Benjaman Kyle - Those who still need investigation - WE NEED YOUR HELP!

[believe09]

Originally Posted by dreamweaver

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/boyt_luther.html
Luther O Boyt: Missing since 2000, from Kansas City, MO.
From charley project picture, he appears to weigh more than the 230 lbs listed.

Although I do not think he looks anything like BK, I think his story is compelling...

[mae]

Originally Posted by dreamweaver

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/boyt_luther.html
Luther O Boyt: Missing since 2000, from Kansas City, MO.
From charley project picture, he appears to weigh more than the 230 lbs listed.

Posted on another thread:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...&postcount=342

believe09 wrote: "Lets see, BK has lost weight since he was found, and he still tops Dewey by 30 pounds. There is a height difference as well, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion."

Just thought I would mention with regards to weight.

[believe09]

Originally Posted by believe09

Although I do not think he looks anything like BK, I think his story is compelling...

Sorry to quote myself-what I meant to say was that I think this individual has a story worth looking into, but not in relationship to BK. As a missing individual himself....did that make any more sense, lol?

[Earthbound Misfit I]

I found this post listed on ancestry.com website. Has anyone researched this guy yet?

Missing brother in law Larry W. EVANS, Last known location Fort Lauderdale, Florida

gmabud1 (View posts) Posted: 3 Jan 2009 8:42PM
Classification: Query
Surnames: Evans


I am still trying to find the whereabouts of my brother in law Larry W. Evans. DOB 08-07-1949. Last known location is Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33312. We have not heard from him in years, and would at least like to know if he is alive. He also goes by the nick name Radar. Any information would be helpful. Thank you, Reva Evans

[Earthbound Misfit I]

From classified ad:
http://www.classifiedads.com/missed_...-ad1277798.htm

MISSING BROTHER WANTED

United States → Colorado → Denver → Personals → Missed Connections
Ad #1277798
Contact: Valerie
Address
City: Denver
State Colorado Zip
Phone: (Removed by RKnowley)
Type

Created December 31, 2008 UpdatedDecember 31, 2008 Expires: July 2, 2009
Viewed:56 times

Missing: Bruce Douglas Allen, age 56, graphic artist for sign company somewhere in the greater Denver area. Last seen about 15 years ago. Last spoke with about 3 years ago.

If you know my brother, PLEASE, PLEASE ask him to call me. I love him and would very much like to hear his voice again. He would be working in a sign company somewhere in the area.

Thank you for your help.

[kittykat1]

Rknowley,

Are you able to obtain any pictures from the families?

Thanks,

[chaddylex]

RKnowley,

Are you going to contact the sister and let her know about BK or even get a pic of her missing brother?

Chaddylex

[dreamweaver]

Originally Posted by RKnowley

I found this post listed on ancestry.com website. Has anyone researched this guy yet?

Missing brother in law Larry W. EVANS, Last known location Fort Lauderdale, Florida

gmabud1 (View posts) Posted: 3 Jan 2009 8:42PM
Classification: Query
Surnames: Evans


I am still trying to find the whereabouts of my brother in law Larry W. Evans. DOB 08-07-1949. Last known location is Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33312. We have not heard from him in years, and would at least like to know if he is alive. He also goes by the nick name Radar. Any information would be helpful. Thank you, Reva Evans

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RKnowley: I did an online search in Florida.
There are a couple of Larry W Evans. No pictures. No age.
I did an obit search for Fl., but none found.
Of course, it can be easy to miss a name. His is fairly common.

Maybe she could start a thread with pictures. Or post a picture here.?

[dreamweaver]

Originally Posted by RKnowley

From classified ad:
http://www.classifiedads.com/missed_...-ad1277798.htm

MISSING BROTHER WANTED

United States → Colorado → Denver → Personals → Missed Connections
Ad #1277798
Contact: Valerie
Address
City: Denver
State Colorado Zip
Phone: (Removed by RKnowley)
Type

Created December 31, 2008 UpdatedDecember 31, 2008 Expires: July 2, 2009
Viewed:56 times

Missing: Bruce Douglas Allen, age 56, graphic artist for sign company somewhere in the greater Denver area. Last seen about 15 years ago. Last spoke with about 3 years ago.

If you know my brother, PLEASE, PLEASE ask him to call me. I love him and would very much like to hear his voice again. He would be working in a sign company somewhere in the area.

Thank you for your help.

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In her ad, she says she last talked with him about 3 yrs ago. It has been 4 1/2 yrs since BK was beaten, Aug. 31, 2004.

I did just do an online check of Denver and Bruce Allen, showed 2 men. I hope she has called them. http://www.whitepages.com/search/Fin...caltime=survey
white pages: 14 Bruce Allen's:

[Earthbound Misfit I]

Yes, I am going to contact the sister and the sister-in-law to see if they will give me a physical description & photos of their brother & brother-in-law.

