Case Against Darin?

beesy · #1 06-09-2005, 10:56 PM

Does anybody know what Darlie's supposed case against Darin involves? Is she saying he was the actual killer or that he hired someone or what?

Jeana (DP) · #2 06-10-2005, 09:39 AM

There isn't one. All she's done is made hints that he may have been involved.

Rachael · #3 06-10-2005, 10:19 AM

I hope their isn't one. At this point Darlie will do anything she can to get out of jail.

Jeana (DP) · #4 06-10-2005, 10:53 AM

There's nothing she can say or do that will improve her situation. She waited too long. Anything she says now will just look like a desperate attempt to spare her life.

Rachael · #5 06-10-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeana (DP)

There's nothing she can say or do that will improve her situation. She waited too long. Anything she says now will just look like a desperate attempt to spare her life.

I agree 100%. Darlie is desperate now so she is turning on Darin. That is her last attempt to save her butt and it's a little too late IMO. I really do not believe Darin had anything to do with the murderers.

Jules · #6 06-10-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeana (DP)

There's nothing she can say or do that will improve her situation. She waited too long. Anything she says now will just look like a desperate attempt to spare her life.

Jeana - a bit off-topic, but where does Darin stand now as far as supporting Darlie? Does he or has he moved on with his life? Do you know if he still visits her? Just curious - haven't read anything about that in a long time.

TIA - Jules

Jeana (DP) · #7 06-10-2005, 04:38 PM

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Jeana - a bit off-topic, but where does Darin stand now as far as supporting Darlie? Does he or has he moved on with his life? Do you know if he still visits her? Just curious - haven't read anything about that in a long time.

TIA - Jules

From what I understand, he still supports her, still visits her, etc. Of course, he's said he's not willing to change places with her, so if she comes right out and accuses him, you can bet his tune will change in a New York minute.

beesy · #8 06-11-2005, 12:56 AM

I know she's just grasping at straws, what I want to know is what she's claiming he did. Anybody know?

Goody · #9 06-11-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by beesy

I know she's just grasping at straws, what I want to know is what she's claiming he did. Anybody know?

Darlie has never made any statements about Darin's involvement in the case as far as I know. I think it is her defense team coming up with the claims now. They got Darin to sign an affidavit stating he had put the word out to have someone burglarize his home as an insurance scam. The implication is that these intruders might have been hired by Darin and just screwed up. Darlie's stepfather supports that with another affidavit, saying Darin asked him if he knew anyone who would do it. Darin also says Darlie asked for a separation that night.

I think the strategy is make it look like he had a motive, not prove he actually did it. They just need enough to get Darlie a new trial, using him as the scapegoat but not enough that it could be used against him later on. That is really hard to do and I doubt if they will be successful. It would have been a better strategy for the first trial.

beesy · #10 06-12-2005, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Goody

Darlie has never made any statements about Darin's involvement in the case as far as I know. I think it is her defense team coming up with the claims now. They got Darin to sign an affidavit stating he had put the word out to have someone burglarize his home as an insurance scam. The implication is that these intruders might have been hired by Darin and just screwed up.

Thank you! I'd heard something like that, but didn't know the details. Are they still married? I look at him and just see "doofus"...hee

sassy_texasbelle2 · #11 06-12-2005, 04:38 PM

When a man has two dead children and comments on his wife's boob job that pretty well tells me all I need to know on his character.

Nothing he did or has done would shock me.

Goody · #12 06-12-2005, 11:15 PM

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When a man has two dead children and comments on his wife's boob job that pretty well tells me all I need to know on his character.

Nothing he did or has done would shock me.

Me either. But how does he keep his love life soooooo underground that the media doesn't pick up on it? You'd think that an old girlfriend would run to the tabloids. Surely he hasn't been celibant all this time.

Goody · #13 06-12-2005, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by beesy

Thank you! I'd heard something like that, but didn't know the details. Are they still married? I look at him and just see "doofus"...hee

I don't think he is as dumb as he acts. He has been smart enough so far to keep himself out of jail. As far as I know they are still married. If he is dating, he has been able to keep it very quiet. I find that very unusual.

beesy · #14 06-17-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Goody

I don't think he is as dumb as he acts. He has been smart enough so far to keep himself out of jail. As far as I know they are still married. If he is dating, he has been able to keep it very quiet. I find that very unusual.

