Found Safe WA-NICHOLAS FRANCISCO, 28, Seattle WA 2/13/08 #4

[Danesgrandma]

Canada

[DeltaDawn]

RK..thank you for this info.

Obviously Nic left of his own accord, which Christine found out after researhing sources she was given.

I feel sorry for his children in the aftemath.

Christine, heartfelt wishes for you and your children.

HE could have at least sad good bye.

[Danesgrandma]

If LE says she has been saying this publically , where???? who knows about this turn of events, the news?the blogs?where?

[RhondaIL]

Originally Posted by Danesgrandma

If LE says she has been saying this publically , where???? who knows about this turn of events, the news?the blogs?where?

Maybe she told LE, a friend or neighbor.

[Chicogirl36]

Originally Posted by chronictonic

Posted at 10:05 pm, February 16 2008 EST
if you can not post something encouraging please do not post. I have two small kids and I'm pregnant. I don't need more to deal with. I just need my husband home.

Posted at 10:01 pm, February 16 2008 EST
rinnovibodyspa says:
please know i am terribly grieved and heartbroken as i am pregnant and my 4 year old and 2 year old have now broken down and are crying all day for their daddy. the only reason i am on here is because i haven't eaten since wednesday and i'm too weak and pregnant to be out .

Christine has a 4 and 2 year old and is pregnant with her third child.
Posted at 11:26 am, February 17 2008 EST

I am not giving up. Please don't you give up either. I am 7 weeks pregnant today with our 3rd child.
Posted at 9:50 pm, February 17 2008 EST

I felt our baby move last night. I was so excited I tried to call Nicholas to tell him but then i remembered......
Posted at 12:15 pm, February 18 2008 EST

CT- GREAT POSTS AND INFO!!
Sorry for chopping your post up so much, but LOOK at all of the inconsistancies in her due dates- MY Goodness- We heard she told him before his bday, on his bday, she is due in August, she is due in October- The list goes on- What is REALLY goin on? I have never heard of someone with so many inconsistant due dtes- especially when its your third- Usually you are a lil more in tune with how your body, baby, and hormones flow- JMHO

[abstr]

Wow...about what the Sherriff said. I wish he would have let us know where Christine said this publically. If she told the police that then the use of the word publically seems odd to me. MOO

Edited to add...If Nicholas is safe that is wonderful but it is sad to think he might leave his kids and wife this way without helping to prepare them for the future.

[Dexter17]

BTW- it was the reporter that said she was due in August; Christine herself said October.
I wonder if the Sheriff is interpreting some of her comments (like the margarita on the beach) as a "secret life"
I'd still like to see that statement in the media somewhere..
JMO

[DeltaDawn]

I believe the post from Rk is accurate..in light of the fact that Christine has backed off from finding him and bull dozed ahead with a new living arrangement. If she felt Nic was coming back she would not have wanted to leave their home.. the last semblance of something they constructed and did for themselves and the children..there would be too many memories to walk away from..unless you had been betrayed and the home and memories were a sham.

Nic has moved on, Christine is trying to move on..I think I will too, as far as this case is concerned.

[Crazy Canuck]

Oh boy! If she is really saying that publicly it sure changes things.

It pretty much rules out the foul play unless he met with foul play while visiting his other life/wife

I guess it would seem as though he took off but I still don't think so. Can't see him doing that to his babies but lots of men do -lots of men kill their own kids so who knows?

I still think they need to take a look at Christine as a suspect. If roles were reversed Nic would be the prime suspect. Have they looked in that house that she is so desparate to get rid of?! There could be evidence - she could have killed him in the house! Who knows? She could have hired a hitman with the missing paypal money. Seems farfetched but so do a lot of true stories we read about. The world is full of devious people do unbelievable things. I really hope this woman isn't getting away with murder.

[Angel4Alpha]

I dont think from anything ive seen - (i saw the interveiw on tv of her talking about this) that she did anything to him to hurt him physically.

