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Old 03-27-2008, 07:45 PM
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From the Sheriff of King County, WA

The first time I sent an email off to the sheriff's office of King County, WA was to ask him the following questions:

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Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 12:39 PM
To: Sheriff
Subject: Nicholas Francisco


I am emailing in regards to the disappearance of Nicholas Francisco that took place on February 13, 2008. Is his case still being classified as suspicious in nature or is it being classified as a voluntary missing persons case? Could you release what the results were in processing his car? Were fingerprints found that didn't belong to him? I believe the public would like to know if there should be an effort in trying to locate Nicholas or if it is believed that he is missing by choice? Are any searches being planned to try and locate Nicholas?

Thank you for any help you can give me.


This is his reply to my email:

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From: Sheriff <sheriff@kingcounty.gov>
To: ****
Sent: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 1:49 pm
Subject: RE: Nicholas Francisco
Sorry but the case is still under investigation so I can’t tell you the results of anything that was found in the car because that is evidence and we don’t talk about evidence in any case.



At this point we don’t know if Nicholas disappeared voluntarily or was the victim of foul play; however we have absolutely no evidence of the latter.



There are no searches currently planned.



Hope this helps!



Sgt. John Urquhart
Sheriff's Office Administration
King County Sheriff's Office
(206) 296-7528




Today I wrote to the sheriff again to tell him about TES. Here is my email to him:

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Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 3:05 PM
To: Sheriff
Subject: Re: Nicholas Francisco

Sgt. Urquhart,

I am sorry to bother you again. I promise this will be the last time unless there is good reason to do so again.

I am wondering if the King County, Washington Sheriff's Department has considered bringing in "Texas Equusearch" to do a search of Panther Lake for Nicholas and any items that may belong to him. It seems that Panther Lake would be a "place of interest" to search since his car was found at the Heritage Condominiums in Federal Way.

Texas Equusearch provides these services to the families of missing persons and also to Law Enforcement Agencies throughout the United States and have also provided their services in Aruba during the search for Natalee Holloway.

If you think Texas Equusearch could be of any service to you I have provided their website link below where you can find out more about their services and also find their contact information.
http://www.texasequusearch.org/

Best Wishes,



This is his reply to my email:

RE: Nicholas Francisco
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Sheriff to you - 37 min ago

*******, no worries, it’s not a bother at all.


No, we won’t be searching Panther Lake or any of the other six lakes that are less than two miles or so from where his car was found.


This is because we have no reason to believe his body may be in any of those lakes……or that he is even dead at all!


His wife is now publically saying that Nicholas was leading a “secret life” and that leads us even further away from a foul play theory.


Hope this helps.


Sgt. John Urquhart
Sheriff's Office Administration
King County Sheriff's Office
(206) 296-7528

Please note that IMO this is information coming directly from the sheriff's office. I have removed my name & email from the information I provided above.
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Old 03-27-2008, 07:45 PM
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well there is another question that will probably go unanswered, was he in the habbit of picking up hitchikers? some people do all the time, others are against it
If anyone has a link to the updated, updated "fact list" that Christine deleted, I'm almost postive she stated that he would NEVER pick up a hitchhiker.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:00 PM
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TRex did you read the article about the problems in Seattle with missing person cases? It was pretty disturbing. They also did mention they had other cases far more pressing to work on...........disheartening to say the least..
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:02 PM
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If anyone has a link to the updated, updated "fact list" that Christine deleted, I'm almost postive she stated that he would NEVER pick up a hitchhiker.
She also said he was dead and would never leave his family. That doesnt seem to be the case does it? Its really terrible to be so suspicious, someone could have approached him at the safeway for help of some kind. you never know. Never say Never is my Motto.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:03 PM
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This is his reply to my email:
Hmmmm...WOW....
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:04 PM
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Leading a Secret Life? OH Brother. Life is a Lemon and I want my Money
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No searches planned? Now that's LOVE. Love I dont wanna ever know.
Wow. I could never not search for someone i loved.

