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Old 06-08-2008, 02:21 PM
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Blind faith is exactly what the locals seem to have. They have a firm belief that their LE is top notch and should never be questioned. I find it actually troubling that no one is willing to hold them accountable for anything that happens in their town. As far as I know there is one main newspaper and they never seem to go against the grain either.
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:08 PM
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The cold hard truth, sadly. It is each person for themselves anymore. The warm fuzzies of the 60's are now looked at as being "liberal", which the right has successfully turned into a negative term. I'm all for personal responsibility but some need to realize that doesn't exclude compassion and caring for someone besides yourself.

Back on topic, is there only one newspaper in Reno? What about the TV news media? How come the public doesn't complain about the lack of information? I saw on the other site that Nevada leads the nation in the murder of women. Maybe people ought to start paying more attention and realize they have a right to know instead of having blind faith in the system.
It's ironic that the same people who claim to be "Christians" frequently behave in ways that are most un-Christlike. To me, it isn't about "right and left". It's about "right and wrong." If you see someone who needs help, you call for help and try to assist them.

It has been over a week since this Alvin Go-Tan guy was arrested. Nothing from RPD. Nothing from the news media.
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:11 PM
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Blind faith is exactly what the locals seem to have. They have a firm belief that their LE is top notch and should never be questioned. I find it actually troubling that no one is willing to hold them accountable for anything that happens in their town. As far as I know there is one main newspaper and they never seem to go against the grain either.
I find it troubling that there was this massive DNA backlog and it took something horrible like this to get Nevada to wake up and do something about it. There is simply no excuse IMHO for this. None. Compound that with the constant changing of stories regarding evidence and then the lack of communication with the people of Nevada. You've got people scared in Reno and they have a right to know.
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:14 PM
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People did call 911, but did not go out into the street as probably you or I would have done. Sadly, we live in a society where people say it isn't their problem or they don't want to be involved legally for the long haul.
Incidentally, has there been an arrest made in this case? Connecticut police should be able to blow up the image of the vehicle in that video to get a license plate number. There was a holdup in my area not too long ago where the man was caught on a surveillance camera but was unable to be identified. Crime specialists were able to blow up the image and find his identity. He was later arrested and charged.
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:34 AM
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I find it troubling that there was this massive DNA backlog and it took something horrible like this to get Nevada to wake up and do something about it. There is simply no excuse IMHO for this. None. Compound that with the constant changing of stories regarding evidence and then the lack of communication with the people of Nevada. You've got people scared in Reno and they have a right to know.
While troubling, it is going on all across the nation. With forensic evidence at an all time high, the ability to hire enough to process it is stuck in a time warp. I can't exactly blame the labs for the inability to keep up, but I blame the lawmakers for not giving money to boost the hiring of more people to alleviate the problem.
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:36 AM
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Incidentally, has there been an arrest made in this case? Connecticut police should be able to blow up the image of the vehicle in that video to get a license plate number. There was a holdup in my area not too long ago where the man was caught on a surveillance camera but was unable to be identified. Crime specialists were able to blow up the image and find his identity. He was later arrested and charged.
O/T not yet...at least to my knowledge.

It would be great if there was a camera that picked up the truck this perp in Bri's case could have been driving and caught a license plate number. They need a break just like that here.
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:05 PM
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Blind faith is exactly what the locals seem to have. They have a firm belief that their LE is top notch and should never be questioned. I find it actually troubling that no one is willing to hold them accountable for anything that happens in their town. As far as I know there is one main newspaper and they never seem to go against the grain either.
Blind being the operative word.

Nevada leads in gun deaths, ownership


Nevada Ranks #1 in Rate of Women Murdered by Men


Crime rate per 100,000 people (2006) violent crimes-
Murder-
Reno=
10.9 Nat'l avg.=7

Rape-
Reno=47.5 Nat'l avg.=33.1

Overall Crime Index
Reno=5835.4 Nat'l avg.=4479.3

Reno is above the national average in every single category, significantly above in most. I really don't know how LE has such a good rep with the locals.
Reno NV Crime Statistics (2006 Crime Data)

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Old 06-09-2008, 02:34 PM
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Now those are stats that I never want to see where I live! Ack!

