who is this unidentified young girl? jumped/thrown from vehicle in AZ, 1999 - Page 7

JDB · #**151** 04-19-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by phenolred

heres a pic of AMBER boy the age progression the hair really seems to fit http://www.find-missing-children.org.../poster470.htm

Thank you. And seeing that Amber went Missing in 1988 an was born in 1980 that would make the UID if it is her 19. And from the pics that is the age or close to it. I know Amber and Michaela went missing within a year or two of each other.

christine2448 · #**152** 04-19-2007, 01:11 PM

delete pics

christine2448 · #**153** 04-19-2007, 01:12 PM

Wow, look at the nose ya'll.

Now...I was asking about Michaela, and you all bring another Doe.

How do the stats line up?

Need to see what the story is, right now I just looked at the pictures.

christine2448 · #**154** 04-19-2007, 01:20 PM

OK

Doe- guesstimated age is 13-18
If this IS Amber, she would be 18/19 IIRC

If this IS Amber, she would have been missing 11 yrs at the discovery of the Doe.

The eye color matches.

The hair, I can't say yes or no... I am not educated in hair color. I can tell you that Amber had blonde hair at age 8 ( I don't know her family history and if her parents/siblings have brown/blonde hair) the Doe has blonde hair w/BROWN roots, prolly brown dyed blonde?

JDB · #**155** 04-19-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by christine2448

Wow, look at the nose ya'll.

Now...I was asking about Michaela, and you all bring another Doe.

How do the stats line up?

Need to see what the story is, right now I just looked at the pictures.

Oh Amber is not a Doe in my heart. Again another one that went missing in my back yard so to speak.Here is what I copied from her pic
ID Info - NCIC #M-305024999. Amber is a white female with straight blond hair and blue eyes. She has a severe hearing impairment and suffers from migraine headaches. She has pierced ears and wears earrings with gold and emerald posts. She was last seen wearing a white short sleeved shirt with pictures of sunglasses on it, purple pants and white LA Gear tennis shoes with pink shoelaces.

Circumstances - Amber was last seen playing in her front yard in Pinole, California. She has not been seen or heard from since. Amber may have a leather jump rope with wooden handles with her.

christine2448 · #**156** 04-19-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JDB

Oh Amber is not a Doe in my heart. Again another one that went missing in my back yard so to speak.Here is what I copied from her pic
ID Info - NCIC #M-305024999. Amber is a white female with straight blond hair and blue eyes. She has a severe hearing impairment and suffers from migraine headaches. She has pierced ears and wears earrings with gold and emerald posts. She was last seen wearing a white short sleeved shirt with pictures of sunglasses on it, purple pants and white LA Gear tennis shoes with pink shoelaces.

Circumstances - Amber was last seen playing in her front yard in Pinole, California. She has not been seen or heard from since. Amber may have a leather jump rope with wooden handles with her.

Sorry Sorry, I typed wrong. I mean another missing. Sorry.

JDB · #**157** 04-19-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by christine2448

OK

Doe- guesstimated age is 13-18
If this IS Amber, she would be 18/19 IIRC

If this IS Amber, she would have been missing 11 yrs at the discovery of the Doe.

The eye color matches.

The hair, I can't say yes or no... I am not educated in hair color. I can tell you that Amber had blonde hair at age 8 ( I don't know her family history and if her parents/siblings have brown/blonde hair) the Doe has blonde hair w/BROWN roots, prolly brown dyed blonde?

It is to close to not see. her father was a policeman who was gunned down.her Mom started a fondation years ago. Let me see if I can find a pic of her mom.

christine2448 · #**158** 04-19-2007, 01:23 PM

I have sent out Amber on mailing lables in the past, and I never connected these 2 cases...maybe be onto something JDB.

christine2448 · #**159** 04-19-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JDB

It is to close to not see. her father was a policeman who was gunned down.her Mom started a fondation years ago. Let me see if I can find a pic of her mom.

That would be great, pic of mom, prolly can find one on dad too since he was an officer killed in the line of duty, how sad.

JDB · #**160** 04-19-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by christine2448

I have sent out Amber on mailing lables in the past, and I never connected these 2 cases...maybe be onto something JDB.

