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Rose Cole Missing from Synanon Facility, Oakland, CA 1972. Rose is listed as a runaway - but would she still be in hiding after all these years?


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Old 05-21-2006, 05:20 PM
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I read the first page of this 2-dozen+++ pages long thread, and did not find a physical description for Rose Leanne Cole, and there was only one link to a photograph, where she looked about 3 years old.
Shadow, Wondering didn't overlook the other pix of Rose... Wondering only read the first page of the 26 pages here, as stated above.

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Old 05-21-2006, 05:37 PM
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Rose's Birthmother Willie Mae & Father Jesse Joseph

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Old 05-21-2006, 05:45 PM
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More Family Pictures

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In one of her letters she mentions how much she looked like her mother. She didn't like to look like her. . .
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Old 05-21-2006, 09:03 PM
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Thanks so much for all the photographs.

Rose is such a distinctive, attractive brunette - her eyes, particularly are simply so stunning, that her face is memorable.

Looking at her, and reading a small bit about her disappearance and particularly noticing the date it occurred, and then spending alot of time today at http://www.doenetwork.org --- it really made me seriously wonder just how many teenagers and young adults disappeared into the "hippy underground" of the 1960s/70s.

Does anyone by anychance know how much she weighed in 1972? And, particularly, what was her height?

ONE (last,lol) question (sorry).... what it is, is this, IF she started using heroin after her disappearance, would she probably have loss a massive amount of weight, so would have been skinny during her time as a user?

AND..... before I go..... do any of the Missing Organizations ever send posters to Narcotics.Anonymous? Or... do they really have to be strictly anonymous.

It simply seems that she probably had contact with that organization at some point during the ensuing years.

Thanks again for the photos.
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Old 05-21-2006, 09:07 PM
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Shadow, Wondering didn't overlook the other pix of Rose... Wondering only read the first page of the 26 pages here, as stated above.

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Hi, HofTx, thanks for your assistance, and I'm sorry, I forgot about that 24-hour rule.

I hope that Rose's family will submit her case to all the Missing Persons' databases; I believe that she has such a distinctive 'look' about her, that with a little bit of coverage, she can be found.
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Old 05-22-2006, 03:12 AM
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Post #642

Re: post #642, I tried to post pics of the Sunset Bay Bridge the other day but I got them from a news site that has 24 hour traffic cameras. I knew the cameras were live but I thought the pics were "still" when I copied and pasted them. I didn't know they would still run live on this thread!!!!!

Depending on the weather when you read the post, you can choose to dismiss the text that says it's a beautiful day.
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Old 05-22-2006, 03:44 AM
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She is not yet listed. I have completed requests forms with multiple Missing persons sites. The only one currently trying to help me is the National Center for Missing and exploited chlidren.

I only have three pictures of Rose. . .let me go back and figure out how to place pictures here. . .or go to
http://360.yahoo.com/profile-6INKmI0...uDruGwQ--?cq=1
Did you contact Child Seek?
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Old 05-22-2006, 09:32 AM
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I hope that Rose's family will submit her case to all the Missing Persons' databases; I believe that she has such a distinctive 'look' about her, that with a little bit of coverage, she can be found.
It's my understanding that because Rose disappeared in (1) California, (2) lived in Michigan prior to being sent to Synanon, and (3) her brother (Isabela's husband) now lives in a third state, that attempts to file a missing persons report have become complicated. Once we are certain that proper paperwork has been filed to produce a Missing Persons report, then individual missing person's organizations can be contacted. I believe Isabela is already in contact with several of the organizations.
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Old 05-22-2006, 12:29 PM
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I had a conversation with Brenda (Roses sister by adoption) who is Opal's daughter last night via instant messenger. She gave me some information that I had never heard before. The letter that Rose wrote on her 16th birthday was NOT the last one that Opal received from Rose. Opal got a post card dated 01/18/73. It was a picture of the Sunset Bay Bridge. I am not sure exactly what Rose said on the post card. Opal received another letter later in 1973 but she is unsure of when. In that letter Rose told her that she was in China Town. She said that she was sick, had a kidney infection but was afraid to go to the Doctor. She was afraid of being caught and taken back to Synanon. She told Opal that she was not going to write anymore for fear of Synanon finding her. She said that she would find Opal no matter where she was once she turned 18.

In reference to what was posted earlier about the Jane Doe in CA being ruled out based on dental records, according to Opal, Rose never had any dental work. Opal says that the only thing that Rose ever had done was routine cleaning. However, she did say that her daughter Norma, had some dental work done on her front teeth at the dentist mention above. Is it possible that Norma and Roses dental work have been mixed up?

I hope that Opal can find the last letter that she got from Rose so we can have a date. I'll post as soon as I know.

