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Greece: Father Christiaan Kappes missing: family fears for his life
folks this is a strange one and the below link has a ton of information. here are a few snips:
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An Indiana priest has disappeared in Greece, and his family tells Fox59 News that they believe he’s in serious danger or maybe even dead.
Father Christiaan Kappes, a Franklin, Ind., native and priest for the Indianapolis Archdiocese, began pursuing doctoral studies in Athens, Greece, on behalf of the Vatican three years ago. Three days ago, Father Kappes called his family to tell them that he was trying to escape the country with his translator.
"He told my dad on Monday, ‘If you don't hear from me in 12 to 24 hours, I'm dead,” said Nadia Charcap, Father Kappes’ sister.
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translator money at the core?
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"He said that her family is out to get the money that she inherited and they are going to stop at nothing to hurt her in order to get this money," Charcap said. "I asked him if he thought his life was in danger, if he thought anything was amiss and he was like, 'No they're just a bunch of thugs.'"
Father Kappes reportedly told his family that he was trying to make sure Lekakou remained safe. Early Monday morning, they received another call from him saying someone had threatened to kill Lekakou and that he believed he was also a target.
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so he goes to the embassy:
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Virgil Kappes said he told his son to go to the United States Embassy. Father Kappes reportedly made it to the Embassy and called his family again.
"He told me if he left the embassy, they're watching him, they're there, 'they're going to take me,'” Virgil Kappas said. “And the Embassy did nothing."
Charcap said her brother told her his only choice was to try to escape.
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then someone drives them to the airport
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Virgil Kappes told Fox59 that he spoke to a priest in Greece who reportedly dropped off his son and Lekakou at the Athens airport. The family said they were both planning to fly to Indianapolis on separate flights. As far as they know, neither one made it on a plane.
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http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-famil...6660559.column
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Hmmn, scary stuff Nurse. Have to make dinner, be back later to look at this. In the meantime, here is the translator's fb page.
https://www.facebook.com/ioanna.lekakou.5
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this story has me 10 shades of confused....
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Me, too.
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They are both missing?
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I'm worried for him... this whole story reads like a John Grisham novel.
HOWEVER, I want to play devil's advocate for a moment. His being chosen by The Vatican to study in Greece was a huge deal. Why would he get that involved in his translator's family dispute? Is it possible that he and the translator are 'involved', she received an inheritance, and he is running off with her, escaping the priesthood?
Something seems amiss to me. I believe it could be true - that he is genuinely in trouble. But I also believe there's a chance something else is up. JMHO
(At least if something else is up, then there's a greater chance that he is safe and unharmed... which I hope he is, no matter what is going on.)
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Prob not relevant, but interesting so I'll put it out there.
http://christorchaos.com/RetractingS...PaulPetko.html
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I'm worried for him... this whole story reads like a John Grisham novel.
HOWEVER, I want to play devil's advocate for a moment. His being chosen by The Vatican to study in Greece was a huge deal. Why would he get that involved in his translator's family dispute? Is it possible that he and the translator are 'involved', she received an inheritance, and he is running off with her, escaping the priesthood?
Something seems amiss to me. I believe it could be true - that he is genuinely in trouble. But I also believe there's a chance something else is up. JMHO
(At least if something else is up, then there's a greater chance that he is safe and unharmed... which I hope he is, no matter what is going on.)
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Did you look at her facebook page? His parents are very friendly with her, so she is not some stranger from a foreign country who merely "works" with their son.
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Did you look at her facebook page? His parents are very friendly with her, so she is not some stranger from a foreign country who merely "works" with their son.
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I looked at it just now. I do think they are both probably in danger, but I also don't want to discard the possibility that something else is going on - which would mean they are more than likely safe somewhere.
I guess after this text hoax in NJ and other similar things these days, I always have that on the back burner in my brain...
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I looked at it just now. I do think they are both probably in danger, but I also don't want to discard the possibility that something else is going on - which would mean they are more than likely safe somewhere.
I guess after this text hoax in NJ and other similar things these days, I always have that on the back burner in my brain...
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Read post titled "The Last Whereabouts of Fr. Kappes".
https://www.facebook.com/ncharcap
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Does IL only have the one fb account? She has 2 friends and just joined fb in the end of Aug... Am I missing something here? 
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Does IL only have the one fb account? She has 2 friends and just joined fb in the end of Aug... Am I missing something here? |
Read the post at the facebook page I linked above ^^^^
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Read the post at the facebook page I linked above ^^^^
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Yes I read that one but its not the 'translators' fb page. I must be getting tired, sorry.
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Did you look at her facebook page? His parents are very friendly with her, so she is not some stranger from a foreign country who merely "works" with their son.
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'Her' being who? This is where I got lost. 
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Yes I read that one but its not the 'translators' fb page. I must be getting tired, sorry.
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That is Father Kappes' sister's page.
