Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #4

[SeriouslySearching]

She was a tiny girl and I don't see it being a problem for him to maneuver her out the door with that teddy bear. I have always thought he was using it to cover her face since he didn't have anything else handy besides the blanket which was dropped. (His MO was that he covered their faces or tried to.) It always has bothered me that she was instantly cold in her jammies. (sigh) I know it sounds odd since it would be the least of her worries at that point, but it just bothers me.

[teacherbonnie]

Paddy TY for looking into it further. Knowing TOD maybe doesn't really matter but if I was Bri's mom, it would matter to me.

On Monday, when the businesses/offices/schools fill with workers again, I hope everyone looks twice at all males.

[JDB]

Originally Posted by bigbuck

I understand but, I'm still trying to picture him gagging her then taking her away with a two foot teddy bear! Was she carried? dragged or, did he somehow force her compliance? While he led her away holding that large bear over her face??

Excuse the pun. But can you say bear hug from behind and took her out the back door.

[LionRun]

I agree SS. He may have used the teddy bear to muffle her voice and/or to asphyxiate her. Or, sadly Brianna may have held on tightly to that teddy bear as she was taken away. Either way, the teddy bear was taken along with Brianna.

Lion

[KR2tonenow]

Do we know yet if this perp kept her "captive"? If we could nail down the time, then how was perp able to disguise body for so long. He had to be single, or clearly another case of the spouse being completely ignorant or did he put her in a car? I think she was in the field one week, where could he have kept her?

There should have been approx time of death, by now. Did the snow reduce decomposition?

>snip From 2 News, 2/16:

"John says they recovered evidence at the scene that will aid in the investigation but declined to describe it. He also says they don't want to be any more specific about how long the body had been in the field because that was something only the killer and law officers know.
>snip

[KR2tonenow]

How can we help if they wont give us more answers?

<snip
RENO, Nev., Feb. 17 (UPI) -- Police in Reno, Nev., are asking for help to find the man who killed Brianna Denison, a University of Nevada student abducted almost a month ago.

The Reno (Nev.) Gazette-Journal reported Sunday that police have linked Denison's abduction to at least two other sexual assaults in the area.

"We're entering a phase of the investigation now that is going to continue to need the assistance (of the public)," said Reno Police Deputy Chief Jim Johns. "I want to re-encourage members of our community to focus on the suspect's description and on the suspect's vehicle description."

Denison, 18, disappeared from a friend's house near the Reno campus Jan. 20. Her body was found Friday in a field.

"Somewhere in our community there is a wife, a mom, a girlfriend, a sister who recognizes this suspect," Johns said.

>snip

[paddy01]

Originally Posted by KR2tonenow

Do we know yet if this perp kept her "captive"? If we could nail down the time, then how was perp able to disguise body for so long. He had to be single, or clearly another case of the spouse being completely ignorant or did he put her in a car? I think she was in the field one week, where could he have kept her?

There should have been approx time of death, by now. Did the snow reduce decomposition?

>snip From 2 News, 2/16:

"John says they recovered evidence at the scene that will aid in the investigation but declined to describe it. He also says they don't want to be any more specific about how long the body had been in the field because that was something only the killer and law officers know.
>snip

SS, found out some new information that Brianna had been at Mel's
diner on the night she disappeared. That's why I did search of stomach
contents. Go back & look at my post. A few of us speculated whether
he kept her or disposed of her right away. If she was covered by snow
immediately after death, stomach content would contain last meal eaten.

[adnoid]

Originally Posted by paddy01

SS, I have read everything I can get my hands on & no where does it say that Brianna ate at Mel's diner. Where did you find that? I looked on link,
figured thats why you posted it, am I wrong?

I heard that early on - and I posted some photos of Mel's Diner on the previous thread.

To answer a question from yesterday - the field where she was found had not been checked before, but the teams were scheduled to check a lot of open fields that had been covered with snow until recently.

[paddy01]

Originally Posted by adnoid

I heard that early on - and I posted some photos of Mel's Diner on the previous thread.

To answer a question from yesterday - the field where she was found had not been checked before, but the teams were scheduled to check a lot of open fields that had been covered with snow until recently.

Oh brother, don't know how I missed that about Mel's. So it's possible that she has been there all along? Or did someone say this is well traveled path?