I have invited Brenda to join WS's. I know that she was reading here last night.
Have you heard anymore or the more recent letters we didn't know about? I am dying to read those....to see where she was, what was going on, how her mood was...if she was feeling hopeless still or if things started looking up?

I LOVE the more recent picture of Rose, by the Christmas tree, I don't recall ever seeing that.
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Old 05-22-2006, 12:36 PM
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Concerning the last postcard sent by Rose: What is the Sunset Bay Bridge? There is a Bay Bridge running between Oakland and SF, but I have never heard it referred to by the name Sunset.

I ask not to be stickler to detail, but if there is a Sunset Bay Bridge somewhere else, that would be a clue as to where Rose might have gone after Oakland.
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Old 05-22-2006, 01:39 PM
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Have you heard anymore or the more recent letters we didn't know about? I am dying to read those....to see where she was, what was going on, how her mood was...if she was feeling hopeless still or if things started looking up?
Christine, it's my understanding that Opal (the stepmother) has been unable to find the last letter so we don't know what it said, other than what Shadow has already posted here re China Town, her kidney infection, etc.

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Old 05-22-2006, 03:56 PM
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Concerning the last postcard sent by Rose: What is the Sunset Bay Bridge? There is a Bay Bridge running between Oakland and SF, but I have never heard it referred to by the name Sunset.

I ask not to be stickler to detail, but if there is a Sunset Bay Bridge somewhere else, that would be a clue as to where Rose might have gone after Oakland.
Dr.Doogie,
I know know much about California but according to Itreenw's post # 642 the bridge is between SanFrancisco & Oakland.

Christine2448,
The only information from the last letter from Rose is what I posted. She was in ChinaTown & had a kidney infection. That was the letter where she said she wasn't going to write anymore in fear of those at Synanon finding here. She did say that when she turned 18, she would find Opal. Opal hasn't been able to find the letter as of yet and may not even still have it. She said that she got that letter sometime in 1973.
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Old 05-22-2006, 04:13 PM
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Way back in the thread somewhere(I am not even going to attempt to find it), someone posted a Rose Cole that they found on the SS Death index. Her DOB was 04/23/56 instead of 12/23/56 and the middle name was slightly different. That has bugged me all along thinking that it could still be Rose, it was so close. Well anyway, I did some more research and found that the Rose call that was listed is not our Rose. That Roses SS# was issued in 1969 in IL.

Social Security Number:361-**-****Date of this report:May 22, 2006State of Issuance:IllinoisApprox. Date of Issuance:1969Issuance Status:According to the Social Security Administration,
this SSN has been issued.SSA Death Masterfile:ROSE COLE 8/1998

Just thought I would post this information in case anyone else kept thinking that it could be her like me.
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:44 PM
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Dr.Doogie,
I know know much about California but according to Itreenw's post # 642 the bridge is between SanFrancisco & Oakland.

Christine2448,
The only information from the last letter from Rose is what I posted. She was in ChinaTown & had a kidney infection. That was the letter where she said she wasn't going to write anymore in fear of those at Synanon finding here. She did say that when she turned 18, she would find Opal. Opal hasn't been able to find the letter as of yet and may not even still have it. She said that she got that letter sometime in 1973.

Somehow, I have a hazy memory of seeing on TV a segment about a Haight Ashbury FREE MEDICAL CLINIC -- if I recall correctly, either the clinic itself is very famous, and/OR the founder(s) of the clinic are.

MAYBE it was the first of what later became low income "neighborhood clinics." It was located in Haight/Ashbury.

Frankly I wasn't paying much attention, as you can tell by reading my words; however, there probably are quite a few medical professionals still alive who volunteered their time there.

And Rose is simply so distinctive looking, that maybe one of them came into contact with her; MAYBE there is even an old medical file on her.
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Old 05-26-2006, 03:27 PM
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Somehow, I have a hazy memory of seeing on TV a segment about a Haight Ashbury FREE MEDICAL CLINIC -- if I recall correctly, either the clinic itself is very famous, and/OR the founder(s) of the clinic are.

MAYBE it was the first of what later became low income "neighborhood clinics." It was located in Haight/Ashbury.

Frankly I wasn't paying much attention, as you can tell by reading my words; however, there probably are quite a few medical professionals still alive who volunteered their time there.

And Rose is simply so distinctive looking, that maybe one of them came into contact with her; MAYBE there is even an old medical file on her.
Excerpt from the HA Clinic's website:
During the social revolution of the 1960s, the Haight Street Free Clinic was established to help the thousands of young people on the street in the Haight Ashbury district whose lives were affected by drug and alcohol abuse, mental and physical problems. With nowhere to turn, they found treatment and support when traditional services turned their backs on them. Since then, the Clinics have grown to become one of the largest multi-service providers in Northern California. Here's a link:

http://www.sfccc.org/sfcccclinics/hafmc.htm


There is also the Glide Memorial Church in SF overseen by Rev. Cecil Williams in the 60's or early 70's. It's non-denominational. It's a real church, not like a cult.