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Old 03-27-2008, 08:08 PM
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Hmmmm...WOW....
And RKnowley....thank you for taking time to attempt to get answers from the Sheriff and give us some direction here.

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Old 03-27-2008, 08:14 PM
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Maybe that explains the ad in the Phillipines newspaper.

http://www.balitapinoy.net/default.a...apinoy&he=.net

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Old 03-27-2008, 08:16 PM
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yw, Roxanne

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And RKnowley....thank you for taking time to attempt to get answers from the Sheriff and give us some direction here.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:22 PM
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Well I hope the sheriff asked for some sort of proof of a secret life. There was probably lots of email activity between Nicholas and whoever or whatever the secret life was and at least some witnesses. If there's nothing, then how the heck does he even know it's true. How does he even know that someone in the secret life didn't do him in if he tried to stop whatever he was doing. Christine was saying on the one site that finances were worse than she knew, but that doesn't sound quite right either. Maybe I was right about the bathing and morning coffee making being done out of guilt.

Also, if Christine knows that he ran off with another woman she is really in the wrong to be asking for donations instead of turning to family. So many women end up being left and no child support who get nothing except what help there is available from the government and help from family. She should be like everyone else and apply for these things.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:25 PM
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I'm sure that LE are still investigating Nic's case. They have reached no conclusions yet.

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Well I hope the sheriff asked for some sort of proof of a secret life. There was probably lots of email activity between Nicholas and whoever or whatever the secret life was and at least some witnesses. If there's nothing, then how the heck does he even know it's true. How does he even know that someone in the secret life didn't do him in if he tried to stop whatever he was doing. Christine was saying on the one site that finances were worse than she knew, but that doesn't sound quite right either. Maybe I was right about the bathing and morning coffee making being done out of guilt.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:25 PM
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I want to know why this isnt fraud?or is it?
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:26 PM
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Wow RK wow! Thanks for getting that info for us.

One of two things is going on here. Nicholas did leave, or Christine wants everyone to believe he did. What a complicated mess.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:28 PM
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When did his wife say he had a "secret life"? Link?
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:29 PM
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Is this just another way of trying to get everyone off the NF case? what is she hiding?
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:30 PM
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There is no link..only what the sheriff said.

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When did his wife say he had a "secret life"? Link?
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:31 PM
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dex it is right up there from the sherriff dept
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:36 PM
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Oh, OK- I thought perhaps she's posted it somewhere..
From all I've read, I never really got the impression there was a secret life mentioned. Other than saying the Paypal account was lower than thought..
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:44 PM
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Thanks, RKnowley. I would say my theory of him being gay would be right on target then and the reason his family isn't making any attempts to ask for help. Makes perfect sense to me.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:45 PM
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she never has said it to any of us , just LE . but I still am wondering about if this is just her way of getting people to stop looking including LE. what if he did have a secret life? then did she get mad and do him in herself? has she known this all along? what about people making all these donations to her including a house for the poor girl in trouble here.(and maybe he did just leave her stranded) but still men leave wives everyday in this country and woman dont go out begging for money from every tom dick and harry out there to support her? with a made up story about him missing.knowing what was going on I would think LE would have to be forced to make her stop.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:47 PM
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I think the "secret life" is another part of her big plan.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:54 PM
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I agree Rhonda!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:01 PM
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she never has said it to any of us , just LE . but I still am wondering about if this is just her way of getting people to stop looking including LE.
And it's working so far with LE.
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:05 PM
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LE isn't just going to take her word for it which means if you read between the lines you will figure out they have reason to believe it is true. Stick a fork in this case...because there will be no more leads to follow until Nicholas decides to surface or someone outs him.
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:10 PM
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I agree that LE isn't just going to listen and take Christine's word for it. They are still investigating. I am sure they are checking Nic's SS# for activity, his license, checked for tickets, etc. They will do that periodically for as long as the case goes unsolved.

If they had verification that Nic was alive and well somewhere the case would be closed.
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