Originally Posted by chaddylex

RKnowley,

Are you going to contact the sister and let her know about BK or even get a pic of her missing brother?

Chaddylex

[Earthbound Misfit I]

I do understand her ad says she talked to him about 3 years ago. I still think it's worthwhile to contact her and ask for a physical description as well as a photo of him. She may be off on when she last talked to him, etc. I know with me the years would all blend together after awhile.

Originally Posted by dreamweaver

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In her ad, she says she last talked with him about 3 yrs ago. It has been 4 1/2 yrs since BK was beaten, Aug. 31, 2004.

I did just do an online check of Denver and Bruce Allen, showed 2 men. I hope she has called them. http://www.whitepages.com/search/Fin...caltime=survey
white pages: 14 Bruce Allen's:

[Coffeelover]

I found many Larry Evans in FL while searching Intelius for Lawrence W Evans, L W Evans, Larry W Evans etc. They range in age from 49-99, and in several cases names of relatives are listed. For a $1.95 (they have a sale) you can get additional info. But I guess you could always look at Whitepages once you know the city.

There are also several Bruce D. Allens in various cities in CO.

[Earthbound Misfit I]

Looks like we can rule this one out as being Benjaman. Here is his physcial description:

Re: Missing brother in law Larry W. EVANS, Last known location Fort Lauderdale, Florida


gmabud1 (View posts) Posted: 15 Jan 2009 2:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames:


He is about 5'7", medium build, he used to have a mustache, strawberry blonde hair and thick horned rimmed glasses. The most recent picture I have is about 20yrs old. But I will find it so I can post it. According to the people he used to live with, he used to work at Joey's Place. Thats been awhile though.

Reva

Originally Posted by RKnowley

I found this post listed on ancestry.com website. Has anyone researched this guy yet?

Missing brother in law Larry W. EVANS, Last known location Fort Lauderdale, Florida

gmabud1 (View posts) Posted: 3 Jan 2009 8:42PM
Classification: Query
Surnames: Evans


I am still trying to find the whereabouts of my brother in law Larry W. Evans. DOB 08-07-1949. Last known location is Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33312. We have not heard from him in years, and would at least like to know if he is alive. He also goes by the nick name Radar. Any information would be helpful. Thank you, Reva Evans

[believe09]

Could Be!!
I have read all the threads on BK, made myself notes, copied all of the links presented and I did not see this one http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/king_patrick.html (No eye color or physical description, here) King disappeared from Indiana, though!
But, Ol BecBec's eyes, be tied (southern slang for tired), from all that readin', whew! I tried to post this in the possible matches thread, but, no luck (I'm still figuring out how to do all this) I'll wait patiently, to see what you all think. I'll let whomever is staying in contact with BK, FBI, etc., be the ones to submit this, if it's close enough. (I believe that's Christine or Gina)
I found this fella sometime back, but, didn't want to post it until I knew for sure it hadn't already done! Mr. King sure does look like, what I would imagine, a younger BK would look like and how appropriate that his last name would be King! Mmmmm....could be a sign!

This is a copy paste from MadeaBecBec-Let's dig into Mr. King further and at least get a DOB, height etc??? Do any other sites carry him other than charley project??

[dreamweaver]

Originally Posted by believe09

Could Be!!
I have read all the threads on BK, made myself notes, copied all of the links presented and I did not see this one http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/king_patrick.html (No eye color or physical description, here) King disappeared from Indiana, though!
But, Ol BecBec's eyes, be tied (southern slang for tired), from all that readin', whew! I tried to post this in the possible matches thread, but, no luck (I'm still figuring out how to do all this) I'll wait patiently, to see what you all think. I'll let whomever is staying in contact with BK, FBI, etc., be the ones to submit this, if it's close enough. (I believe that's Christine or Gina)
I found this fella sometime back, but, didn't want to post it until I knew for sure it hadn't already done! Mr. King sure does look like, what I would imagine, a younger BK would look like and how appropriate that his last name would be King! Mmmmm....could be a sign!

This is a copy paste from MadeaBecBec-Let's dig into Mr. King further and at least get a DOB, height etc??? Do any other sites carry him other than charley project??

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I posted info about Patrick E King on the other thread.
Doe Network link:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/684dmin.html
/one added piece of information, Mr King's truck had its license plate removed.

[christine2448]

We started a subforum to spread out with possible matches...so they can be done in separate threads to keep things from being so confusing.