The church takes in anybody an everybody that needs help. Homeless, prostitutes, runaways, addicts and nobody is frowned upon. It's huge here. There is a shelter, a food bank, work programs. Many members work there in exchange for board/food. Rose would've been perfect since she had experience in food services at Syn. It's an awesome organization. I made a mental note to contact them a few days ago. My 'mental' must not be working again-I forgot to emai them (LOL). I will do that right now.
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Old 05-26-2006, 03:50 PM
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Could we get a post w/all of Roses info together.....height, weight, hair color, eye color, any distinguishing marks, tattoos, scars...etc...anything that would help us that are searching unidentified?


I found this one, but don't remember all of Rose's info....tried searching the thread, but I am too busy at work!

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/coro...fied/96052.htm


Did Rose have freckles?
This one matches in age also:
http://www.riversidesheriff.org/coro...ed/uni-fe1.htm

The only thing that stuck out to me was the age here would match up.....does anyone know this info above I mentioned off hand?

If not I will search.

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Somehow, I have a hazy memory of seeing on TV a segment about a Haight Ashbury FREE MEDICAL CLINIC -- if I recall correctly, either the clinic itself is very famous, and/OR the founder(s) of the clinic are.

MAYBE it was the first of what later became low income "neighborhood clinics." It was located in Haight/Ashbury.

Frankly I wasn't paying much attention, as you can tell by reading my words; however, there probably are quite a few medical professionals still alive who volunteered their time there.

And Rose is simply so distinctive looking, that maybe one of them came into contact with her; MAYBE there is even an old medical file on her.
You may want to look at the Mission Neighborhood Medical Clinic which served primarily Hispanics in the San Francisco area. The were in operation at the time and still are in business. I know that the medical director today was also there in the early seventies.
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Does anyone in the SF area know of a medical clinic that was semi-close to China Town? That's where Rose said she was when she mentioned her kidney infection, so it seems like if there was a free clinic close by, that would have been the one she would have gone to. Doogie's Mission Neighborhood Clinic may be the closest one for all I know.
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Old 05-26-2006, 05:52 PM
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I don't have the link right now, but if someone google's the Mission Neighborhood Medical Clinic, they will find that it is linked to several free/low-cost throughout SF. Each affiliated clinic has ther own web page and probably have their histories posted. Someone can find out which ones were in operation in 1973 and close to or in Chinatown.
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Thanks for the good advice, Doogie. I worked on California St. when I lived in SF, and I remember we just walked a very short distance to get to China Town for lunch... so my best guess is that it's this free clinic:

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Name:San Francisco Free ClinicAddress:4900 California StreetCross Street:11th AvePhone415) 750-9894Fax415) 750-1966
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Oops, upon further reading I see that the SF Free Clinic wasn't established until 1993... back to the drawing board.
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Old 05-26-2006, 10:55 PM
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Besides the Mission Clinic that Doogie mentioned above, this clinic (which opened in 1967) would also work:

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Name:Haight Ashbury Free Medical ClinicAddress:558 Clayton StreetCross Street:Haight StreetPhone415) 487-5632
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The Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic opened in response to the needs of the young people in the Haight Ashbury neighborhood, providing primary medical care, free of charge. A medical clinic where clients would come for quality, nonjudgemental and compassionate health care, regardless of their ability to pay
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I been watching this case from the start .. I really have to say each and every one of you that is helping work on this case has done a wonderfull job . i never thought we get this far in this amount of time..very good work
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Did Rose have freckles?
This one matches in age also:
http://www.riversidesheriff.org/cor...ied/uni-fe1.htm


Christine2448,

I spoke to Brenda and she said that Rose did have a few freckles on her nose but not alot all over her face. If you look at post #653, it looks like there were very few freckles.

I seem to recall that Rose was rather tall, the first Jane Doe you posted was only 5'1". I could be wrong but it seems to me like Rose was more like 5'6-5'8.
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Old 05-28-2006, 02:14 PM
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I sent a copy of the flier on Rose's Yahoo 360 page and added some info about the case to several LE and coroners offices in the Bay Area, Glide Memorial Church and also to the 2 major SF newspapers-the Chronicle and the Examiner and a small SF community based newspaper.

I included her pics and informed them that the Marin County Coroner had dental records so they could compare them to Jane Doe's.

I tried to contact my ex uncle-in-law at OPD but he is not in homicide any more. He's in anti-terrorism somethin' or other. It's a shame that we have to have such a unit in a local PD. Scary!!

Replies from the above agencies should go to Rose's family but if I get a reply I will post here.
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