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Old 07-20-2013, 08:48 PM
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Now they're asking for people to call Crimestoppers...! Is that usual for a Search and Rescue operation?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-2...orsens/4833280
Yes. Crimestoppers is a Police reporting resource - like a tip line.
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Oh my.... I really hope for success soon.....

I don't know how it is in Australia with having the last phone call pinged and/or if LE did that...at least it would show a starting point....

My prayers for a safe return.....

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The main telephone tower is not far away at all - its on one of the plateau tops. Its in the same region as the Resort.
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As can be seen in the SES pics I posted there are areas where not only is there the overhead canopy of trees but also a canopy of undergrowth of ferns etc. So it is quite easy to search the area and walk right past someone lying down in the undergrowth.

This is just one of the factors that makes searching so difficult and time consuming.
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Hope the link works ...... SES pics of the search .... great shots Colin
They show just how thick the undergrowth is.
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As can be seen in the SES pics I posted there are areas where not only is there the overhead canopy of trees but also a canopy of undergrowth of ferns etc. So it is quite easy to search the area and walk right past someone lying down in the undergrowth.

This is just one of the factors that makes searching so difficult and time consuming.
Exactly. I think this is why people who don't know the area don't realise the importance of extreme safety measures. Anyone visiting the area should know them, not least experienced bush walkers!! That's why I can't figure out the details here. They say he was experienced, so why did he display such inexperience and such amateurish mistakes???
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Why does it seem that lonely inebriated men always get in trouble? Any bodies of water nearby?
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Why does it seem that lonely inebriated men always get in trouble? Any bodies of water nearby?
I know what you're thinking - no bodies of water as such, no smiley faces either hopefully.

I personally doubt his level of inebriation was even very high as he was a fairly new employee with a very large and important company. I have family who worked for Oracle and it is not the sort of company that would encourage shenanigans in their staff at any time. He almost certainly was not using illegal drugs either, we have drug testing in Australian workplaces. He was also apparently sober enough to call his friend, not something drunks usually do when supplied with free alcohol at a luxury resort.

His brother posted "use your skills" on the FB page, which means he has them, apparently.

Which in turn makes it completely inexplicable that he would be wandering through bushland in the first place in the exact middle of winter in the middle of the night, in work clothes.

Makes no sense whatsoever. Experienced hikers just don't do that, anytime, let alone when they've been drinking.

I'm hoping he didn't meet with foul play - what if the lights he headed towards were the road and someone dangerous...?

ETA: here's a link to the resort. Very nice but it's got a large ornamental lake which I hope they've dragged!

http://www.fairmontresort.com.au/
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I also doubt that he was heavily intoxicated. He probably had a couple of drinks, but we've had no confirmation that he was inebriated.

I would love to know the details of the 15 minute call. He obviously wasn't worried during that time. But was he "close to the main road" or could he "see a light off in the distance up a hill"? Both have been reported and they're at odds with each other.

If overseas WSers are googling and find information about the City of Blue Mountains, keep in mind that although it has a fair sized population and is close in proximity to Sydney, don't think of a US city when you think of the City of Blue mountains. I'm not local, but I have spent plenty of time there. It is a dangerous place to be lost, especially if you're not prepared to be in that type of terrain. It is spread out and is surrounded by bushland. It is made up of smaller towns and villages. These are photos of the resort Mr Tweddle was staying at, which is in the middle(ish) of that 'city'.

http://resources3.news.com.au/images...cape-leura.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sf1-FwnWJg...ery-756288.jpg

This is Sublime Point Lookout, which is near the area they're searching.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:B...ntains0011.jpg

And these are the types of cliffs which are very close to the suburban areas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KATOOMBA_FALLS.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:B...VEIL_FALLS.jpg

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I know what you're thinking - no bodies of water as such, no smiley faces either hopefully.

I personally doubt his level of inebriation was even very high as he was a fairly new employee with a very large and important company. I have family who worked for Oracle and it is not the sort of company that would encourage shenanigans in their staff at any time. He almost certainly was not using illegal drugs either, we have drug testing in Australian workplaces. He was also apparently sober enough to call his friend, not something drunks usually do when supplied with free alcohol at a luxury resort.

His brother posted "use your skills" on the FB page, which means he has them, apparently.

Which in turn makes it completely inexplicable that he would be wandering through bushland in the first place in the exact middle of winter in the middle of the night, in work clothes.

Makes no sense whatsoever. Experienced hikers just don't do that, anytime, let alone when they've been drinking.

I'm hoping he didn't meet with foul play - what if the lights he headed towards were the road and someone dangerous...?

ETA: here's a link to the resort. Very nice but it's got a large ornamental lake which I hope they've dragged!

http://www.fairmontresort.com.au/
Wow, it's gorgeous up there! I too hope they dragged it.
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I will be out again today and I will try and take some footage of the walk so you can see whats under the canopy of those tree tops and what walking on the tracks looks like.
Although there are many very well signposted tracks there are others which are not signposted.
There is water in the area, but not lakes as such (not in the bushland part of it) - more waterfalls, creeks and streams. These are beneficial more than hazardous. You can follow the streams to the cliff faces - its getting up the cliff faces which is the hard part. Its like a basin with straight cliff wall sides.

