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Old 07-17-2012, 08:13 PM
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What kind of sick muthafkkkkk are these? My heart cries for the victims.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:20 PM
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Hopeful this is all. This is most likely the 2 more that LE said was coming, or was it 2 more after DW?
LE said on the local news that not all of the perps. are from the family, so I think there will be atleast one more.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:23 PM
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Incest against Holland, Kent and Randall Wood. No incest charges against Derek Wood. So the some of the victims are blood related to the first 3? Kent and Randall Wood have no blood relationship and are only related by marriage as brother in laws correct? Kent is married to Randall Wood's sister? And Derek Wood is a nephew from another sister? And Holland is a nephew from yet another sister? Making Derek and Holland Jr cousins?

I'm just trying to get this family link straightened out in my head!!!
I believe Holland Jr is from Holland Sr's first marriage, so not a son of a sister. But everything else you state looks accurate. Yes, this is confirmed by the player's list from Brittney's thread.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:25 PM
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I am so sad and sickened. Just for those of you who are just now learning about all this, LE said from the beginning that the crime(s) were "horrific" and the first two arrests (DK and RSW) were just the "tip of the iceberg".
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:26 PM
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I guess this is (uncle) Donnie Holland's son? Age 20


HOLLAND, DONALD PAUL (W / MALE)
Status: In Jail
Booking No: BCSO12JBN004708
Booking Date: 07/17/2012 17:02:39
Age On Booking Date: 20
Bond Amount: $20000.00
CELL Assigned:
Facility: BCSO , Dorm: D , Pod: D , Cell No: 005 Visitation Schedule
Address Given: 912 VAN AVE DAPHNE AL



https://www.facebook.com/paul.n.holland
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Why in the heck is his bond so low when he's obviously a risk - he skipped bond on a prior arrest...

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http://blog.al.com/pr-records/2011/0...mobRedir=false

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Fairhope police reports: August 15-19, 2011

Aug. 17, Donald Paul Holland Jr., of Fairhope was arrested on a failure to appear warrant for a bail-jumping misdemeanor. The arrest was made in the 100 block of North Section Street.

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Old 07-17-2012, 08:27 PM
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Who all was on that Thanksgiving trip last year where we saw DH's random pictures of bikini clad women? Wasn't there also a remark about a big family fight during or afterward and again about family taking sides? Do all of these current charges and the 4 month long child abuse investigation into DH stem from that Thanksgiving trip?

Ugly, ugly, ugly case!
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:27 PM
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I am stunned that the disappearance and this case ARENT related.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:33 PM
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This is just unreal! I just don't know if it was some type of child porn ring or a one time incident or what? I'm leaning toward the child porn stuff. Big money in that sadly. This is so heartbreaking and disgusting.

Was Holland Sr ever charged with anything?
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:33 PM
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LE said on the local news that not all of the perps. are from the family, so I think there will be atleast one more.
I'm waiting for one of the wives to be arrested. I don't believe for one minute that they didn't know what was going on. It's all so sordid.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:35 PM
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I'm very curious of Derek's arrest. It doesn't fit his mo. I looked up second degree & this is what it states:

http://www.houseofruthdothan.org/rapelaws.htm

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Section 13A-6-62
Rape in the second degree.
A male commits the crime of rape in the second degree if:
Being 16 years old or older, he engages in sexual intercourse with a female less than 16 and more than 12 years old; provided, however, the actor is at least two years older than the female.
He engages in sexual intercourse with a female who is incapable of consent by reason of being mentally defective.

Rape in the second degree is a Class B felony.
(Acts 1977, No. 607, p. 812, §2311; Acts 1979, No. 79-471, p. 862, §1; Acts 1987, No. 87-607, p. 1056, §2.)

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Section 13A-6-64
Sodomy in the second degree.
A person commits the crime of sodomy in the second degree if:
He, being 16 years old or older, engages in deviate sexual intercourse with another person less than 16 and more than 12 years old.
He engages in deviate sexual intercourse with a person who is incapable of consent by reason of being mentally defective.

Sodomy in the second degree is a Class B felony.
(Acts 1977, No. 607, p. 812, §2316; Acts 1979, No. 79-471, p. 862, §1; Acts 1987, No. 87-607, p. 1056, §3.)


So, I'm wondering if maybe he could have been 16 or 17, maybe was seeing a non blood relative that was 14 or 15...

FYI- sodomy has various forms, just like oral sex, and is extremely popular amongst the younger population these days - they have this ridiculous attitude about it bc they can't get preggers that way. Stupid, though, when considering the diseases that are still spread.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:36 PM
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Who all was on that Thanksgiving trip last year where we saw DH's random pictures of bikini clad women? Wasn't there also a remark about a big family fight during or afterward and again about family taking sides? Do all of these current charges and the 4 month long child abuse investigation into DH stem from that Thanksgiving trip?

Ugly, ugly, ugly case!
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:37 PM
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This is just unreal! I just don't know if it was some type of child porn ring or a one time incident or what? I'm leaning toward the child porn stuff. Big money in that sadly. This is so heartbreaking and disgusting.