I think he looks like a doofus...he's very wiley, keeping to the story after all this
time. Good on him

RobertStJames · #15 06-22-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Goody

Darlie has never made any statements about Darin's involvement in the case as far as I know. I think it is her defense team coming up with the claims now. They got Darin to sign an affidavit stating he had put the word out to have someone burglarize his home as an insurance scam. The implication is that these intruders might have been hired by Darin and just screwed up. Darlie's stepfather supports that with another affidavit, saying Darin asked him if he knew anyone who would do it. Darin also says Darlie asked for a separation that night.

I think the strategy is make it look like he had a motive, not prove he actually did it. They just need enough to get Darlie a new trial, using him as the scapegoat but not enough that it could be used against him later on. That is really hard to do and I doubt if they will be successful. It would have been a better strategy for the first trial.

Doesn't anyone else find it very odd Darin didn't admit this during the initial investigation? Wonder if he's lying, but what would be the point there? Saying Darlie asked for a separation hardly supports any "intruder" theory. And I do not see Darin running the risk of finding himself on trial in order to free his wife. If he'd been that devoted to her, he'd have done this a long time ago.

This gets to the core of the question I was asking a while ago, which I'll reword slightly: Does supporting Darlie's innocence automatically mean supporting Darin's innocence?

RstJ

Mary456 · #16 06-23-2005, 12:17 AM

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This gets to the core of the question I was asking a while ago, which I'll reword slightly: Does supporting Darlie's innocence automatically mean supporting Darin's innocence?

RstJ

Yes, it does, according to the supporters I've encountered over the last 6 years. Regardless of what their agenda is (anti-death penalty, anti-Texas, family, friends, etc.), they will viciously attack anyone who suggests Darin was involved in any way, shape or form.

They took a stand in the beginning that Darlie and Darin were completely innocent of this crime, and it's sticking to them like glue. A few years ago a staunch supporter had the audacity to suggest that Darin might be involved, and they practically lynched him on the spot. They love Darlie, they love Darin, and their only goal is to find the "real killer"

Cowgirl · #17 06-23-2005, 09:33 AM

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Yes, it does, according to the supporters I've encountered over the last 6 years. Regardless of what their agenda is (anti-death penalty, anti-Texas, family, friends, etc.), they will viciously attack anyone who suggests Darin was involved in any way, shape or form.

They took a stand in the beginning that Darlie and Darin were completely innocent of this crime, and it's sticking to them like glue. A few years ago a staunch supporter had the audacity to suggest that Darin might be involved, and they practically lynched him on the spot. They love Darlie, they love Darin, and their only goal is to find the "real killer"

And that is their biggest problem. The real killer is on death row, Darin goes to visit her and her boob job, and that is the way it will stay, apparently. He raises their remaining child.

Her mother said that it was love at first sight for Darin at The Sizzler where they met. So that tells you right there what he fell for -- certainly not for the person inside.

One of the times she was coming up for appeal I asked a question about the cut screen on her website and instead of a straight answer, I got a response about "it will all be explained at the appeal hearing" and so I responded that without a more direct answer than that, they would never, ever convince anyone that she is not the guilty party.

The part I will never understand is why. Post partum mania? They had very little insurance on the kids and if you look at her gaudy taste in that house, she was all about material things. She must just have wanted out, I guess. She must just be evil. And whether he knows she is evil or not, he knows no one broke in that house. He has to. They are a very strange pair.

accordn2me · #18 06-23-2005, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertStJames

Doesn't anyone else find it very odd Darin didn't admit this during the initial investigation? Wonder if he's lying, but what would be the point there? Saying Darlie asked for a separation hardly supports any "intruder" theory. And I do not see Darin running the risk of finding himself on trial in order to free his wife. If he'd been that devoted to her, he'd have done this a long time ago.

This gets to the core of the question I was asking a while ago, which I'll reword slightly: Does supporting Darlie's innocence automatically mean supporting Darin's innocence?

RstJ

I do find it very odd that Darin didn't bring this up immediately. And you are right, he had more motive for killing than she did. However, if Darlie were privy to this bright idea, it's more odd that she didn't bring it up. Although it wouldn't be the oddest thing she did.

While I don't consider myself "supporting Darlie's innocence" - my problem is that her attorney didn't address the evidence against her - if I found out that Darin did it, I wouldn't feel nearly so badly that Darlie is on death row. I don't believe she could have given the description that she did and not know it was Darin. Why in tarnation would she protect him? If she knows and is lying for him, she deserves the same punishment that he should have gotten.

