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Old 07-20-2012, 10:11 AM
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http://www.9news.com/video/default.a...id=65071045001

the live stream just said the earliest the guy may be in court is next week...


how horrible!!! Just heard this news...
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:13 AM
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live stream just said that there will be a prayer vigil at the municipal building tonight at 7pm (government official talking now to the reporter)
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:13 AM
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Did I hear a witness just say on the news from that area
(sorry lost the feed, it was posted here upstream)

That one person got up like to answer the phone, went up front not towards back like normally you would do to answer phone after he was out of site the gunman burst in wearing all black and let off the tear gas bomb?

My question here is there (2) person involved? One still at large (unknown)?
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:14 AM
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okay.. her name: Rhonda Fields

children's hospital update: they got 6 victims 1 child and 5 adults conditions range from good to critical
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:14 AM
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I just heard on CBS that the Bomb Squad believes his apartment is booby trapped.

President Obama is going to speak about this at 8:20 pt.

I'm surprised, like someone else already stated, that there is no one coming out saying they knew him. That is really weird, imo. Maybe they are commenting on news stations sites?!?
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Yet they get their facts right much of the time and more quickly then a lot of American papers. I've also gotten stuff from them that wasn't yet seen in American papers. My college has no problem with it being a source...it is also allowed here. It is definitely not a total tabloid.

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The DM is a UK paper and is generally a trusted source of information. The biggest problem that people have with it here is because of its politics- very conserative and commonly known as the Daily Facist in these parts.
There was also some unpleasant business prior to WW2
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:15 AM
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Have we found a facebook for James Holmes of Aurora?
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:16 AM
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They just had an interview with a guy named Corbin (His friend Jennifer was interviewed earlier, saying the gunman pointed to gun right at her head.) on KUSA Live Feed http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx .

He was in the 2nd row by the exit that the gunman came in. He said that a guy in front of him got a call before this happened. He went to the exit, which Corbin thought was strange because most people would go to the lobby for calls, but the guy opened the exit door and looked around, stood by the door for a bit, and then came back and sat down. A little later the gunman entered the theater at that exit door.

Are they 100% certain that this gunman acted alone?

I have worked for movie theaters for many years in the past and those doors are kept locked from the outside, but are able to be opened form the inside.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:17 AM
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Did I hear a witness just say on the news from that area
(sorry lost the feed, it was posted here upstream)

That one person got up like to answer the phone, went up front not towards back like normally you would do to answer phone after he was out of site the gunman burst in wearing all black and let off the tear gas bomb?

My question here is there (2) person involved? One still at large (unknown)?
I heard that too! It does make you wonder.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:18 AM
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obama speaking at 9:20? from florida... he cancelled an event he was going to go to
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He seems to have been involved with weaponry for at least 7 years, lots of experience/connections I am sure.
Lava, Where did you hear this info?
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:19 AM
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Did I hear a witness just say on the news from that area
(sorry lost the feed, it was posted here upstream)

That one person got up like to answer the phone, went up front not towards back like normally you would do to answer phone after he was out of site the gunman burst in wearing all black and let off the tear gas bomb?

My question here is there (2) person involved? One still at large (unknown)?
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They just had an interview with a guy named Corbin (His friend Jennifer was interviewed earlier, saying the gunman pointed to gun right at her head.) on KUSA Live Feed http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx .



He was in the 2nd row by the exit that the gunman came in. He said that a guy in front of him got a call before this happened. He went to the exit, which Corbin thought was strange because most people would go to the lobby for calls, but the guy opened the exit door and looked around, stood by the door for a bit, and then came back and sat down. A little later the gunman entered the theater at that exit door.

Are they 100% certain that this gunman acted alone?

I have worked for movie theaters for many years in the past and those doors are kept locked from the outside, but are able to be opened form the inside.
Thanks Holly this is the one I was talking about.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:19 AM
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They just had an interview with a guy named Corbin (His friend Jennifer was interviewed earlier, saying the gunman pointed to gun right at her head.) on KUSA Live Feed http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx .

He was in the 2nd row by the exit that the gunman came in. He said that a guy in front of him got a call before this happened. He went to the exit, which Corbin thought was strange because most people would go to the lobby for calls, but the guy opened the exit door and looked around, stood by the door for a bit, and then came back and sat down. A little later the gunman entered the theater at that exit door.

Are they 100% certain that this gunman acted alone?

I have worked for movie theaters for many years in the past and those doors are kept locked from the outside, but are able to be opened form the inside.
There were also some twitter rumors that before the movie started someone in the theater got a phone call and left through the exit, leaving it open.

There is also a rumor that someone with a handgun was seen leaving the theater in a red car.

There is also a post on 4Chan claiming to be the second person, threatening suicide.

(all links can be found in my previous comment, timeline part 2)
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I woke up to our dog barking last night and then saw my cell blinking with a scanner alert. I woke dh up when I heard what was going on. We never did go back to bed... We grew up in CO and have lots of friends and family there still. It is horrific to think that there are so few places in this world that are safe anymore. I don't have a link for this but I am sure there will be one eventually- several police officers and citizens transported victims in their own cars to emergency rooms. So so sad.

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Lava, Where did you hear this info?
In my timeline post above there are links to some online profiles of his. Nothings telling, just gun sites.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:19 AM
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Sorry - jumping in blind as I just heard the news! omg, what is going on!!?!?! Toronto just had their worst shooting ever this past week also!

Explosion at 'booby-trapped' apartment of lone wolf killer James Holmes, 24, as his mother says 'you've got the right man'
July 20, 2012

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz21AkyQIAt
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There were also some twitter rumors that before the movie started someone in the theater got a phone call and left through the exit, leaving it open.

There is also a rumor that someone with a handgun was seen leaving the theater in a red car.

There is also a post on 4Chan claiming to be the second person, threatening suicide.

(all links can be found in my previous comment, timeline part 2)
we have to be very careful about posting rumors. We need to stick to the facts/what is being reported on.
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I believe his fb page was found but then taken down, iirc.

I wish we knew who that guy was who took that phone call at the emergency exit. Very strange place to take a call.
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Gunman kills 12 in CO theatre *MERGED*

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/col...ing/index.html

"A heavily armed gunman attacked an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater early Friday, tossing tear gas before opening fire on the terrified audience and killing 12 and wounding 38, authorities said. The theater was showing the new Batman movie, "The Dark Knight Rises."
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This is a really good comprehensive timeline, including witness accounts of redditors, it is being updated:

http://www.***********/r/news/comment...rora_massacre/

Part 2: http://www.***********/r/news/comment...rora_massacre/
Bumping up Lava's link for everyone.

Thanks for finding this Lava! You rock!
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I just really want to know why he did this????
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I wonder where his mom is from? Tennessee?

This is him James E Holmes and his relatives in Dan Diego.
So far I can't find any listing of him in Colorado.



People Search: HOLMES, JAMES born 12/13/1987

1 Match Found (100 max.)

1. HOLMES, JAMES E (Age 24)
SAN DIEGO, CA

Possible Relatives:

HOLMES, ROBERT M (Age 61)
HOLMES, ARLENE ROSEMARY (Age 58)


FYI, There is also another James E Holmes in Aurora, CO,
BUT he is born 1945, so that is NOT our guy:
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Just woke up and have been reading everything I can find on MSM, before it occurred to me to come here, bc you guys would be on top of it. This one hits really close to home for me. I lived almost a decade in Boulder and have friends in Aurora. I have been to that theater. And, when I was younger (ie before kid), I would have been at that midnight showing. I have been trying to contact my friends all morning, but haven't heard back.

Things like this make me fearful to even go out! Those poor people. His poor family. Everything, just...so sad.
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In my timeline post above there are links to some online profiles of his. Nothings telling, just gun sites.

While that timeline may turn out to be true, I found this odd that only 12 minutes into ordeal this was posted
http://www.***********/r/news/comment...rora_massacre/



1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." Fatalities.



and no where since has there been any mention of race involved.
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While that timeline may turn out to be true, I found this odd that only 12 minutes into ordeal this was posted
http://www.***********/r/news/comment...rora_massacre/
1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." Fatalities.


and no where since has there been any mention of race involved.
Black is code for "dead"
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