Was Holland Sr ever charged with anything?
The day Donald committed suicide was the day he was to meet with investigators. His investigation had been ongoing for about 4 months.
He was not living in the house in Fairhope with his children and was staying at a place near Styx River.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:41 PM
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FYI for the newcomers not yet familiar, there's tons of info in Brittney Wood's threads. We have tons of links to most social media sites, news articles, arrest records & mugshots, etc. I'm on my way to FL, otherwise I'd pull them all & bring them here. If somebody has them in their notes online, pls attach them here so we can be thorough. If not, I'll volunteer to do it later or tomorrow night if I get a chance.

To the newbies going over Britt's threads before coming here - grab a box of tissues & make sure ya have a glass of water bc you're sure gonna have a dry mouth from forgetting to pick your mouths up from the floor. Literally.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:43 PM
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I'm waiting for one of the wives to be arrested. I don't believe for one minute that they didn't know what was going on. It's all so sordid.
Me too. Hopefully.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:44 PM
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I believe Holland Jr is from Holland Sr's first marriage, so not a son of a sister. But everything else you state looks accurate. Yes, this is confirmed by the player's list from Brittney's thread.
Right, he is Uncle Donnie's son.
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That's where it's a puzzle. Originally, Derek did have an incest charge but it was dropped.
And originally, Dustin did not have an incest charge on his June arrest record, but on his 2nd arrest this week, incest is now a charge on him.
The incest charge on Derek was immediately deleted from his jail record but he's always stayed in custody.
Dustin's June arrest record is still available online but he also bonded out. So I wasn't sure whether both sets of charges are outstanding, if the records are more custody receipts so the new charges replace the old charges but both still show. Or what.

http://bcsonline.co.baldwin.al.us/smartweb/jail.aspx
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:49 PM
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I am stunned that the disappearance and this case ARENT related.
Me too, especially considering who gave Donnie the gun he killed himself with.

I'm honestly thinking maybe le is saying publicly it's not related just in case Brittney is still alive but afraid to come home. Maybe?
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:50 PM
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Yeah, I peeked in on Brittneys thread a while back, clicked one of the family member's social media sites, and was reading it... Will definitely have to go back and try to catch up.

There is no way that ultimately, BWs disappearance isn't tied to this investigation somehow. Even if she isn't one of the victims in these charges, perhaps she was once a victim? Maybe she found out info and someone silenced her? Some other scenario? Who knows, but this seems too damn big to be completely unrelated.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:51 PM
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That's where it's a puzzle. Originally, Derek did have an incest charge but it was dropped.
And originally, Dustin did not have an incest charge on his June arrest record, but on his 2nd arrest this week, incest is now a charge on him.
The incest charge on Derek was immediately deleted from his jail record but he's always stayed in custody.
Dustin's June arrest record is still available online but he also bonded out. So I wasn't sure whether both sets of charges are outstanding, if the records are more custody receipts so the new charges replace the old charges but both still show. Or what.

http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/loca...arrested-again

Dustin Kent has been arrested for a second time by the Baldwin County Sheriff's Office, charged with sex crimes on a second victim.

Derek's original bond was set at $25,000. After the incest charge was removed, the bond went to $100,000.
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What a sick bunch of uncle cousin brothers. Can you imagine growing up a little girl in that nest of vipers?

Wait.....Was it ever stated that the victims were all female? For some reason, I want to think they are. Maybe I had better go back and read more.....
It may be the little boys that are at risk here. It was said in the Brittney Wood thread that her brother, who is one of the perps, is also a victim!
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http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/loca...arrested-again

Dustin Kent has been arrested for a second time by the Baldwin County Sheriff's Office, charged with sex crimes on a second victim.

Derek's original bond was set at $25,000. After the incest charge was removed, the bond went to $100,000.
Thanks for clearing that up. So both sets of charges are valid.
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It may be the little boys that are at risk here. It was said in the Brittney Wood thread that her brother, who is one of the perps, is also a victim!
Also, the incest charge against DK was added after they questioned his nephew, Derek!

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On the re-arrest on Dustin. I wonder if another victim came forward or perhaps LE confiscated some video tapes or one of the other players talked?

I can't help but think that in some way the two younger men were victims themselves of the older men.

I mean how the he!! do family members decide to do something like this? They were having a family BBQ one day and just brought it up over dinner? I mean how does this come about? If you include Holland Sr there are 4 brother in laws involved in this and it just blows me away! Sure some people are sick...but all 4 brother in laws??? I wonder if one started it and slowly starting bringing the other ones in? We these men desperate for money? I have no idea what all their financial situations were? God help us if the women were involved too!!
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http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/loca...arrested-again

Dustin Kent has been arrested for a second time by the Baldwin County Sheriff's Office, charged with sex crimes on a second victim.

Derek's original bond was set at $25,000. After the incest charge was removed, the bond went to $100,000.
So another victim that is obviously blood related to Kent? Ugh!! I truly wonder just how many victims there are. I don't think it's just a couple.
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Also, the incest charge against DK was added after they questioned his nephew, Derek!
Good point! And if Derek said Uncle Dustin used to molest him?
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