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Lisa Stebic Missing from Plainsfield, IL. since April 30, 2007. On July 12, 2007, Craig Stebic was named as a person of interest in his wife's disappearance.


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Old 07-23-2007, 12:43 AM
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I'm so disappointed that there is no arrest yet and CS still has the children. I find that so scary.

May the angels watch over them and keep them safe.

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Old 07-23-2007, 01:02 PM
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Just read on the FLS website the yard sale raised $2000 over the weekend......
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:39 PM
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Just read on the FLS website the yard sale raised $2000 over the weekend......
I can't get excited about this. The fact is if nobody came forward for $60,000, $62,000 isn't going to force anyone to remember anything new. If, as many suggested, Lisa was killed in her home, stashed, and later moved in the middle of the night, it is very likely that nobody saw or heard anything. That leaves finding her up to chance, which is very unlikely at that point.

As I see it, the money is only going to be good for Craig because now he won't have to fork out any money for their college tuition. Raising money, in my opinion, while it is very thoughtful of volunteers to do this (and I mean no disrespect to their great intentions), is a waste of time and effort.

On the other hand, I don't know what can be done at this point. It seems that there is no new information to be had.

I hate to say it, but I'm beginning to believe that there will be no closure. The evidence has been carefully disposed of and enough doubt has been raised due to a possible boyfriend, workout partner, random abduction, etc., that no jury would see "guilty beyond resonable doubt".

People keep stating that LE has more evidence than we know. But they obviously don't have enough or they wouldn't be sitting on their hands.

The only hope I cling on to is I think it took 5 months before the arrested Scott Peterson. This has been less than 3. I sure hope I'm wrong.
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:07 PM
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in re. to close observer.. money talks BS walks....childish or?????I believe that cs can keep a secret, and if he is the only one involved then well....the money is worthless in that manner of thought. However one day when Lisa's children look back they will see that a community of strangers cared about them and their family.....the whole world is not like cs.
That is what the volunteers are working at. Never giving up HOPE. I believe the family needs to hear that messege also
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:37 PM
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in re. to close observer.. money talks BS walks....childish or?????I believe that cs can keep a secret, and if he is the only one involved then well....the money is worthless in that manner of thought. However one day when Lisa's children look back they will see that a community of strangers cared about them and their family.....the whole world is not like cs.
That is what the volunteers are working at. Never giving up HOPE. I believe the family needs to hear that messege also
Good point Ocean. I'm just frustrated....extremely. It just makes it uncomfortable in my neighborhood and it can't escape my everyday attention.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:41 AM
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<snip> However one day when Lisa's children look back they will see that a community of strangers cared about them and their family.....the whole world is not like cs.
That is what the volunteers are working at. Never giving up HOPE. I believe the family needs to hear that messege also

Wonderfully stated, ocean!
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:04 AM
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close observer, I understand, we must strive not to lose hope. We lean on one another for strength, we give it to each other. We are dealing with a horrible criminal act and therefor a sick disgusting and vial criminal mind. As I said before we can not think like him(the sick mind) we are going through the emotions of a normal people....we must stay strong and beat down the perp. (mentally) By staying united and strong....he slowly weakens.....STRONG...Good Will win out in the end...
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:45 PM
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My first post, I hope I get it correct. I agree. I'm afraid we have another Perry/Arthur March murder. Craig did the deed, called Daddy and Daddy drove to UP to dispose of body in one of the 1,000's of closed coal mines. I hope not, but that is what I fear.
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:10 PM
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Welcome, Gogranny! It is something we have discussed here. It certainly is within the realm of possibilities in this case.

There is also speculation his father may have met him that night to transfer and dispose of her body. They were avid "poachers" (I wouldn't use the term hunters after what the officer said in his interview early on.) and they used several mine pits on the father's property to get rid of the animals...so both would know where they could successfully hide a body.

LE has some evidence they are not sharing. The hope is they are slowly and methodically preparing this case so they can present it without a body. I believe once they take it to a Grand Jury, call the children for testimony, and present the evidence...there will be sufficient cause to arrest CS and move forward. We just need to have patience.
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Old 07-25-2007, 04:54 PM
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Welcome, Gogranny! It is something we have discussed here. It certainly is within the realm of possibilities in this case.

There is also speculation his father may have met him that night to transfer and dispose of her body. They were avid "poachers" (I wouldn't use the term hunters after what the officer said in his interview early on.) and they used several mine pits on the father's property to get rid of the animals...so both would know where they could successfully hide a body.