What I do think personally is that she knew he was about to leave. That it was part of the reason they left their church beforehand imo. That is why the web accounts were combined beforehand imo. That is why his cell phone was dead all day because he didnt want calls about his decision to leave. I think the story about him being missing is to draw attention to her and the children and out him for what he did to her and them. That is why imo there was a slip about him in the past tense etc.. in the interview. Maybe it was thought that this would force him to come home or save face before the church group and family and friends.

Perhaps he is too embarassed by it all being so public and why he hasnt come forward.

Its either those things in my mind or he was carjacked. Everything i have read across the internet and the many threads here though points in my mind to him leaving and her knowing full well he intended to and reporting him missing was a desperation act hard to get out of once its been done.

But again thats my opinion and i most certainly could be wrong about it but its the feeling i get from it.

I do want to add though that my heart goes out to her and those children even if thats the case.

[Roxanne]

Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck

I still think they need to take a look at Christine as a suspect. If roles were reversed Nic would be the prime suspect. Have they looked in that house that she is so desparate to get rid of?! There could be evidence - she could have killed him in the house! Who knows? She could have hired a hitman with the missing paypal money. Seems farfetched but so do a lot of true stories we read about. The world is full of devious people do unbelievable things. I really hope this woman isn't getting away with murder.

HA...I don't think she killed him but there is definitely a double-standard when the husband is missing. IMO, Christine got off pretty easy on these message boards...the husbands are tried and convicted in the first week.

[txsvicki]

This must be why that long verse from Proverbs was posted by Christine. There's so many missing women whose husbands are never charged with anything and claim that she "ran off" as she was trying to get a divorce. It could happen to a man when he tries to leave the wife. The only reason for Nicholas to just leave with nothing is to avoid child support, but what about his education, his degree, work history, family, children, and identity? I hope he turns up somewhere or someone in his secret life steps forward to verify something. If this case were more in the media, someone would know something and start talking. If there's no one coming forward, then it's probably not true.

[curiousmom1177]

Originally Posted by Chicogirl36

CT- GREAT POSTS AND INFO!!
The list goes on- What is REALLY goin on? I have never heard of someone with so many inconsistant due dtes- especially when its your third- Usually you are a lil more in tune with how your body, baby, and hormones flow- JMHO

When hearing about her saying she felt the baby move, I have had a suspicion that this pregnancy isn't real...and I'm still holding my breath waiting for her to announce that she's had a miscarriage. Time will tell on that.

One thing I haven't seen anyone talk about was that she said the last day she saw Nick, he made her coffee and brought it to her in bed. As a pregnant woman, you generally give up coffee...(and I know it's 'okay' to drink caffeine - I sure did during my pregnancy, but I wouldn't go around PUBLICLY telling people that I was drinking coffee...)


I'm still putting my money on he's gay and the church is a big factor in his disappearance, and that Christine knows something big.

I bet the reporter would like to know what LE told RK.

[RKnowley]

My guess would be that she had c-sections with her other children and knows she will need to have one at the time this baby is due.

Originally Posted by curiousmom1177

Now, okay he mis-heard her on the due date, but as early in the pregnancy as she is, why would she ALREADY have scheduled a c-section??

[curiousmom1177]

Originally Posted by RKnowley

My guess would be that she had c-sections with her other children and knows she will need to have one at the time this baby is due.

No, I understand that. But I think if she told him the specific date of October 5th...Why, in March, would she already have the day scheduled for her c-section. That would usually be scheduled...oh, in SEPTEMBER, if she's due in October.

[misspennie]

Originally Posted by curiousmom1177

When hearing about her saying she felt the baby move, I have had a suspicion that this pregnancy isn't real...and I'm still holding my breath waiting for her to announce that she's had a miscarriage. Time will tell on that.

One thing I haven't seen anyone talk about was that she said the last day she saw Nick, he made her coffee and brought it to her in bed. As a pregnant woman, you generally give up coffee...(and I know it's 'okay' to drink caffeine - I sure did during my pregnancy, but I wouldn't go around PUBLICLY telling people that I was drinking coffee...)

I also contacted the reporter who had mis-stated her due date as August - he had been mistaken because it was loud there with the kids running around - and, as he said, He then confirmed with her, and got back to me that it's October 5th.

Now, okay he mis-heard her on the due date, but as early in the pregnancy as she is, why would she ALREADY have scheduled a c-section??

