An Evening with JonBenet...by Walter A. Davis

Blazeboy3 · #1 11-03-2003, 02:55 AM

In my dreams:*I have all the money to send this book to all involved...LOL...in my dreams...I would make sure that Steve Thomas/The "FOX"/the Ramseys/LinWood?/all involved in Boulder/ READ THIS BOOK... NON-STOP...and comprehend/learn what is written regardless if you like it or not...!!! ... and not but least PATSY...who knows what she should have learned!!!

An Evening with JonBenet Ramsey by Walter A. Davis
http://goinside.com/02/7/benet.html
July 29, 2002
TIME: 2025

PLACE: A Room

RISE: Voices heard in the dark, continuing as light comes up on the face of a woman seated center stage, facing audience
PATSY’S VOICE

No no no no no no no No. You’re getting it all wrong. Again.. From the top. (Sings following line) “I want to be a Cowboy’s Sweetheart, I—”
VOICE OF NEDRA (Patsy’s Mother)

Sing out, Jolie, Sing Out! You want to be Miss America someday it begins here missy.
JOHN’S VOICE
That’s what you are baby, Daddy’s Girl.
NEDRA’S VOICE
Oh, law, she carries her body like a sack of wood. Keep going, nobody told you to stop.
JOHN’S VOICE

Blazeboy3 · #2 11-03-2003, 03:12 AM

OK, I'm done here...GOOD NITE IN THIS RAINY STATE OF NE! LOL

tipper · #3 11-03-2003, 10:12 AM

"PATSY’S VOICE
Speak up. What have you got to say for yourself. Nothing. Good. Here’s what nothing gets you. (Loud noise of slap.)"

A slap? Where did you get the idea that Patsy slapped her children? If anything, she's been criticized for being too easy going.

#4 11-03-2003, 10:22 AM

Blazeboy! You can't copy huge portions of a published work without the author's permission! Please pare those posts down to a paragraph or two right away.

SisterSocks · #5 11-03-2003, 04:59 PM

Maxi isn't there more you can do with Blaze and the waste of band width? Just asking her nicley doesn't help she like the damn ever ready bunny she goes on and on and on and on and on and on >: (

Jayelles · #6 11-03-2003, 05:37 PM

Is this for real? No way.... There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Patsy slapped JonBenet around. JonBenet was an adored child.

I don't think there is any justification for speculating along these lines about people (who are in effect total strangers) - not even if the proceeds are going to charity.

IMO, people can have their opinions about whether the Ramseys are guilty, innocent or just involved in JonBenet's death. This is a whole different ballgame. This is a wee girl we're talking about here. Little more than a baby and she died a horrible and terrifying death. There is NO justification in writing about her in this disgusting way.

Show Me · #7 11-03-2003, 07:48 PM

Wow! Glad I got to read it all before Blazeboy edits it down.

It's very deep....don't care much for all the vulgar language...though I understand the reason for the bad language.

tipper · #8 11-03-2003, 08:47 PM

No, it's not "deep." It's simply pornography using a dead child as a hook to get sales. If this man has something to say about child beauty pageants he should say it and spare us this tripe.

#9 11-03-2003, 08:57 PM

But the fact is he is only specuating what really happened in JonBenet's life and what could have happened had she not died. Since the worst thing in the world has already happened to her, we associate that the worst would have happened regardless of her life or her death. What if this hadn't happened? What if she did not grow up that way. Many parents pressure their kids beyond means and many live vicariously through their children.

I don't think that JonBenet grew up in a physically abused household. I don't thin there was ever any evidence of that.

This is just someone who wrote a book complete with his opinion and his opnion only. (Using a dead child mind you)

Why didn't he get a frew other case studies if this is supposed to be about child beauty pageants and not just JonBenet? Their are plenty of children living in pageants. Did his "research" include girls like JonBenet that are grown up now? That grew up in pageant life and how their lives turned out?

Maikai · #10 11-03-2003, 10:48 PM

This is an insult to cigarette smokers everywhere! and probably Catholics, too. So...beauty pageant participants will become sluts by the time they're in eighth grade? Influenced by the catholic religion? and that in turn will drive them to smoke cigarettes and drink bottled water? egads! How did Diane Sawyer escape such a future?

tipper · #11 11-03-2003, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by ajt400
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I don't think that JonBenet grew up in a physically abused household. I don't thin there was ever any evidence of that.
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That's the point. There has been no evidence that she was physically abused in connection with the pageants (or anything else, for that matter) yet he is using this false premise as a jumping off point for the subsequent opinion.

