had a big secret and she was going to use information she had against him to keep custody of their children and their home after their divorce.

Snipped

The prosecution said Ms Rayney suffered fatal head, spinal and neck injuries before being dragged by the arms and feet to the back seat of her car and then being buried at Kings Park.

During the move, her bra collected soil, her hair picked up seed pods and fragments of paint in red brick dust particles were collected in scratches on her boots which provided "traces to indicate where she had been".

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...y-murder-trial

I feel we will be reading a similar news article. Oh in about 2-3 years!

[J-Diggety]

Originally Posted by ellou

No dout he did...

Proof?

[Maigret]

That is quite chilling about Rayney. Poor woman

[pulpfiction]

Originally Posted by BJsleuth

People are just means to an end for them right?

Sorry...totally fell asleep with iPad last night! Woke up cold with it still on my chest lol.

Yes, everyone serves a purpose for them if they engage with them. They aren't a type who just gets pleasure from "being" with others. There is motive in all their close or intimate dealings. However, if they are "dumped" it then you see you the absolute volcano eruption of emotions that has long been internalized and not expresses...and that is because they have lost "hand" ie. there perceived sense of power. When they lose that they are vulnerable and very, very dangerous. They panic and freak out often. Seen it in prison many times and it often fuels DV. Btw...I'm not the one in the cage haha.

[summer_breeze]

Last warning!

All avatar, food, etc. etc. conversation must go in the Chit Chat and Banter thread.

Timeouts will be issued for "off topic" posts such as avatars, food, etc. going forward.

[Fuskier]

Originally Posted by LollyPop

I've been reading with great fascination since early threads but have missed a few pages here and there so apologies if going over old ground. Have we heard anything about clothes GBC was wearing the night/morning of? Surely if blood was found in the car, there might also be blood on his clothes or shoes? He was pretty sure of what Allson was wearing when she "went missing" so can only assume he also knew exactly what he was wearing hat night? MOO

LOLLYPOP: Yes. Where are the clothes an shoes he was wearing that night? Surely there may be blood on them. This is what KEENTOKNOW and others were referring to early last Thread. Do we know if his clothes/shoes have been found/tested etc?

[Maigret]

A story of diligent police work and phone tapping
http://www.watoday.com.au/nsw/how-a-...623-20uw9.html

[Mani]

Originally Posted by Curiousasacat

Hey mani, Sorry, I knew there was one of 'us" that questioned the Squiz.
My point was that he has said what he knows but we keep pestering him about it. I must admit I did raise my eyebrows at the different times stated but I think the witness that Squiz knows so well would be in a bit of trouble for mentioning the time.
Just another piece of this confusing puzzle.

Ah Curious, that makes sense - thank you. I understand what you mean and thanks for pointing that out.

[Aunty]

Originally Posted by pulpfiction

Sorry...totally fell asleep with iPad last night! Woke up cold with it still on my chest lol.

Yes, everyone serves a purpose for them if they engage with them. They aren't a type who just gets pleasure from "being" with others. There is motive in all their close or intimate dealings. However, if they are "dumped" it then you see you the absolute volcano eruption of emotions that has long been internalized and not expresses...and that is because they have lost "hand" ie. there perceived sense of power. When they lose that they are vulnerable and very, very dangerous. They panic and freak out often. Seen it in prison many times and it often fuels DV. Btw...I'm not the one in the cage haha.

Pulp, You know so much about this personality type.
I wish I had someone like you to explain how dangerous this personality was, when I was struggling in my marriage. I stayed because I didn't understand it. I had never known that a person could hate me that much.
Knowledge is power, and this knowledge wasn't available to me when I sought it. I did seek it but couldn't get a disorder confirmed.
Love your work and every word you write here. xxxxxooooo
You are a powerful voice here , please keep it up. Love you xxxx

[linette]

Originally Posted by ellou

Your way with words ,reminds me of a place I have once been .You sound like "my" special person ,my shrink that is ,that I needed once,when my life,was so very messed up.
Oh, not really just once.Try 6 days a weekfor many many years ....I am all healed now.
Long process though.
The man I married ,nearly destroyed me ,and yes he tried too make up for affection ,or lack of through,lackof guidance ,parenting,love and affection.
His father had no time for him ,abusive ,wandering eye ,controlled ,abused his mumma,along with he and his brother,favoured the daughter .
I had 4 children with this man,and he hated my guts,because of how I was raised.
Everything was always my fault..He hated me ,my father did love me ,my Mumma did care for my sister and I .Sometime on nights ,when I can't sleep ,I think I could have been Allison,if I had not found the special person that,helped me break free.
I think Allison was ready too break free.
I think maybe that was why she and Gerrad were seeing a therapist,she wanted out ,....and wanted too make sure the transition was as easy as it,could be for their girls.
If he is the way I think he is ,he doesn't like too lose,there are people that won't stop at ripping lives in half,tearing families,children and hearts in two

My experience was very similar, and I also found someone who helped us get away from it... and I am glad that you got away, time helps the healing doesn't it?
GBC strikes me as someone who {IMO} may not have been violent all the time, maybe not at all, but could have been very strong on the controlling and emotional abuse. The emotional abuse is the one that wears you down, and there's no bruises or scars to prove at exists.
The fact that he has had affairs etc shows that he had little respect for his wife and daughters. I know, not everyone who has an affair is a bad person, but this guy is a repeat offender. He seems to hold himself in high regard. All about him. Allsion may not have feared for her life that night until it actually happened. She may have been use to the anger and arrogance and threats, but even she may not have thought he would ever take things to that extreme.

[CouchCop]

Thanks to Marlywings and Doc Watson for clarifying matters regarding pinging and ponging of phones. Wow, it's incredible! Big Brother should be renamed Giant Brother!!! I would imagine that phone records will serve an enormous role (even if largely for "circumstantial" purposes) in any forthcoming trial. Just think, the locations of sleezy rendezvous will all come out in the open, but more importantly, information about the movements of the GBC/NBC/OW phones on that tragic night.

[Gemini Girl]

Originally Posted by Curiousasacat

Some more spooky similarities in the Rayney case-

Mr Agius said Rayney had also lost $46,800 in one year gambling on anything from volleyball to the Logies and reality television show Dancing On Ice.

The prosecution alleges Ms Rayney believed her husband had a big secret and she was going to use information she had against him to keep custody of their children and their home after their divorce.

Snipped

The prosecution said Ms Rayney suffered fatal head, spinal and neck injuries before being dragged by the arms and feet to the back seat of her car and then being buried at Kings Park.

During the move, her bra collected soil, her hair picked up seed pods and fragments of paint in red brick dust particles were collected in scratches on her boots which provided "traces to indicate where she had been".

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...y-murder-trial

I feel we will be reading a similar news article. Oh in about 2-3 years!

Hi all, Kimster/Summer Breeze, I wonder if we need a new "Corryn Rayney" or "Lloyd Rayney Trial" thread created. As this trial proceeds (started yesterday in Perth) suspect it will come up more and more frequently in discussion.

Just a thought



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