[LionRun]

Does anyone know where I can find the link that shows that Brianna did in fact go to Mel's Diner and eat something just before her disappearance? Sorry, I must have missed it.

Lion

[paddy01]

Originally Posted by LionRun

Does anyone know where I can find the link that shows that Brianna did in fact go to Mel's Diner and eat something just before her disappearance? Sorry, I must have missed it.

Lion

You're not the only one!! Me too.

[Dark Knight]

Here is an article all about various chokeholds that might give some more ideas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokehold

I remember some of BTK's victims bit their tongues when strangled. Even though this is a somewhat different methodology, the physical reaction might be the same.

[bigbuck]

Originally Posted by JDB

Excuse the pun. But can you say bear hug from behind and took her out the back door.

I suppose you, Lion and SS are right. I guess I'm just trying to imagine a scenairo where Brianna manages to fight him off.

[paddy01]

Originally Posted by Dark Knight

Here is an article all about various chokeholds that might give some more ideas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokehold

I remember some of BTK's victims bit their tongues when strangled. Even though this is a somewhat different methodology, the physical reaction might be the same.

Just read your link, this was one of the first moves my SIL learned in
combat training he's in USMC. Him & his buddies use to practice on
each other, goofing around. It's quite effective.

[10EC_Dad]

Originally Posted by SuziQ

I wonder where the teddy bear is?

Excellent question that I forgot all about!!!

[adnoid]

Originally Posted by LionRun

Does anyone know where I can find the link that shows that Brianna did in fact go to Mel's Diner and eat something just before her disappearance? Sorry, I must have missed it.

Lion

A quick Google search on "denison mel's sands" yields this:

Family describes day before disappearance.

A friend picked up Brianna, whose car was in the shop. They went to the Sands Hotel and Casino, where a bus took the snowboarding group to a rap concert. The bus later took them back to the Sands, where Brianna and her friend ate breakfast at Mel’s Diner inside the casino. The women were then driven home by Hunter’s friends.

[LionRun]

This perp successfully rendered one of his previous victims unconscious, so he had a little practice and he grew to be be more bold. Unfortunately, it really isn't that difficult to abduct someone who is vulnerable as Brianna was. She was sleeping, laying down, and possibly still under the influence of drinking alcohol. Garry Hilton disabled a fully alert woman who had practiced martial arts and regularly hiked. Many twisted killers/rapists have done this. I think we all want to think that such slimes can be fought off. But, this is sadly and evidently not always the case.

Lion

[LionRun]

Originally Posted by adnoid

A quick Google search on "denison mel's sands" yields this:

Family describes day before disappearance.

Thanks adnoid.

Lion

[adnoid]

Originally Posted by SuziQ

I wonder where the teddy bear is?

LE has asked people to be on the lookout for it.

[adnoid]

Originally Posted by LionRun

...Unfortunately, it really isn't that difficult to abduct someone who is vulnerable as Brianna was. She was sleeping, laying down, and possibly still under the influence of drinking alcohol...

And tiny. 5 feet tall, 98 pounds.

I'm bigger than the suspect (and older), but he's probably in better shape than I am. My daughter had a couple of her friends spend the night last night, and one of them is 5' tall and 95 pounds. Granted, they are 14 years old, but still, I would have no trouble picking her up under one arm.

[LionRun]

So true, adnoid.

Lion

[adnoid]

I was wondering what the "SWAT 72" event is. Here's a video posted about it:

SWAT 72 2007

And here's the official site:

Summer Winter Action Tours

[paddy01]

Originally Posted by adnoid

I was wondering what the "SWAT 72" event is. Here's a video posted about it:

SWAT 72 2007

And here's the official site:

Summer Winter Action Tours

WOW, sure looks like a lot of fun, oh to be young again!

[Ca-Sun]

Originally Posted by adnoid

And tiny. 5 feet tall, 98 pounds.

I'm bigger than the suspect (and older), but he's probably in better shape than I am. My daughter had a couple of her friends spend the night last night, and one of them is 5' tall and 95 pounds. Granted, they are 14 years old, but still, I would have no trouble picking her up under one arm.

I'm 5'2" and weigh about 90 pounds. It's easy for people to pick me up and even carry me. And, they do it because they can.

[Ca-Sun]

I'm wondering why the dog in the bedroom right next to where Brianna was sleeping didn't bark? How did the attacker know the door was unlocked and he could gain entry without alerting anyone?