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09-23-2007, 08:35 AM
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The article said it appeared the childs clothing was tossed from a MOVING car. This makes me think that more than one person was in the kidnap vehicle??
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09-23-2007, 09:33 AM
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09-23-2007, 10:36 AM
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I don't think anyone is attacking the child's mother. It takes so little time to snatch a child...
It is probable that the family did miss her right away. They could have been searching their own neighborhood at the same time she was found 8 miles away. I don't believe the article gives us a good time frame for exactly how long she was gone.
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09-23-2007, 10:43 AM
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News On 6 reporter Joshua Brakhage reports that detectives are hoping to get more information from the Tulsa crime lab.
Forensics experts are examining the little girl's clothes and shoes right now.
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Broken Arrow Police have little to go on in their investigation.
Friday, authorities said they were looking for a white man in a white vehicle. Saturday, it was confirmed the vehicle is a car, but they're still not sure on the make or model.
http://www.kotv.com/news/topstory/?id=136482
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09-23-2007, 12:34 PM
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For some reason this case has really been tormenting me over the last 24 hours.. maybe because I am a parnet of a child who is not far different in age than this little girl.. It brigns me to tears thinking abot how some sick perv can derive pleasure from a child who is experincing pain and terror that their hands. It just kills me to think of this little one and what she had to experience.. of her walking down that road in exposed, in pain, bleeding, and terrified. Some times it just seems like there is something so terribly wrong with our society that there are such cruel and hurtful perves running around in this world. My prayers go to the liilte girl and her fanily. I hope she can recover from this.. and I cant express how outraged and angry I am. There is no justice servere enough for this perp.
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09-23-2007, 10:51 PM
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Police say since Thursday's attack, two witnesses have identified the car the man was driving. The News On 6 is told a person saw a white, Dodge Intrepid in the area where the girl was dropped off. Another witness told officers they saw a white, Dodge Intrepid in the little girl's neighborhood.
http://www.kotv.com/news/topstory/?id=136530
At least, it is a lead! I know I will be scouring the area for the car every time I go out now.
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09-23-2007, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Camper
The article said it appeared the childs clothing was tossed from a MOVING car. This makes me think that more than one person was in the kidnap vehicle??
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I believe the little girl would be able to tell them if there were more than the one person in the vehicle. LE is only considering it to be one male at this time.
I assume what they mean is the way the clothing landed on or next to the road looked like it was tossed out the window, but does this mean he raped her IN his vehicle?
If so and they can find the car now...they will have the crime scene and tons of evidence. I am glad the witnesses came forward to point out the white Dodge Intrepid. Also, since they saw the car...did they give LE accurate descriptions of the man driving?! Hope so!
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09-23-2007, 11:08 PM
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B.A.C.A. stepped up to make the child feel secure now that she is home. This is an excellent program! They have huge hearts and they post huge men outside the child's home for security. They will even attend court hearings with the child...until it is all over and the perp is behind bars.
"We adopt that child into our family," Whitworth says. "We give them a leather vest with a small BACA patch on it, and put patches on it and give them the chains from our vest."
In times of crisis, members also post lookouts at victims' homes.
"So we are maintaining a vigilance around the home, that is to let the child be able to sleep at night, feel safe and secure, knowing that somebody's watching for them," says Radar Whitworth.
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0907/457870.html
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09-23-2007, 11:12 PM
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This story makes me so angry. I am amazed he didn't kill this child, however. Makes you wonder if she somehow escaped..... God bless the people who found her, and thank God they did!
The people who found the girl say it was a sight and sound they will never forget. "She was crying when I first got there and I sat her on my knee and tried to comfort her the best I could." Billy Graham is just one of the people who found the girl, bleeding and crying. “I broke down a little bit. I tried not to let her see me because she was already going through enough drama." Graham says he called for his wife, who was inside their home. She says when she saw the little girl, it was just heartbreaking to think what had happened to her. The Grahams say they did all they could to comfort the girl, but it wasn't until their dog molly came over that the child began to calm down. They say she told them she had two little dogs at home."
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09-23-2007, 11:48 PM
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I hope the pig that did this to this precious child is found and killed on the spot. Hopefully he'll try to run from LE and they can shoot him...dead.
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09-24-2007, 01:43 PM
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I hope the pig that did this to this precious child is found and killed on the spot. Hopefully he'll try to run from LE and they can shoot him...dead.
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Then again, it would be an easy way out for him. He should be tortured for awhile, IMO.
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09-24-2007, 05:38 PM
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Quote:
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I hope the pig that did this to this precious child is found and killed on the spot. Hopefully he'll try to run from LE and they can shoot him...dead.
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You have such a way with words  Glad you said it so I didn't have to.
