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Madeleine McCann Missing from the Algarve region of Portugal since May 3, 2007. Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, have said that they left the children unsupervised in a ground floor bedroom while they ate at a restaurant about 120 metres (130 yards) away.


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Old 05-16-2007, 01:49 AM
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IMO the children should not have been left alone ,but sadly that is water under the bridge and little Maddie is missing.
My heart breaks for the parents even though I dont agree with their idea of safety regarding their children.
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:00 AM
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I wonder what the deal is with this suspect? Do they have anything that points to him or was he just handy for LE?

This guy was either sincere in wanting to help the parents understand what was being said to them and what they were being asked and he also has a little girl the same age as Maddie and she reminds him of his daughter OR

he is guilty and wanted to insert himself in the middle of the investigation so that he would know everything that is going on and as he was inside the hotel or whatever that is...if they found his hair there or anything he could say that he had been in the place helping the parents so his hair would likely be there.

So far I haven't read anything that makes me believe that this guy took Maddie. He just seems to be concerned for her and her parents and is trying to help the parents as much as possible. Who knows though.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:28 AM
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Part of the suspicion about this man comes from another British case - the murder of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman by a piece of utter scum called Ian Huntley.

Huntley inserted himself into that case front and centre. When Robert Murat did the same, a British newspaper journalist contacted the authorities - because she was reminded of Ian Huntley. However, the authorities said they already had their eye on him because of his actions.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:35 AM
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I believe things continued to add up about Murat. I don't put much stock in his "I'm a scapegoat" comments, they all say that. I just read this article speaking more of the situation with his own daughter:

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/or...21280927.shtml
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:09 AM
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I believe things continued to add up about Murat. I don't put much stock in his "I'm a scapegoat" comments, they all say that. I just read this article speaking more of the situation with his own daughter:

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/or...21280927.shtml
"His daughter is also said to look 'just like' Maddy. Couldn't it be that a broken heart could have led him to take innocent Maddy."

If he looked at Maddy as a replacement of his own dd, I would hope and pray that he wouldn't harm her. Miracles do happen, and I'd love to see that he took her to mend his broken heart and she's still in hiding. Has his mother been questioned about Maddy's disappearance? She might be helping Murat hide Maddy.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:02 AM
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Part of the suspicion about this man comes from another British case - the murder of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman by a piece of utter scum called Ian Huntley.

Huntley inserted himself into that case front and centre. When Robert Murat did the same, a British newspaper journalist contacted the authorities - because she was reminded of Ian Huntley. However, the authorities said they already had their eye on him because of his actions.
I remember this case!! Didn't he work at their school, or something? He inserted himself under the guise of caring b/c he knew them from his job, or something. This Murat is acting exactly like Huntley.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:27 AM
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This maybe a strange question but I just skimmed over the posts...... WHY ON GODS GREEN EARTH was a 4 year old and two 2 year olds left ALONE?
That of course is the first question most asked, but it doesn't change the need to find the innocent child now. I also understand parents do things somewhat differently overseas. It's not uncommon outside the US to see small children lined up in strollers outside a shoppe or cafe as the parents are inside.

In this situation with Maddie, even if a perp grabbing their child or children was the furthest thing from their minds, obviously the risk of fire never crossed their minds either and the kids left unable to escape, or them waking up and being frightened? I don't get it either. But then again, I think if a lot of us look at the choices we make, we could find things that should be done differently. For example, one thing that is popular in our area is window decals on cars with a childs sports team and the child's NAME emblazoned with big bold letters right there on the window, everywhere they go. I'll never understand why people find that to be a good idea. If people really want the decals, why don't they just stick them on a mirror at home? We could probably go on and on with risks we and our neighbors take everyday. Those things however don't change the culpability of the perps or the urgency to find a missing child. We should all however look closely at all the ways we can minimize the risk of the worst happening, myself included. It really stinks though that an innocent child's life is in the balance while we learn these lessons.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:43 AM
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Maddy McCann

Hi everyone! I am new, so bear with me. I would like to know everyone's thoughts on the Maddy McCann story, over in Portugal. She has been missing since May 3rd. Again, hello all!!!!
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:52 AM
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hi and welcome to the forums.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:55 AM
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http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49339

here is the link to the thread you want.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:55 AM
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Here are two other threads on Maddy. And welcome!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...light=portugal