I was happy to find our murder rate was cut in half from this time last year.
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Blind being the operative word.

Nevada leads in gun deaths, ownership


Nevada Ranks #1 in Rate of Women Murdered by Men


Crime rate per 100,000 people (2006) violent crimes-
Murder-
Reno=
10.9 Nat'l avg.=7

Rape-
Reno=47.5 Nat'l avg.=33.1

Overall Crime Index
Reno=5835.4 Nat'l avg.=4479.3

Reno is above the national average in every single category, significantly above in most. I really don't know how LE has such a good rep with the locals.
Reno NV Crime Statistics (2006 Crime Data)

Call me crazy, but is it possible that there is a correlation between the legalization of prostitutes, the unrestricted availability of alcohol and the crime rates in Nevada? One wonders if this type of behavior would be occuring at such a high frequency if prostitution and the availabity of alcohol were restricted. Las Vegas is known as "Sin City" but some of the sins being committed are unforgivable.
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:18 PM
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Call me crazy, but is it possible that there is a correlation between the legalization of prostitutes, the unrestricted availability of alcohol and the crime rates in Nevada? One wonders if this type of behavior would be occuring at such a high frequency if prostitution and the availabity of alcohol were restricted. Las Vegas is known as "Sin City" but some of the sins being committed are unforgivable.
I think it would be hard to argue that prostitution doesn't change the way women are viewed by some men. When women can be bought like a Hershey bar I don't think it is hard to objectify them. To be very honest I could never understand how someone could pay for sex and not think less of themselves, it is laughable IMO. At least the women are getting paid.

I don't want to generalize too much because I know lots of good people who have gone to Vegas. I understand that most people go there for fun- the glitter and face pace, not to cause trouble for anyone. However, the partying reputation, legal hookers and gambling are going to attract a lot people who are high risk to commit crime. JMO
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:51 AM
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They have to take the good with the bad. I have a different outlook on the legalization of prostitution as I feel it is not only a good thing, but neccessary. Prostitution is going to exist in every city across the country legal or not. The element associated with the "business" aspect is the problem not the women. It is the pimps, drug dealers, and scumbags who we need to remove from the equation.

Does this have an affect on Nevada's stats? I don't think the answer is that simple.
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:38 PM
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I have a slightly different look on the legalized prostitution --- how do you not look down on the men who have to pay to get someone to have sex with them?
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:39 PM
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I don't agree with prostitution. I guess it goes against my own personal morals and values. However, I must say that I don't necessarily think the men paying for sex are paying for the pure fact that it's the only way to get someone to sleep with them. Infact, I think that's rarely the case. Men sleeping with prostitutes keeps it more annonymous, so to speak. It's an easy way for them to have their sexual needs and desires met without people knowing, for example their spouses, parents, children. ect...
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They have to take the good with the bad. I have a different outlook on the legalization of prostitution as I feel it is not only a good thing, but neccessary. Prostitution is going to exist in every city across the country legal or not. The element associated with the "business" aspect is the problem not the women. It is the pimps, drug dealers, and scumbags who we need to remove from the equation.

Does this have an affect on Nevada's stats? I don't think the answer is that simple.
There are a lot of things that are going to exist in every city whether or not they are legal but that doesn't make them necessary. Call me a prude but paying someone to have sex with you makes you a moron IMO.
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:06 PM
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Let's take this back to Bri now. We could go on and on about this subject. LOL

Maybe we should start writing and calling the newspaper to find out why they aren't putting some pressure on LE there?
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Call me a prude but paying someone to have sex with you makes you a moron IMO.
Hello Softsoul! I sort of agree, but have to add in the fact that it could be a lonely soul, or a kinky soul.....neither of which are necessarily a moron. I just want to see someone arrested for the murder of Bri!!!
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...I just want to see someone arrested for the murder of Bri!!!
I'd like to see him arrested, convicted & executed ASAP, personally.
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So many prostitutes are beaten up, subjected to weird stuff, missing and even murdered. I wonder just how many men who use them are sexually or socially normal.
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:11 AM
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I don't think this guy has anything to do with prostitutes. I have this hunch that he frequents the topless clubs just south of 80 on Victoria (which might be where he got his thong underwear), then he leaves and heads north toward campus. The Bri attack was not, in my opinion, premeditated, like a delivery guy or plumber or anything like that. It seems to be more like a crime of opportunity, given that his two prior attacks were of the "anger-retaliatory" type of rape. Or at least it seems so to me.