There are also "prefixes" or "labels" that can be put in front of the thread to say 'submitted', 'ruled out', ect. This might also help keep organized.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=319

To get an idea of set up, we did this in Grateful Dead Fan forum, you can view it here (still setting up the prefixes):

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=314

[christine2448]

Originally Posted by believe09

Could Be!!
I have read all the threads on BK, made myself notes, copied all of the links presented and I did not see this one http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/king_patrick.html (No eye color or physical description, here) King disappeared from Indiana, though!
But, Ol BecBec's eyes, be tied (southern slang for tired), from all that readin', whew! I tried to post this in the possible matches thread, but, no luck (I'm still figuring out how to do all this) I'll wait patiently, to see what you all think. I'll let whomever is staying in contact with BK, FBI, etc., be the ones to submit this, if it's close enough. (I believe that's Christine or Gina)
I found this fella sometime back, but, didn't want to post it until I knew for sure it hadn't already done! Mr. King sure does look like, what I would imagine, a younger BK would look like and how appropriate that his last name would be King! Mmmmm....could be a sign!

This is a copy paste from MadeaBecBec-Let's dig into Mr. King further and at least get a DOB, height etc??? Do any other sites carry him other than charley project??

Do you want me to start this as a poss match thread for sleuthing?

[carolwood]

What about this on Paul Alan Vogen:

http://www.phoenix.gov/police/missing_paul_vogen.pdf

[dreamweaver]

Originally Posted by carolwood

What about this on Paul Alan Vogen:

http://www.phoenix.gov/police/missing_paul_vogen.pdf

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Paul A Vogen: age now 55.
brownish blonde hair, blue eyes, 5' 11'',
hair parted on different side than BK,but that does not really count.

Mr Vogen's shoulder line dips on one side. Unless that is just from the way he is posing for picture. So does BK's. BK's may be on the opposite side, cannot remember.

Wish we knew more about him and what they did when they found his car.

My vote: Do a side by side picture.

If it still looks good, maybe a call to Phoenix police dept., see if they have data like scars or tattoos or fingerprints. Is DNA available?

Anyone else?

[dreamweaver]

Paul A Vogen:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/vogen_paul.html
More pictures.
Side view of ear looks promising re: BK.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1290dmaz.html

http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/det...=1860405100346
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200705326S

[dreamweaver]

Paul A Vogen: age 55, lives in AZ, had lived in Ca., per ussearch.
Odd? Hmm.
Could be someone else entirely.

http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/...archtab=people

2 other Paul Vogen's found, both elderly, one lives in FL, age 80 and
the other lives in GA, age 79.

[Cubby]

Originally Posted by believe09

Could Be!!
I have read all the threads on BK, made myself notes, copied all of the links presented and I did not see this one http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/king_patrick.html (No eye color or physical description, here) King disappeared from Indiana, though!
But, Ol BecBec's eyes, be tied (southern slang for tired), from all that readin', whew! I tried to post this in the possible matches thread, but, no luck (I'm still figuring out how to do all this) I'll wait patiently, to see what you all think. I'll let whomever is staying in contact with BK, FBI, etc., be the ones to submit this, if it's close enough. (I believe that's Christine or Gina)
I found this fella sometime back, but, didn't want to post it until I knew for sure it hadn't already done! Mr. King sure does look like, what I would imagine, a younger BK would look like and how appropriate that his last name would be King! Mmmmm....could be a sign!

This is a copy paste from MadeaBecBec-Let's dig into Mr. King further and at least get a DOB, height etc??? Do any other sites carry him other than charley project??

No stone unturned. I do see a strong resemblence in the eye area. (and maybe some matching sun spots in the forhead area or could poor pic's of Mr. King?) The age difference may be due to stressful circumstances BK had prior to his assualt. Can we find out if Mr. King has prints listed with LE and Mr. Kyles interest or lack of in hunting? I'm still working with the computer problems so not sure how much I might find but will take a look.

ETA; Do we want to leave this pm in this thread or bring it over to the new area? I agree with keeping them seperate so the discussion on each can easily be found.

ETA again: Um, and whose blood was in the truck?

[carolwood]

I call Phoenix tomorrow and see if they have prints. I know there are dentals. I'll check to see if there is any hold back info.

[carolwood]

How do we move something into the new thread. I click on thread nothing, clicked on thread starter, nothing. Help
I am assuming the new thread is for submitted's?

[dreamweaver]

Originally Posted by dreamweaver

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I posted info about Patrick E King on the other thread.
Doe Network link:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/684dmin.html
/one added piece of information, Mr King's truck had its license plate removed.

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my post brought over from other thread....

Patrick E King:
Gee, hard to tell.
He would be 46 now. That is young for BK.
Ears are covered, cannot judge by that.
No eye color given.
Blood, fingerprints and hair found in his pickup truck. Was it his or the assailants?
Charley Project page does not say.
--- another site
http://www.in.gov/isp/2614.htm