I am going to send an e-mail to Kim Swartz now. Asking if they have checked this one for Amber.

christine2448 · #**161** 04-19-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JDB

I am going to send an e-mail to Kim Swartz now. Asking if they have checked this one for Amber.

Is that a relative of Amber?? Be very careful JDB, we have a morgue photo here, this can be devasting! Sure you don't want to approach it differently...unless that isn't the family....or if you know them and think it's OK.

JDB · #**162** 04-19-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by christine2448

Is that a relative of Amber?? Be very careful JDB, we have a morgue photo here, this can be devasting! Sure you don't want to approach it differently...unless that isn't the family....or if you know them and think it's OK.

Not related. Kim was the one who was helping during Laci's case.

JDB · #**163** 04-19-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JDB

Not related. Kim was the one who was helping during Laci's case.

Oops my bad. Kim is her mom. I was thinking of Kim Peterson.

JDB · #**164** 04-19-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by christine2448

That would be great, pic of mom, prolly can find one on dad too since he was an officer killed in the line of duty, how sad.

Here is the best I could do for her mom Bottom of the page
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...cia_amber.html

JDB · #**165** 04-19-2007, 02:35 PM

I have just sent an e-mail to the Carole Sund foundation with this link.. I know kim Peterson and Ambers mom have worked together in the pass. Lets see what happens.

christine2448 · #**166** 04-19-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JDB

I have just sent an e-mail to the Carole Sund foundation with this link.. I know kim Peterson and Ambers mom have worked together in the pass. Lets see what happens.

OK, now, back to the Doe, what do you think of Michaela, anyone? Should we pursue? HOw about what the mother said? Wanted some input on what you all thought about all of this.

JDB · #**167** 04-19-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by christine2448

OK, now, back to the Doe, what do you think of Michaela, anyone? Should we pursue? HOw about what the mother said? Wanted some input on what you all thought about all of this.

I think both are worth having checked out.

christine2448 · #**168** 04-19-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JDB

I think both are worth having checked out.

I just hate to 'step' on mom's toes, make sense? This is all so sensitive.

Thanks JDB, I was waiting for someone to come along and give me some input, and you jumped right in!

JDB · #**169** 04-19-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by christine2448

I just hate to 'step' on mom's toes, make sense? This is all so sensitive.

Thanks JDB, I was waiting for someone to come along and give me some input, and you jumped right in!

I just keep thinking that is someones daughter there and they need closure.What I would do is send the comparsion to the Maricopa PD and see what they think. Then it will be thier call as to follow it any farther.

dhchick04 · #**170** 04-19-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JDB

I think both are worth having checked out.

Agree completely.

christine2448 · #**171** 04-19-2007, 03:55 PM

I just submitted both possible matches to Maricopa. Now, we wait and see if they respond.

christine2448 · #**172** 04-19-2007, 04:06 PM

Date: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:52 PM
From: Office of the Medical Examiner
To: caseinvestigator@charter.net
Subject: Unidentified Persons Information
Size: 2 KB

Thank you for your submission.
We will review the information you supplied against our case records. If
neccessary, we may contact you by phone or email.

Thank You Again,
Office of the Medical Examiner

JDB · #**173** 04-19-2007, 06:18 PM

Bumping to see if anyone else has input.

LionRun · #**174** 04-19-2007, 07:24 PM

Hi guys

. Great research, and I hope that this Doe turns out to be either Amber or Michaela. I see some things off when comparing the bone structures, so I do have doubts. But, I am just one skeptical person offering an opinion. And, I would have sent them off to be compared too--just to be sure. I sooo hope one of these girls is a match.

Lion

mjak · #**175** 04-19-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LionRun

Hi guys

. Great research, and I hope that this Doe turns out to be either Amber or Michaela. I see some things off when comparing the bone structures, so I do have doubts. But, I am just one skeptical person offering an opinion. And, I would have sent them off to be compared too--just to be sure. I sooo hope one of these girls is a match.

Lion

I agree with you. I think the doe has a very delicate chisled patite bone structure and this does not match up with Amber and Michaela has softer and rounder bone structure. Too me the Doe looks almost like she is of russian or polish decent. She is very distinctive looking and I suspect someone knows exactly who she is and has choosen for whatever reason not to lay claim to her. Very sad.

mjak