Better get heading out - its midday already here.
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I saw this posted on the FB page. It was a few days ago but I think it's worth posting again in case it helps any memories of anyone local.

https://twitter.com/paperelephant/st...71283098771457

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Tonight i heard that someone claims to have seen #GaryTweddle Tuesday at 6am in Wentworth Falls. If you saw him please contact @nswpolice
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I don't know this part of the Blue Mountains well (I only know Katoomba), but is this part of Wentworth Falls near to the Sublime Point area?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...62992492_n.jpg

This is another beautiful photo, it shows some of the cliffs.
http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/im...ircaseBMNP.jpg
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The pics I posted yesterday are from Wentworth Falls area.

Just a repeat - Gary's checkered shirt is Purple and Pink.
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I once got lost (for a couple hours) on 44 acres of extremely dense bush surrounded by road on all sides. So embarrassing... but it made me very aware of how easy it is to completely lose your bearings in the bush, and quickly too.

Odds aren't good for this guy, but I do hope he's managed to survive, and without horrible frostbite damage. Here's hoping for some good news (ETA, and that the possible sighting -was- him) soon. His family must be frantic.

I also seriously doubt his level of experience, if he's traipsed off into it in the dark and cold by himself. It's like, rule 1 of bushwalking: don't do that.
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Mention by Blue Mountains LAC Police - Update to come at the end of todays search:

https://www.facebook.com/BlueMountai...12885438790771
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I just got back from my walking/searching - I have not heard any news that he has been found.

I went to Leura and did a 2 track walks - Lyrebird Dell & Pool of Siloam.
I saw plenty of regular people out looking and while walking could hear some people randomly calling out "Gary" as they searched the tracks lower down in the valley.
The SES and helicopters were also out again searching.

I did speak to 3 men (work colleagues of GT) who were on the tracks searching and handing out posters. One man had come from Melbourne to help look, the other two guys had come up from Sydney and were staying to search tomorrow as well.

It has been windy today - yet still the sun was out. Though later in the afternoon the temperature was staring to cool rapidly.

I have some video footage and am just exporting it onto the computer now - then I will edit and upload it later tonight.

I really hope Gary is OK and surviving out there.
My thoughts are with his family and friends.
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Mention by Blue Mountains LAC Police - Update to come at the end of todays search:

https://www.facebook.com/BlueMountai...12885438790771
If you click on their photos it shows police divers at Leura. Do any locals recognise the place? It says that the photo is from earlier in the week.
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Wow, it's gorgeous up there! I too hope they dragged it.
Looks like they have.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...1258564&type=1
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*That water must be freezing!!
The Police responded to the Facebook post about an hour ago ... after they said there would be a full update later tonight - the picture created a bit of a stir - like something bad had happened because of the photo.

I saw the news tonight when I was at the Chicken Shop - Gary got about 20 seconds of coverage on Channel 9 - they reported he hadnt been found today.

reply From the LAC Katoomba Facebook Page: - *LAC Katoomba were replying to posters on their FB page: ...
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Same as other nights - the search is to be continued tomorrow - (snipped)
Off Topic, but I can't stand the FB timeline page setup - drives me nuts.
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No, Im pretty sure they haven't found him.
The picture is from a few days ago of the divers searching the water at Leura -
and the Police responded to the Facebook post about an hour ago ... after they said there would be a full update later tonight - I think people started assuming that something bad had happened.

I saw the news tonight when I was at the Chicken Shop - Gary got about 20 seconds of coverage on Channel 9 - they said he hadnt been found.

reply From the LAC Katoomba Facebook Page: - *LAC Katoomba were replying to posters on their FB page: ...


Off Topic, but I can't stand the FB timeline page setup - drives me nuts.
Not found him - dragged the lake.
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Not found him - dragged the lake.
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Im sorry about that, I changed the post when I realized what it was about - I was editing/typing the same time you posted.
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Im sorry about that, I changed the post when I realized what it was about - I was editing/typing the same time you posted.
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No problem FigTree - I noticed that as soon as I posted.
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Update on search from Blue Mountains LAC:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...1258564&type=1

Search Update (2130 hrs 21/7/2013) for Missing Man Gary Tweddle – Leura, Blue Mountains.

Search to be continued 22/7/2013.

The search for Missing Person Garry Tweddle continued in the Leura and surrounding areas on its sixth day (21/7).
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I know what you're thinking - no bodies of water as such, no smiley faces either hopefully.

I personally doubt his level of inebriation was even very high as he was a fairly new employee with a very large and important company. I have family who worked for Oracle and it is not the sort of company that would encourage shenanigans in their staff at any time. He almost certainly was not using illegal drugs either, we have drug testing in Australian workplaces. He was also apparently sober enough to call his friend, not something drunks usually do when supplied with free alcohol at a luxury resort.

His brother posted "use your skills" on the FB page, which means he has them, apparently.

Which in turn makes it completely inexplicable that he would be wandering through bushland in the first place in the exact middle of winter in the middle of the night, in work clothes.

Makes no sense whatsoever. Experi
enced hikers just don't do that, anytime, let alone when they've been drinking.

I'm hoping he didn't meet with foul play - what if the lights he headed towards were the road and someone dangerous...?

ETA: here's a link to the resort. Very nice but it's got a large ornamental lake which I hope they've dragged!

http://www.fairmontresort.com.au/
As they know pretty much the area he went missing from, its seems unbelievable that he hasn't been found by now. One person can't wander that far under the conditions surely?

Is there any chance that this could not be what it seems? Could he have wanted to disappear? I know its unlikely but so far none of this makes any sense?

Either that or he did make it to the road, and he met with an accident/foul play and he was removed from the area?
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