I'm still putting my money on he's gay and the church is a big factor in his disappearance, and that Christine knows something big.

I bet the reporter would like to know what LE told RK.

Hello! I'm new to this board and am intrigued by all your ideas. So here are my thoughts on your post:
I don't believe CF said he brought her coffee in "bed" just that he brought coffee into her. Also my own daughter is due to have her fourth child in July. She always has a lot of complications at the end and has had the previous 3 by C-section so knows this one will be too and can pretty well guess when it will be done by when the due date is. And don't forget there is decaffeinated coffee!!

[dangermouse]

Rknowley, I freakin love you!!!!!

Holy schnit!!!!!

I cannot believe that letter from Urquhart. When has Christine said anything publically about Nicholas having a "secret life"? Not in print, right? We have been following this one so closely, I think we would have noticed.

Still, if Urquhart is saying it, she has said it to him. Or else he is seriously misinterpreting something she said in an interview, methinks, because I certainly don't think she has said that at all.

WOW. WOWeeewooeewowsers.

OK. Now you've seen me get excited. It doesn't happen often.

[DeltaDawn]

I'm with you Dangermouse! Saying anything to LE is like saying it in public..right..how could you get more public then that!

Once you admit knowing, or finding out something about another person, telling LE is considered part of the public record.

So I am back to my idea of how easy it would be to disappear from Nic's stand point posted on previous threads. Too easy the way I layed it out to not be used if one was in a circumstance they could no longer deal with or live with. Money slowly taken from accounts, put into an account set up by another person. Cell phone, internet accounts already in another person's name. Even a car shared by both, in another person's name.
I think Canada is where he is, with a S/O and this has been planned over a few months time.

If he needed to do this for his peace of mind,then Christine and he never had a chance anylonger. Once one partner says they are through ..well they are through.

I hope all parties in this situation come to terms with it and then have peace and can move forward with their lives.

If Christine does know this for a fact, she needs to let the public know ..so she can get on with her life. Perhaps his family has heard from him and let Christine know..she needs to accept this now and stop the pleas and requests that are public. Privately she can approach friends and the church for what she needs. But the blog and website requests need to stop..that is not fair to the public.

[MysteryAddict]

When do you suppose this guy found time for a "secret life"?

[dangermouse]

This is such great news if it's true. It means he's alive!!!!
I really hope it's true.

Originally Posted by DeltaDawn

I'm with you Dangermouse! Saying anything to LE is like saying it in public..right..how could you get more public then that!

Once you admit knowing, or finding out something about another person, telling LE is considered part of the public record.

[meme]

After reading the reply from the police, that may explain why his employer removed the missing posters. Maybe Nic is still working for the company but with remote access. I'm sure co-workers would be told not to discuss the situation.

I would assume at some point the secret life will hit the media.

[dangermouse]

And shortly after that, he will get his own reality TV show...

Originally Posted by meme

I would assume at some point the secret life will hit the media.

[Roxanne]

Originally Posted by MysteryAddict

When do you suppose this guy found time for a "secret life"?

maybe it was an online secret life?

[RKnowley]

As far as I know Christine has not said anything about Nic having a "secret life" via the internet or in interview.

Urquhart may have heard something from Christine directly or friend's/family of hers or he may have misunderstood what she said at some point or for all I know he may be messing with us or is trying to send a message to someone.

All I know is what he said in email.

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Originally Posted by dangermouse

Rknowley, I freakin love you!!!!!

Holy schnit!!!!!

I cannot believe that letter from Urquhart. When has Christine said anything publically about Nicholas having a "secret life"? Not in print, right? We have been following this one so closely, I think we would have noticed.

Still, if Urquhart is saying it, she has said it to him. Or else he is seriously misinterpreting something she said in an interview, methinks, because I certainly don't think she has said that at all.

WOW. WOWeeewooeewowsers.

OK. Now you've seen me get excited. It doesn't happen often.

[SeriouslySearching]

MysteryAddict~ When a person wants to make the time...there are certainly ways. Emails, phone calls, lunch dates, trips to the store, client meetings, etc. Easily done and people do it more than you know.