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Old 07-31-2012, 07:07 PM
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I think it's unfair to judge the prosecution team based on one day of trial. First of all, the way a trial goes is largely due to the judge's rulings. A team can only discuss what is allowed by the judge. If the judge says NO then that's that, unless you take a motion up the chain to an appeal court.

What mistakes has the prosecution team made so far?

If they did something wrong in the months, weeks and days leading up to the trial, then that's a whole other matter. I don't know the history of the state on prepping this case.
Oh honey, I know what you say is true, I think I am just disheartened that the prosecution didn't start out with making a few points. The updates seem as if all they did was keep hitting walls.

I am letting my emotions get in the way and I know it. I just want to see justice for Kathleen.
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States Attorney not making any comments today. #DrewPeterson


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Judge: 'that concludes evidence for today, we'll resume at 9am tomorrow' #DrewPeterson



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To recap: Assistant State's Attrny Kathy Patton questioning Peterson/Savio neighbor & good friend Mary #DrewPeterson

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In rebuttal, Pros. asking about towels in bathroom again. #DrewPeterson

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Pontarelli called back to stand. #DrewPetersondiane pathieu‏@dianepathieu

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Cross-examination over. Jury asked to step out AGAIN. This makes 4 times.


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Pontarelli didn't allow son Nick - who was one of the last people to see Savio alive- speak to police that night #DrewPeterson


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'so you don't remember talking to Bolingbrook Police that night' -defense

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Pontarelli says she can't remember parts of what she told Bolingbrook Police- now says she can't recall all of the interviews w/detectives.

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Pontarelli confirms #DrewPeterson was visibly upset when they found Savio: said 'what am I going to tell my kids'

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Defense asking again about scene, specifically about a blue towel she claims was not there. #DrewPeterson

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Pontarelli says she never saw basket of towels in bathroom when she found her friend- defense shows pic of crime scene w/basket of towels.


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They are taking moments, short moments off, then asking about what was in the bathroom where Savio was found. #DrewPeterson


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Pontarelli still on stand saying Savio always put her hair in a clip before bathing and her hair was found down when she was found, no clip.

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We are back, 15mins in, discussing room around Savios body. Closets, space, etc. #DrewPeterson
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Pontarelli recalling last moments & phone calls made before discovering Savio in the tub. #DrewPeterson

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Defense to witness:' You saw nothing unusual that night' "right" #DrewPeterson

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
@Tammybaby65 Saw light night before, midnight- the next day- same light was off.

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Defense says Pontarelli's son Nick was "a little too close" to kathleen savios
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As far as Pontarelli knows, her son Nick saw Kathleen Savio alive last. #DrewPeterson

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Pontarelli saw a light on at Savios home but taught she must have been studing. #DrewPeterson

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Defense: "kathy was no pushover... she would fight back, right?" Witness: yes #DrewPeterson

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Defense asking witness about 'arguing' between Drew & Kathleen.

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Defense asking about Italian connection among neighbors & how friendly neighbors were. #DrewPeterson

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Cross examination started. #DrewPeterson




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Old 07-31-2012, 07:20 PM
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This is a very tough case and the pros do have an uphill battle because a lot of it is based on hearsay and autopsy reports (5 years later!) I think they will prevail in the end and Kathleen will get justice and in a way so will Stacy.

Fingers crossed!
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Oh honey, I know what you say is true, I think I am just disheartened that the prosecution didn't start out with making a few points. The updates seem as if all they did was keep hitting walls.

I am letting my emotions get in the way and I know it. I just want to see justice for Kathleen.
The state tried to make several points and bring in some evidence, the defense objected and the judge sustained the objections. What would you have the state's team do in that situation?
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Anonymous letter to Savio informing her that Drew Peterson was cheating on her.


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Old 07-31-2012, 08:33 PM
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The state tried to make several points and bring in some evidence, the defense objected and the judge sustained the objections. What would you have the state's team do in that situation?
I guess if I had said I would have done differently I might understand your asking me that, but I only stated that I wished the prosecution had made a few points instead of hitting walls. Sorry if you took that otherwise than intended.
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I wish the judge had allowed the prosecution to put in some of the evidence that would have made a few points and connections, instead of the team having their hands tied.
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I wish Stacy to be found and DP to go down.

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I watched part of Nancy Grace with Rita Cosby filling in for Nancy, but no new info than what's been shared here.

Dr. Drew came on and he had Mark Garagoes on and of course Mark says the prosecution has no case. Peterson attorney, Steve Greenberg, was also on and agreed. There was a prosecution attorney (didn't catch his name) who argued that there's a lot of evidence that will come in and it's the accumulation of all this evidence, when put together, that will convict Drew Peterson.