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...light=portugal
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:06 AM
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Is it really true that Europeans leave the children in strollers outside cafes and shops? I've been to 4 countries in Europe and have yet to see that.
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:47 AM
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In one of the articles linked here, it said that the ground search had been called off last week. Why is that?? Did I miss something??
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:23 PM
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Is it really true that Europeans leave the children in strollers outside cafes and shops? I've been to 4 countries in Europe and have yet to see that.
We saw it in Germany, but in this link, you can see, they do it in other countries as well:

http://yglesias.typepad.com/matthew/...ree_photo.html
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:29 PM
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Murat home searched again today:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...ing-girl_N.htm
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:28 PM
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More new info (posted just a few moments ago), police search home of 22 year old web designer, he worked on web page for Murat in Portugal, items removed:

http://icsurreyonline.icnetwork.co.u...name_page.html
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:33 PM
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Hi all,

It's summer and I'm out of school so I can finally get back on Websleuths. I, too, have been praying for Maddy. I wondered if any of you are familiar with this site? I found it in an overseas newspaper and while it's hard to read, people spell out what his drawings from his dreams mean. I'd be interested in hearing if anyone knows about him. From what I can gather, he thinks she's alive still and that a man and woman have her...that someone took her to sell to them.

http://www.****************.com/dd/5441.htm
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:13 PM
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Well I don't know. I have lived here in Germany for 2 years now and I have never seen that BUT I do know that they are wayyyyy more relaxed about children going around unsupervised,riding public transportation,walking around in the cities,etc.etc.. We will be downtown and see what looks to be maybe a 6-7 year old getting off the city bus with his book bag on lol. It looks so scary to me but to them its normal its their way of life. I really like it actually and only wish that I could feel comfortable enough to give my kids some freedoms but I am American and we do things diffrently. I have let my oldest do a few things that I know in the states would never happen!!


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Is it really true that Europeans leave the children in strollers outside cafes and shops? I've been to 4 countries in Europe and have yet to see that.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:15 PM
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More new info (posted just a few moments ago), police search home of 22 year old web designer, he worked on web page for Murat in Portugal, items removed:

http://icsurreyonline.icnetwork.co.u...name_page.html
Thanks for the updates!!
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:15 PM
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Also..I never been to Portugal. Has any of you? What is it like there? How rare or how common is child abduction? Is it a relatively safe country? Just curious...
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Well I don't know. I have lived here in Germany for 2 years now and I have never seen that BUT I do know that they are wayyyyy more relaxed about children going around unsupervised,riding public transportation,walking around in the cities,etc.etc.. We will be downtown and see what looks to be maybe a 6-7 year old getting off the city bus with his book bag on lol. It looks so scary to me but to them its normal its their way of life. I really like it actually and only wish that I could feel comfortable enough to give my kids some freedoms but I am American and we do things diffrently. I have let my oldest do a few things that I know in the states would never happen!!

I talked about this same aspect on a different thread... my travels in the UK and Ireland showed me the same thing... the overall atmosphere seems to be safe for kids to have those freedoms. But, I have never heard or seen European parents leaving their kids in prams and all outside of places they are at...
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:59 PM
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More new info (posted just a few moments ago), police search home of 22 year old web designer, he worked on web page for Murat in Portugal, items removed:

http://icsurreyonline.icnetwork.co.u...name_page.html
Since the web designers home was searched today and he designed a web site for the first man questioned, I'm guessing that LE knows more than they're telling.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:42 PM
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I agree with Philamena - I think the police have much more evidence/information than they are letting on. And that is fine with me - just return this little girl to her family. They seem to be following a trail of sorts. I just doubt that the police narrowed their interest to Murat for just the fun of it. Something is not ringing true. Murat could have been the one who grabbed her, received money and sent her on to another person. I just wish they would locate her.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:49 PM
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http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l...cle1762734.ece

Can you imagine the reaction to this article being published in America?
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http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l...cle1762734.ece

Can you imagine the reaction to this article being published in America?
I'm speechless.
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