She says ... "*Refers to my brother who has been talking about politics freely with Ioanna on social media".
I'm not sure, but wonder if social media refers to facebook pages. I cannot find one for him, but found a University page for him which only shows up in "cache". Couple of other things, same thing. I think he was trying to wipe certain things off the internet. Scary ...
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I posted that above Belimom, lol.
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I'm also confused about why the US Embassy refused to help him?
I'm not versed at all in Catholicism. It was said that he wanted to "bridge the gap" between the Greek Orthodox and Catholic Churches. Would this be considered unwelcome by the GOC? Is there a political undertone running through this story? $70k is not a lot of money, doesn't seem worth murdering two people, one of whom is likely to garner a lot of attention when he disappears.
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I'm also confused about why the US Embassy refused to help him?
I'm not versed at all in Catholicism. It was said that he wanted to "bridge the gap" between the Greek Orthodox and Catholic Churches. Would this be considered unwelcome by the GOC? Is there a political undertone running through this story? $70k is not a lot of money, doesn't seem worth murdering two people, one of whom is likely to garner a lot of attention when he disappears.
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I had the same thoughts.
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Father Kappes said it is likely that his nomination is due to his academic interest in the appreciation of some Orthodox theologians in the Middle Ages for the philosophy of St. Thomas Aquinas and similar scholastic philosophers in the Catholic Church.
This took place two centuries after a definitive break in ties between the Catholic Church in Western Europe and the various Orthodox Churches in Eastern Europe and parts of the Middle East.
Father Kappes said that, through his studies, he hopes “to reintroduce Greek Orthodox theologians to their own tradition.”
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http://www.archindy.org/criterion/lo...18/kappes.html
Gnarly story, all in all.
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I'm also confused about why the US Embassy refused to help him?
I'm not versed at all in Catholicism. It was said that he wanted to "bridge the gap" between the Greek Orthodox and Catholic Churches. Would this be considered unwelcome by the GOC? Is there a political undertone running through this story? $70k is not a lot of money, doesn't seem worth murdering two people, one of whom is likely to garner a lot of attention when he disappears.
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Not only that, the entire story In the "last know whereabouts" is incredibly fantastical and almost sounds delusional. A woman was rapes, tortured and beaten and the police are no help? The us embassy turns away an American priest? But I wonder if it isn't a manufactured story to allow Chris to leave his life?
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I agree...this story is welll......wow.....out there.....
We have a mother telling her political party......do we know who the political party is????? that her daughter is a spy so that they will kill her and pin the murder on the priest who is travelling with her because she missed out on 70k inheritance...
We have a priest trying to bridge the gap on greek orthodox and catholic church as per above.
We have a priest that wrote letters to someone about a bishop and his drug and homosexual tendencies....
We have a priest who has refused to say the mass in latin (or old mass) and was in Mexico...
and that is just what I get from quickly perusing the stuff above...
that site about the bishop was just eewwkkk...
so all I can say is WHAT THE?????? is going on here
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Just came across a similar forum community named “ Catholic Answers Forum.” This site includes a fairly recent, (although fairly limited) thread concerning this same case…
Most threads on this site appear to be limited to topics pertaining to the Catholic-Church community…described below as:
“Welcome to Catholic Answers Forums, the largest Catholic Community on the Web.” Here you can join over 300,000 members from around the world discussing all things Catholic. Membership is open to all, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, who seek the Truth with Charity.
Main Forum Link:
http://forums.catholic.com/index.php
This Cases Forum:
“ Exclusive: Family fears missing Indiana priest in danger, possibly dead in Greece":
http://forums.catholic.com/printthread.php?t=716893
(Don’t see much more new, detailed, and/or innovative content, but it might be useful to check-up on new postings from time-to-time JIC!)
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Yes me also!
I used to live in greece and its not a scarey place to live.
I went to the Embassy many times and they always helped.
You want to leave the country you go he has an American Passport!
I dont understand what or who is stopping him!
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Just came across a similar forum community named “ Catholic Answers Forum.” This site includes a fairly recent, (although fairly limited) thread concerning this same case…
Most threads on this site appear to be limited to topics pertaining to the Catholic-Church community…described below as:
“Welcome to Catholic Answers Forums, the largest Catholic Community on the Web.” Here you can join over 300,000 members from around the world discussing all things Catholic. Membership is open to all, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, who seek the Truth with Charity.
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This Cases Forum:
“ Exclusive: Family fears missing Indiana priest in danger, possibly dead in Greece":
http://forums.catholic.com/printthread.php?t=716893
(Don’t see much more new, detailed, and/or innovative content, but it might be useful to check-up on new postings from time-to-time JIC!)
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Im not buying the kidnapped from the airport!
There is so much security at the airports in Greece.
Here is the hinkey!!!!!!!
Why does he have a translator!
Hes Greek even tho American!
Hes lived there for 3 yrs
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