LE has some evidence they are not sharing. The hope is they are slowly and methodically preparing this case so they can present it without a body. I believe once they take it to a Grand Jury, call the children for testimony, and present the evidence...there will be sufficient cause to arrest CS and move forward. We just need to have patience.
Yes, and there has also been speculation that the elder Stebic owns a tree-cutting business and has done away with the evidence, a la "Fargo" - horrible thought!
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:57 PM
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Was it ever confirmed about the tree cutting business? Also I noted that there is a boat parked in cs driveway....wonder where that was docked?
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:16 PM
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Was it ever confirmed about the tree cutting business? Also I noted that there is a boat parked in cs driveway....wonder where that was docked?
Hi Ocean, I never saw any confirmation of the tree cutting business. So, I don't want to start any rumors, but I read that CS's dad had a tree cutting business. Don't know how relliable the source was. Read it on a chat board, might have been on the voy site, which may not be all that reliable, considering it seems there are a bunch of kids on that site who are more interested in talking about sex than the issue at hand - ugh!.
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:50 AM
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Where was the boat during the execution of the search warrent? Did LE know at that time of its existance? Tarp to truck to boat....back to truck....where has that boat been???
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:34 PM
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Where was the boat during the execution of the search warrent? Did LE know at that time of its existance? Tarp to truck to boat....back to truck....where has that boat been???
Hmmmm, Ocean, good line of thinking! Good questions...so, maybe he did pull a Scott Peterson!
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:34 PM
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Was it ever confirmed about the tree cutting business? Also I noted that there is a boat parked in cs driveway....wonder where that was docked?
OMyGosh!

Not AGAIN, a (mysterious) boat!?

I hope LE is checking that boat over very carefully. Let's hope they're as smart as the MPD is!

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Old 07-27-2007, 05:44 PM
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If the boat wasn't there during the two searches with warrants...I bet they haven't checked the boat. Interesting.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:03 PM
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If the boat wasn't there during the two searches with warrants...I bet they haven't checked the boat. Interesting.
I don't thing the boat isn't C.S.'s. It only showed up about 3 weeks ago for a couple of days. I think it was a friends or family member, but I don't know for sure. Other than that, I have never seen it around. I guess it is possible that it is C.S.'s and he keeps it in Michigan, but I don't think so. It certainly wasn't around anywhere near the time of the disappearance.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:06 PM
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Close observer, Growing up on LI, NY, with the great south bay as a possibility......suppose cs had it a little south of Plainfield.....even if it isn't his....he has acess to it. IT is in HIS driveway....where was its last location
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:14 PM
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Close observer, Growing up on LI, NY, with the great south bay as a possibility......suppose cs had it a little south of Plainfield.....even if it isn't his....he has acess to it. IT is in HIS driveway....where was its last location
Yeah! Who's boat is it?!

SP had never parked his boat at his house. Even his wife and mom and dad and MIL and FIL didn't know he had a boat!

LE, SW it!!!

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Old 07-28-2007, 10:57 AM
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Close observer, Growing up on LI, NY, with the great south bay as a possibility......suppose cs had it a little south of Plainfield.....even if it isn't his....he has acess to it. IT is in HIS driveway....where was its last location
The only time I ever recall seeing the boat in his driveway was the weekend after the 4th. The boat actually showed up on the 5th. I think that is the same weekend that Amy Jacobson got filmed at his house. That means, the boat coincides with C.S.'s sister being in town. I assumed the boat to be his sister's and her husband's, but I'm not sure. I assumed they all went fishing that weekend.

The boat is fairly large and would need to be on a fairly large body of water. It also needs a decent landing to put it in the water. If it were a local boat, I don't see them moving it to his driveway prior to a fishing trip. It just doesn't seem the type of boat that could/would be used for a body dump because it would not be descreet.

Nothing is impossible, though.
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:54 PM
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The only time I ever recall seeing the boat in his driveway was the weekend after the 4th. The boat actually showed up on the 5th. I think that is the same weekend that Amy Jacobson got filmed at his house. That means, the boat coincides with C.S.'s sister being in town. I assumed the boat to be his sister's and her husband's, but I'm not sure. I assumed they all went fishing that weekend.

The boat is fairly large and would need to be on a fairly large body of water. It also needs a decent landing to put it in the water. If it were a local boat, I don't see them moving it to his driveway prior to a fishing trip. It just doesn't seem the type of boat that could/would be used for a body dump because it would not be descreet.

Nothing is impossible, though.
Except maybe under the cover of darkness?
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:15 PM
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I don't thing the boat isn't C.S.'s. It only showed up about 3 weeks ago for a couple of days. I think it was a friends or family member, but I don't know for sure. Other than that, I have never seen it around. I guess it is possible that it is C.S.'s and he keeps it in Michigan, but I don't think so. It certainly wasn't around anywhere near the time of the disappearance.
Ouch, I'm embarassed by my grammar. I think faster than I type and don't proof read.
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:33 PM
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Ouch, I'm embarassed by my grammar. I think faster than I type and don't proof read.
No worries, we're all subject to typos and such when hurrying to get a thought out there! I think we all figured it out anyway!
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:11 PM
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Well, no matter who's boat it is or was, LE is probably well aware if it is his and worthy of further inspection.

CS knows LE is watching him so he's going to be very careful what he did. But ya know, it only takes one little tiny mistake to take the whole house of cards down. LE is patient. Very, very, patient.

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Old 07-29-2007, 01:18 PM
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FWIW, they say 'money is the root of all evil.' IMHO, that's ONE of the reasons so many of these guys find it more to their benefit to make their wife disappear rather than getting a DIVORCE.

Well, with this new billboard campaign and the $60,000 Reward, perhaps, just perhaps, the RIGHT person will think twice aboutit, and tell LE what they know.

HEY, CRAIG! YOUR DAYS AS A FREE MAN ARE NUMBERED! tic,toc,tic,toc

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