One thing about today's court proceedings that caught me by surprise is the mention that Drew offered a co-worker $25,000 to kill Kathleen. I don't remember ever hearing about that before. Is this something that's just now being released publicly? Are we to assume the co-worker would be a Bolingbrook police officer? I would think this would be extremely relevant, but I guess it goes to "prior bad acts."
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:21 PM
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His 3 mouthy lawyers out trashing KS at lunch break. She was mean, bossy, had to have her way, etc. GMAB.


Don't they realize how ridiculous they sound?

This trial is going to really get my blood pressure up, I can tell.

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After watching every moment of the Anthony trial and it's disgusting outcome, I really am worried about Peterson's trial. And I totally agree with you about blood pressure...mine is way up right now. I may get to the point where I cannot read any more, and just wait for the verdict. The darn judge keeps taking away everything the prosecution has.

If DP walks, maybe Bolingbrook can elect him mayor....after all, DP is such a wonderful, conscientious, former policeman who has never done anything wrong. *sarcasm intended* At least that is how he is coming off to the jury since Burmilla won't let anything negative about him in.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:38 PM
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I don't think the state is botching it. They were just unlucky enough to get a pro-defense judge. They came to the trial with some great ammo, but none of it is being allowed in.

It feels to me like the judge is worried that if the state wins, the case will be turned around on appeals later on. He wants to protect his reputation and his percentages. imo. So he is nixing any possible thing the defense could appeal the verdict with. And since the prosecution cannot appeal a verdict, he is safe.
Bold mine.

Can we say Judge Perry?
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States Attorney not making any comments today. #DrewPeterson


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Judge: 'that concludes evidence for today, we'll resume at 9am tomorrow' #DrewPeterson



diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
To recap: Assistant State's Attrny Kathy Patton questioning Peterson/Savio neighbor & good friend Mary #DrewPeterson

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
In rebuttal, Pros. asking about towels in bathroom again. #DrewPeterson

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Pontarelli called back to stand. #DrewPetersondiane pathieu‏@dianepathieu

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Cross-examination over. Jury asked to step out AGAIN. This makes 4 times.


diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Pontarelli didn't allow son Nick - who was one of the last people to see Savio alive- speak to police that night #DrewPeterson


diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
'so you don't remember talking to Bolingbrook Police that night' -defense

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Pontarelli says she can't remember parts of what she told Bolingbrook Police- now says she can't recall all of the interviews w/detectives.

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Pontarelli confirms #DrewPeterson was visibly upset when they found Savio: said 'what am I going to tell my kids'

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Defense asking again about scene, specifically about a blue towel she claims was not there. #DrewPeterson

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Pontarelli says she never saw basket of towels in bathroom when she found her friend- defense shows pic of crime scene w/basket of towels.


diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
They are taking moments, short moments off, then asking about what was in the bathroom where Savio was found. #DrewPeterson


diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Pontarelli still on stand saying Savio always put her hair in a clip before bathing and her hair was found down when she was found, no clip.

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
We are back, 15mins in, discussing room around Savios body. Closets, space, etc. #DrewPeterson
diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu


diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Pontarelli recalling last moments & phone calls made before discovering Savio in the tub. #DrewPeterson

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Defense to witness:' You saw nothing unusual that night' "right" #DrewPeterson

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
@Tammybaby65 Saw light night before, midnight- the next day- same light was off.

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Defense says Pontarelli's son Nick was "a little too close" to kathleen savios
diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu

As far as Pontarelli knows, her son Nick saw Kathleen Savio alive last. #DrewPeterson

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Pontarelli saw a light on at Savios home but taught she must have been studing. #DrewPeterson

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Defense: "kathy was no pushover... she would fight back, right?" Witness: yes #DrewPeterson

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Defense asking witness about 'arguing' between Drew & Kathleen.

diane pathieu‏@dianepathieu
Defense asking about Italian connection among neighbors & how friendly neighbors were. #DrewPeterson

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Cross examination started. #DrewPeterson




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Bold red mine.

Is the defense trying to imply that 14 yr. old Nick P. was having a sexual relationship with Kathleen? Good GAWD!
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:56 AM
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Defense implying or outright saying that the bruising on KS body was from rough sex w/ her boyfriend. HTH would THEY know that? Also, how is saying she had sex that w/e with
her boyfriend relevant to the case, except to establish the boyfriend was with her?
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One thing about today's court proceedings that caught me by surprise is the mention that Drew offered a co-worker $25,000 to kill Kathleen. I don't remember ever hearing about that before. Is this something that's just now being released publicly? Are we to assume the co-worker would be a Bolingbrook police officer? I would think this would be extremely relevant, but I guess it goes to "prior bad acts."
It isn't new. The hitman was revealed during the Hearsay Hearings.