I don't know whether malice can be proven. But I think there should be some kind of consequence for the willful creation of negative "facts" when presenting a piece using real people's names and situation. I would feel the same way whether we are talking about the Ramseys or the estate of Ted Bundy.

#12 11-04-2003, 12:06 AM

Was JonBenet even Catholic? For some reason I thought they were Methodists or Southern Baptists? Does anyone know?

Maikai · #13 11-04-2003, 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by ajt400
Was JonBenet even Catholic? For some reason I thought they were Methodists or Southern Baptists? Does anyone know?

No! They are not catholic---not sure exactly what religion--maybe methodist.

Afton · #14 11-04-2003, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by Maikai
This is an insult to cigarette smokers everywhere! and probably Catholics, too. So...beauty pageant participants will become sluts by the time they're in eighth grade? Influenced by the catholic religion? and that in turn will drive them to smoke cigarettes and drink bottled water? egads! How did Diane Sawyer escape such a future?

Hi Maikai--I can't imagine anyone saying that!

Maikai · #15 11-04-2003, 01:42 AM

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Originally posted by Afton
Hi Maikai--I can't imagine anyone saying that!

Hi Afton....it's been a looonnng time, hasn't it? One of these days I'm going to check out the L&L stuff here in Chicago. Apparently one of the homes and the drugstore are still standing.

Jayelles · #16 11-04-2003, 04:14 AM

It's simply wrong to speculate about real, living people in such a horrid way. It's just wrong. It's a terrible insult to JonBenet above all else.

I don't know anything about Walter Davis. I have no idea if he is heterosexual or homosexual or anything else - but I could speculate (i.e. guess). I could write a book in graphic details about my speculations and be totally and utterly wrong. My graphic details might be titillating for some and disgusting to most and be extremely repulsive and hurtful to Mr Davis - but will it be OK for me to do that if I do so and donate the proceeds of my book to charity?

What do others think? (truthfully) Is it OK to go around publishing your wild and imagined dirty thoughts about real people in the name of Freedom of Speech?

shamu · #17 11-04-2003, 04:31 AM

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Originally posted by ajt400
Was JonBenet even Catholic? For some reason I thought they were Methodists or Southern Baptists? Does anyone know?

John and Patsy were Episcopalians, so I suppose JonBenet wore same label. Though pffft; I think it's silly to call six-year olds that, or anything else. I know everyone does it, but to me a six year old should no more be called "Episcopalian" than be called "Republican" or "Democrat" or "Communist" or "Nazi" or "Socialist" or "Buddhist" or "Baptist" or "gay" or straight" or "bisexual."

Maybe we could wait a few years and they could make their own decisions and THEY could grow up and tell US what they are.

(psst. she was Episcopalian.)

shamu · #18 11-04-2003, 04:45 AM

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shamu · #19 11-04-2003, 04:46 AM

double

shamu · #20 11-04-2003, 04:47 AM

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Jayelles · #21 11-04-2003, 04:51 AM

I have some vague memory of a previous discussion about this which concluded that John was an Episcopalian but that Patsy wasn't really.

I could be wrong. Religion is not something I have a great interest in (justifiably having grown up in a sectarian environment) so I wouldn't have been paying full attention!

Show Me · #22 11-04-2003, 08:15 AM

Wish Blazeboy had posted part of an essay.

Is the rest of the book along the same lines? If it is...I don't know if I can read it all.

#23 11-04-2003, 09:56 AM

In Atlanta, the Rams were Presbyterian. In Boulder, they were Episcopalian.

If you want to read the play, please go to the url Blazeboy provided in the first post. I deleted the other, longer posts because of copyright violatons.

Shylock · #24 11-04-2003, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by tipper
No, it's not "deep." It's simply pornography using a dead child as a hook to get sales. If this man has something to say about child beauty pageants he should say it and spare us this tripe.

It's FICTION -- Why people want to discuss it like it has some value is beyond me... I guess you all must be really bored.

#25 11-04-2003, 12:40 PM

Thank You Shylock for seeing what I guess very few here do. This is simply a wrok of fiction, the author himself said it is loosely based on JonBenet, so why the big deal?