Goody · #19 07-05-2005, 02:10 PM

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While I don't consider myself "supporting Darlie's innocence" - my problem is that her attorney didn't address the evidence against her - if I found out that Darin did it, I wouldn't feel nearly so badly that Darlie is on death row. I don't believe she could have given the description that she did and not know it was Darin. Why in tarnation would she protect him? If she knows and is lying for him, she deserves the same punishment that he should have gotten.

Because they were in on it together, and as another poster at another board said, he just didn't have the guts to do the dirty work. It was not very well planned, but then nothing they did seemed to involve much planning...or research. They tended to jump into things with both feet and ask questions later. At least that is my take on them. Who knows if the murders started with a moment of rage that ended with one child injured/dead or if the argument they had that night that supposedly included a separation request was the trigger. (I think he acknowledged that a sep request was asked for that night in the aff so the defense could use it to point fingers at Darin without Darin having to admit any participation in the actual murders.)

I am suspicious of the suicide attempt in May and how it might have been the foundation for the initial formation of a haphazard plan. I am also suspicious of the hiring of a maid just two days before the murders and then the murders happening before the house could get messed up again. I am suspicious about the timing of the jewelry being left on the counter, of Darlie asking a maid she'd just hired to look at her jewelry because she was thinking about selling it to raise $10,000. (Obvously the maid couldn't buy it.) Why mention a figure like that, esp when it matches to the penny the death benefit on the boys? Add that to the papers/policies being left out in the family room and it gets more suspicious.

Then look at their actions after the crime. All the ordinary oddities aside, what about them signing a contract to shop their story only two days after Darlie's arrest? What were they so happy about the morning of her arrest when they were dancing around the front yard and tossing the toys off the dying wreaths around like they were basketballs? Had they just found an agent for their story maybe and were in the process of receiving a contract from him?

And then there is the trial and all of Darin's odd behavior. He goes to the house on Bond Street to look at the screens, apparently to see if any of them are cut? That was in December just before the January trial began. While there, he tells the current resident that Darlie could make the alley run in 30 seconds (or some such figure), that the intruder was a 300 pound man, and a couple of other odd things that seemed to lean toward incriminating this wife he is supposedly so loyal to. Getting cold feet maybe?

During the trial he gets a big tatoo on his arm of Darlie and the boys and sports it in a tabloidish way outside the courthouse and jail as Darlie looks down thru a second story window. He also holds up a photo for her to see as if he is posing for the press. The family wears Free Darlie tshirts and sing gospel songs outside the court house, creating a carnival effect. One author has Darin's mother holding up a cross as if to curse those who think Darlie guilty as the evidence comes out. He tells his tatoo artist (per one author) that their case is going to be really big and they are going to make a lot of money before it is over. He tells others that Darlie is going to write a book and cut out the middlemen (book authors) so they will make more money for themselves.

There are just many, many little things like this that haunt this case. Each alone doesn't mean much but if you put them all together, most of the time they spell M-O-N-E-Y. Darin's words on that first radio show/tv interview come back to haunt. He said they had gotten in the habit of living large and didn't realize until after the murders what was important. I can't remember his exact words but I recall thinking he was almost saying that they didn't know how important the children were until after they gone and underestimated what it would be like without them. Then there is that detached distant look in their eyes that day after the silly string party when they were interviewed for TV. Are their thoughts drifting to regret or are they just trying to avoid the camera picking up on the emotional confrontation within their own souls for what they have done?

cami · #20 07-05-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by accordn2me

I do find it very odd that Darin didn't bring this up immediately. And you are right, he had more motive for killing than she did. However, if Darlie were privy to this bright idea, it's more odd that she didn't bring it up. Although it wouldn't be the oddest thing she did.

While I don't consider myself "supporting Darlie's innocence" - my problem is that her attorney didn't address the evidence against her - if I found out that Darin did it, I wouldn't feel nearly so badly that Darlie is on death row. I don't believe she could have given the description that she did and not know it was Darin. Why in tarnation would she protect him? If she knows and is lying for him, she deserves the same punishment that he should have gotten.

Yes I believe Darin is lying about this alleged insurance scam. He's buying into the State's motive with this story. He must really be that stupid that he can't see he was set up. Probably by DK.