The guys name is Jeff Patcher. 1/28/10 he testified that Drew asked him to find someone who could take care of his wife (because iirc, Jeff said he wasn't able to kill anyone).
Anyways, here is one of the captures:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m...rent=008-3.jpg

ETA- Here's a vid that explains what happened:



And-- there is a wealth of info in the Hearsay Hearings archive, here:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m...Murder%20Case/
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It isn't new. The hitman was revealed during the Hearsay Hearings.

The guys name is Jeff Patcher. 1/28/10 he testified that Drew asked him to find someone who could take care of his wife (because iirc, Jeff said he wasn't able to kill anyone).
Anyways, here is one of the captures:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m...rent=008-3.jpg

ETA- Here's a vid that explains what happened:
Hearsay Hearing - The Savio Murder Case :: 1/28/10 video by crankycrankerson - Photobucket



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Thanks AmandaReckonwith! I was here for the hearsay hearings and I guess I must have forgotten completely about the money offer. I do wish this evidence could come in.................but know that it likely does fall under the "prior bad acts."
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I have followed this from the beginning and I just have to believe this country has learned something from the Anthony case.

I have faith in the jury, I just have to. I think they will see Drew for the person he is and we will have justice.
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Thanks so much for the updates, everyone. I have been very busy for the last several days. I have been on pins and needles waiting for this trial to begin!

I have just got to believe that this jury does not want to become another Pinellas 12. This jury will at least review the evidence, IMO, and try very hard to do the right thing.

The most powerful thing in the trial is going to be Kathleen's own words as said to others and her words on paper. It ain't over 'till it's over!

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I can understand why " prior bad acts " are not admissible because their not relevant to the case, but isn't this particular "bad act" relevant to this case?
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In Session When court reconvenes at 10a ET, the State's next witnesses are expected to be Tom Pontarelli, Kathleen Savio's neighbor and husband of witness Mary Pontarelli, and two locksmiths who were involved in opening Savio's door @ Peterson's request.
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#drewpeterson : after Pontarelli, State is expected to call 2 locksmiths that DP contacted about opening #KathleenSavio's front door.
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In Session here is some info on the prosecution's first witness, Mary Pontarelli who testified yesterday: Prosecution Witness #1) MARY PONTARELLI (next-door neighbor and close friend of drowning victim Kathleen Savio)
* Became friends with Drew and Kathleen Savio Peterson when the Petersons moved next door in 1997. She was especially close to Kathleen. “We seen [sic] each other almost every day.”
* Recalled how the Petersons split up after Kathleen learned that Drew was having an affair with Stacy Cales.
* After Drew Peterson moved out, Kathleen had a deadbolt lock installed on her bedroom door.
* Last saw Savio on the afternoon of Saturday, February 28, 2004. “She said that she had a great week at school . . . she was studying to become a nurse.” Said that Savio told her she was going to stay home that night and study.
* Saw Savio’s bedroom light was still on when she and her husband returned home from a party that night around midnight.
* On Monday, evening (March 1), she received a call from Drew Peterson. “He said he’d tried to bring the kids back, but Kathleen still wasn’t home . . . he asked me if he got a locksmith if I would go in the house with him.”
* After unsuccessfully trying to reach Savio by phone, Mrs. Pontarelli agreed to go along with Drew Peterson’s plan. “I went outside; the locksmith was already working on the door.”
* Once the front door was open, Pontarelli went upstairs with another neighbor, Steve Cancerano. “He [Peterson] was still down by the bottom of the steps.”
* After she and Cancerano entered Savio’s bedroom, Cancerano headed toward the master bathroom. “He called out my name, I went into the bathroom, and seen [sic] Kathy in the tub. I ran out of the bathroom, threw myself down, and started screaming.”
* Described injuries she noted on Savio’s body. “She had a cut in her head . . . there was dried blood in her hair . . . then I noticed some bruising on her wrists and on her buttocks. She also had some blood coming out of her nose.”
* After she screamed, her husband, her son, and Peterson came running up to the bathroom. “Drew did take her pulse. I said, ‘Is the dead?’ And he said, ‘Yes, Mary, she is.’”
* Pontarelli’s first impulse was to drape something over Savio’s body. But Peterson told that she shouldn’t.
* Described the Peterson/Savio divorce as “bitter” . . . but acknowledged that as time went on “it seemed that they were getting along better.”
* Agreed that Kathleen Savio could be “tough . . . I wouldn’t call her bossy . . . she had strong passions.”
* Doesn’t recall seeing a robe or any clothing near Savio’s bathtub. However, she acknowledged that a photo of the scene seems to show a blue robe inside the room.
* Peterson was in uniform on the night in question. But when he rushed up the stairs and into the bathroom as a result of Pontarelli’s scream, he did not have his gun drawn.
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