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10-19-2007, 11:28 AM
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10-19-2007, 12:58 PM
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10-19-2007, 03:10 PM
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One thing I have noticed, Look at the spelling mr Kyle is using for Benjaman, When I have googled that it asks me if I mean Benjamin. It seems that is the MORE COMMON spelling, BENJAMIN. and Benjamin could also be a last name his dads name, his sons name. I went to school with a girl with the last name Benjamin. Here in Indiana
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The name Benjaman is only what he feels is familiar to him and he feels this is the way it is spelled. It could have actually nothing to do with his real name, but be the band that recorded his favorite song at one time or was a childhood friend. I think we have to keep in mind his memories could be incorrect. As in the story someone posted earlier, the memories the man had of having children etc. proved to be false memories.
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10-19-2007, 04:36 PM
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I would love to work on this one. I am here in GA. Working on some TV stuff, hopefully....would love to do something on this guy. I just found this case by accident (love that New posts button)....I am printing the thread now to catch up. I would like LTWH to advocate for this guy.
Is there anything specific I can do to help you all?
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10-19-2007, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by christine2448
I would love to work on this one. I am here in GA. Working on some TV stuff, hopefully....would love to do something on this guy. I just found this case by accident (love that New posts button)....I am printing the thread now to catch up. I would like LTWH to advocate for this guy.
Is there anything specific I can do to help you all?
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Hmmm...you can get some rest and quit hitting that New Posts button!!
I think we are moving along well on this one, Christine. Of course, if there is anything you could find in local newspaper archives involving a possible scenario on or before August 21, 2004 which could be connected it would be great! : ) I would also like LTWH to advocate for Benjaman!
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10-19-2007, 05:10 PM
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Byline: Eric Peterson Daily Herald Staff Writer Schaumburg resident James J. McGinn was reported missing a year ago today, and police are renewing their efforts to enlist the public's help in finding the 55-year-old. McGinn was last seen by relatives on May 17, 2003, leaving Riverwoods in his 1996 green, four-door Ford Taurus with Illinois license plates KARMC1.
Schaumburg Police Lt. Dennis Carroll said a medical condition of McGinn's has kept the search for him a priority throughout the past year. "He's bipolar and was suffering from depression at the time," ..
Can anyone else find anything else out about this one? I know yall are amazing at searching and can find things I have looked for constantly....I can't find out if this guy was ever found or anything. I logged into my military account and they have a newspaper article searcher there, that is amazing.......I have been looking for anything in Colorado and I am coming up empty so far. I am still looking and almost done with the google news colorado search though.
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10-19-2007, 05:15 PM
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I just talked to the reporter at the Daily Herald. I directed him to our site so he could compare the photo he has to Benjaman's and he doesn't believe it is him. He is going to try to email me the photo they have for Mr. McGinn so we can be certain.
He was very cooperative and I appreciate him taking time to help us. Thank you, Mr. Peterson.
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10-19-2007, 10:04 PM
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Thanks so much SS, being over here in Europe it is hard with the time difference and phone costs to call stateside numbers, You guys are the best!!!!!!!!
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10-19-2007, 10:13 PM
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I just renewed my subscription to the newspaper archives and found an article on James McGinn. He doesn't look like Benjaman to me, but it is only a black-and-white photo in the newspaper. Maybe Mr. Peterson has a better copy.
I'll search the newspaper archives for info on Benjaman too
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10-20-2007, 12:20 AM
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Here is the photo of Mr. McGinn and I don't think he is a match to our BK either, but I will start another thread for him in our missing forum:
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10-20-2007, 02:07 AM
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I am coming up so empty.....every time I think I found a close possibility, I try and find out more about it and find out they were found or remains were found that were theirs. This is so strange, is it one we have already looked at?? I am really wondering if one of the other missing that we ruled out based on something might be him.
I wonder if we can find out more about Thomas Ray James, for some reason I keep coming back to him. I know it says brown eyes but everything else adds up, besides the eye color.
It just seems like this guy came out of nowhere, I can see for sure how he is definately frustrated. I am really starting to wonder if any of the information he has remembered is correct at all. Benjaman is such an odd spelling that we should have been able to find something easy.
Ok if he was exposed to the sun so badly he was blind, and he was severly sunburned, then that makes you think of a boating accident of some sort. But then again he was naked, so how far could he have gotten if it was a boating accident before someone seen him walking naked and called cops or something, so maybe someone dropped him off there naked???
I am so confused...but there is no trace of him almost.
I finished Colorado by the way and nothing....everything that I did find the person has been found or the remains were and id'd.
Let me know what yall think we should do next......
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10-20-2007, 03:00 AM
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Dimples~ It is rather like he appeared out of thin air, doesn't it? Just materialized...naked and in bad shape. At the time, Georgia was experiencing a heat wave (I think). If he layed out in the sun all day, it would account for the burns etc.
We have to assume he didn't walk there naked unless it was in the middle of the night and no one noticed.
*If he were dumped there, who and why would they have reason to leave him naked?
*Did they steal his clothes, ID, and money?
*Why would anyone want secondhand underwear or socks?
*What would have caused him to lay in the sun and bake so brutally without waking up?
*Did anyone mention if there were alcohol or drugs found in his system right after they found him?
*Was a tox screen done?
*Were there any tan lines showing he wore jewelry?
*What did the beard growth on his face/neck look like?
*Were there tan lines showing he wore glasses or sunglasses?