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09-24-2007, 05:44 PM
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The first man who found her was pretty smart to immediately get help from someone else before he did anything. He would have found himself in the middle of this investigation quickly. I guess they still have to look at both men who found her, but they should be able to rule them out fast.
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09-24-2007, 06:14 PM
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Has there been any kind of a description released for this suspect?
Check out the MO on this one
http://www.therepublic.com/main.asp?...19&TM=76973.16
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Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?
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09-24-2007, 06:20 PM
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The only description they have given out so far is white male.
It is interesting because his MO does match! How many perps toss their clothes out the window after kidnapping and raping them?
Weird...I just read about Hollin a few minutes ago on a news website. They didn't mention that about the clothes and car. Thanks for posting!
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09-24-2007, 07:57 PM
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Then again, it would be an easy way out for him. He should be tortured for awhile, IMO.
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Excellent point SS.
I tell ya, my heart is aching after reading about these cases today.
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09-24-2007, 07:58 PM
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I consider that a compliment strach304! 
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09-25-2007, 03:18 AM
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I wonder why they don't have a pic of that Hollin guy posted? They seem to know plenty about him. I agree the MO fits so if he struck in In. then possibly he is on the run and could be in Ok.
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09-25-2007, 01:00 PM
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Quote:
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I wonder why they don't have a pic of that Hollin guy posted? They seem to know plenty about him. I agree the MO fits so if he struck in In. then possibly he is on the run and could be in Ok.
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There is a pic of Hollin at this link
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/14177644/detail.html
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Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........
Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?
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09-25-2007, 01:08 PM
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The FBI is working on her case and I am sure they are aware of him plus his MO. They could be taking time to track his whereabouts and are not wanting to tip him off that they suspect it is him. I am sure they are searching hotels, motels, and other places in the area for the vehicle and any sign of this guy. I am willing to bet the people who saw the white Dodge Intrepid can give descriptions of the person driving since they came up with white male already. They are probably working on sketches right now.
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09-28-2007, 04:11 AM
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Broken Arrow Police have released an updated description of the suspect they are looking for in the recent kidnapping and sexual assault of a 5-year-old girl. Police say the suspect is described as a white, fair-skinned male, with short thinning light colored hair, partially bald. The suspect’s age range is approximately 30 to 40-years-old. The suspect did not have facial hair or eyeglasses at the time of the assault.
Broken Arrow Police have also updated the suspect’s vehicle description. Police Major Mark Irwin says they are now looking for a smaller white car.
http://www.kotv.com/news/popular/?id=136717
They mentioned they are working on sketches now. Good!
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Here is another case of an attempted abduction!! Grrrr!
Tulsa Police are investigating a close call this weekend at a Tulsa elementary school. Police say a couple unsuccessfully tried to abduct a fourth-grader at Darnaby Elementary School. News On 6 reporter Chris Wright reports that authorities say the young girl handled the situation perfectly.
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Tulsa Police say several kids were playing on Darnaby's playground near 87th and Memorial Saturday evening when a white or beige Mitsubishi Montero pulled up.
http://www.kotv.com/news/popular/?id=136610
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09-28-2007, 04:18 AM
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The only appropriate punishment for something like this is castration. It deals with the original crime and prevents it from happening again.
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09-28-2007, 06:19 AM
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We did have the death penalty....
Until the 'do gooders' intervened with cries of 'it's inhumane'.
I'd love to see it brought back, but even then, these POS Pedo's would sit on death row for years and years, through appeal after appeal.....still breathing, while their victims live out their life sentences tortured by memories and flashbacks.
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It wouldn't do you any good to have the death penalty. Only murderers who refuse to plead guilty, who refuse to make a deal and people who didn't actually murder anyone but were there when one happened get the death penalty.
These PREDATORS aren't the ones who get it. They get sentenced, then let OUT on probation/parole (big whoop.)
The question for me is, HOW can someone do this and BE LET BACK OUT? I can see letting someone back out who drove a getaway car after his buddy shot someone. I CAN NOT see how a child predator that could do something like this can ever see the light of day again.
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Im not sure why we dont have it SS....but its time that it was put to the vote..I know a lot of Aussies who agree that our worse murders should be put to death, or maybe your zoo idea would be more fun..we have lots of open spaces down here
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I read somewhere that it costs much much more for to prisoner on death row than it does just to let them sit there and rot their sorry lives away....
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I read somewhere that it costs much much more for to prisoner on death row than it does just to let them sit there and rot their sorry lives away....
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You probably saw it the same place as me Poco During the Laci Peterson case there was quite a bit about that published. It is because of the automatic appeal and then all the legal costs involved. The difference was huge.
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