*What shape were his teeth in? Had they been brushed recently?
*Were his fingernails long and unkept? Filthy? Toenails?
*Can we get photos of him when he was found or any more information from LE?
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10-20-2007, 04:06 AM
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Very good questions SS! You should PM them to Benjaman.
I've marked Colorado as done and I'm about done with Oregon. There really needs to be a one stop missing persons database with a good search engine.
ETA: I keep wondering about the cataracts. It's stated that his blindness was later discovered to be caused by them and not sun damage. Am I understanding that correctly? Are cataracts hard to get treatment for? Does insurance balk at that? It seems that would be something that you couldn't ignore unless you were in a position such as being homeless and you then wouldn't have a choice.
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10-20-2007, 05:30 AM
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Yes SS it is like he appeared out of thin air.....You had the best ideas so far, all of those questions you have are vital information to help find out where he came from..........
Ok anyone know how far from where he was found to a beach or something? I did come across the fact that ....the time period he was found was when hurricane charley and jeanne had hit florida, in one article it said up to 900 missing or unnaccounted for at the time.
Let's try to get a better photo of Thomas Ray James.......I am not sure how to go about it, but I am sure some of you guys here have some ideas......
Thomas Ray James is missing from Michigan but his debit card had been used in Indiana and Ohio after he went missing, so just maybe that could be the Indiana memory.....I have no idea that is concrete.
We could rule him out and he is the only one so far that seems to fit the time frame exactly and circumstances. The only thing is the brown eyes. The size seems to fit, Thomas Ray James wore glasses which if they came off he could possibly have seemed blind. His car was found but he never was, he was last seen at a rest area where he could have hitchhiked.....The location his car was found in Morehead KY is a pretty direct route to where Benjaman was found.
I found this as well......The lady at this link is in some way connected or is psychic or something....not real sure...didn't read all the pages just came up in a search, when searching for missing man amnesia.....it is on the front page a little ways down.
http://starlightinnerprizes.com/
I don't know everyone's opinion on contacting Brians Predictions guy, or someone like that but I guess it couldn't hurt. I just have a feeling it is something we overlooked or we are reading to much into his memories he has had.
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10-20-2007, 01:13 PM
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Brian manages to pop up in everycase! Unfortunately, he's a con artist that preys on a victims family members and friends. He changes his drawings as the facts of a case comes out. He's entertaining, but that's about all he is.
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10-20-2007, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SuziQ
Brian manages to pop up in everycase! Unfortunately, he's a con artist that preys on a victims family members and friends. He changes his drawings as the facts of a case comes out. He's entertaining, but that's about all he is.
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I am all for using a psychic, however, you won't find a reputable psychic on television, the internet, or even one who charges for their "gift", imo. This is one area I have learned to stay away from on this website. Families of missing who have been literally terrorized and hurt by so-called psychics get quite upset when the subject arises, unfortunately. I would suggest we simply leave it alone.
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10-20-2007, 06:44 PM
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Yeah that makes sense, I just don't even know where else to go in this case. I did finish Colorado, so which state would be good next? I just can't even see how there seems to be nothing anywhere. Have you heard from his nurse or anyone who might have photos of him closer to when he was found?
Are there any other memories or thoughts that he has had? Did anyone from the Richmond Hill area ever come forth with any tips at all? Someone somewhere has to know or have seen something.
Anymore ideas anyone? What do you think I should try next SS?
Thanks yall,
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10-21-2007, 02:42 AM
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Try Maine. I don't think this has been covered and it is certainly upstream.
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10-21-2007, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SuziQ
Done!
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Here are the states we have done...pick another! LOL
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10-21-2007, 02:59 AM
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I just had another thought...it was mentioned BK could have been presumed dead in something like Hurricane Charley. Could he have been presumed dead in the Sept. 11 attacks?
Do we know what caused his amnesia? Was he found with a recent head injury that is presumed to have caused the amnesia, or could a psychological trauma have caused him to go into dissociative fugue?
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10-21-2007, 03:27 AM
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At this point, it could have been anything. What troubles me about it is the fact he keeps saying it is like he lost the past 20 years...so what does he really remember about the rest of the 30?
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10-21-2007, 04:35 AM
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SS I agree, it is hard for us to find anything out when we don't have all the information.....If he is only missing the last 20 years, then it seems like there would be more memories or something. Has anyone heard from his nurse lately?
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10-21-2007, 04:42 AM
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SS I agree, it is hard for us to find anything out when we don't have all the information.....If he is only missing the last 20 years, then it seems like there would be more memories or something. Has anyone heard from his nurse lately?
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Yes, she posted not long ago. I will feel much better if she can help answer the questions I have presented tho. Surely, someone can. Who was the LE agency on that case at the time?! We should probably go straight to them for such info.
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10-21-2007, 04:56 AM
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I was wondering about the 20-year gap too. Perhaps he has a vague memory of being 20 years younger, but can't remember anything else beyond that. Also, if his amnesia is caused by dissociative fugue, this very well could have happened to him several times throughout his life. In the other cases I've read about, the people went missing multiple times. Each time Jeffrey Ingram went missing, he lost his memory of everything prior. But there are different types of memory, and if I remember this correctly from my college classes (psych major), episodic memory is the one they lose (specific events in their lives), while still retaining semantic memory (factual knowledge such as Denver is the capital of Colorado) and procedural (how to tie your shoes, play the piano, etc.) The mind is a complex thing!
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