They need to look at guys with a juvenile record of physical assault on women who are working as day laborers in the campus area. Again, IMHO.

After all, who pulls a woman off the street, like his November rape, then beats and rapes her, but brings condoms with him? Who goes back to the apartment of a woman he's already raped to break in again? It's the anger-retaliatory rapist at his prime, looking to inflict fear and pain through rape. Murder is simply a byproduct.
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trost arrest update

Trost has been brought back to jail in Las Vegas from CA.
He was in court on Tuesday where he faces many charges.
Links below show updated photos as well, and one video of this guy.
Still not sure if this guy has been looked at enough.

I do not think there is a connection now to the former roommate and the Go-Tan.

In regards to Roy Trost. Further details in regards to the (2) sexual assaults in the hospital parking lot.
- he robbed and assualted both victims in one of their cars.
- he is also facing charges for sexually assaulting a former girlfriends
daughter
- he is facing at least two burglary charges - one being at a ranch stealing saddles. Sagebrush Ranch. There is a brothel located within 45 minutes of Reno called Sagebrush Ranch. *** I am not 100% sure this is the sagebrush ranch that trost stole saddles from.
- The newsreport of the Sagebrush Ranch burglary - the owner said Trost was loading saddles in his "truck". No details on what kind of truck.
- one of the articles below stated Trost worked at the hospital "Desert Springs", not sure if there is a tie to a hospital in Reno.

http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8454235

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/st...&nav=menu102_2

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=8457950
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Trost has been brought back to jail in Las Vegas from CA.
He was in court on Tuesday where he faces many charges.
Links below show updated photos as well, and one video of this guy.
Still not sure if this guy has been looked at enough.

I do not think there is a connection now to the former roommate and the Go-Tan.

In regards to Roy Trost. Further details in regards to the (2) sexual assaults in the hospital parking lot.
- he robbed and assualted both victims in one of their cars.
- he is also facing charges for sexually assaulting a former girlfriends
daughter
- he is facing at least two burglary charges - one being at a ranch stealing saddles. Sagebrush Ranch. There is a brothel located within 45 minutes of Reno called Sagebrush Ranch. *** I am not 100% sure this is the sagebrush ranch that trost stole saddles from.
- The newsreport of the Sagebrush Ranch burglary - the owner said Trost was loading saddles in his "truck". No details on what kind of truck.
- one of the articles below stated Trost worked at the hospital "Desert Springs", not sure if there is a tie to a hospital in Reno.

http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8454235

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/st...&nav=menu102_2

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=8457950
Seems like this guy could be good for it, but you would think they would have run his DNA by now, right?
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Old 06-11-2008, 05:38 PM
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I believe they have his DNA.
They may be collecting additional evidence in the Las Vegas parking lot cases. I believe they must make a case for these crimes first.

Then they would/could release info if a match with Reno cases.

There seems to be a lot more to the Trost case that has not been released. I have a feeling there is more to come.

The fact that he was facing charges to burglaries and sexually assaulting his girlfriend's daughter.
Sounds like he should have been arrested some time ago.

The ranch owner knew it was Trost who stole the saddles. Why wasnt he arrested - maybe they could not locate him all of this time.
They were very quick to put out his name and pics when the assaults occurred.

Link to Trost Custody status - current court record at Detention Center.
http://redrock.co.clark.nv.us/ccdcin...Reference.aspx
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Did not paste the link right in my last post.
Go to the link below - search on Trost, Roy

Current charges
Roy Trost Link - Detention Center.
http://redrock.co.clark.nv.us/ccdcin...odySearch.aspx
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Did not paste the link right in my last post.
Go to the link below - search on Trost, Roy

Current charges
Roy Trost Link - Detention Center.
http://redrock.co.clark.nv.us/ccdcin...odySearch.aspx
When they released his photo, I thought, 'Wow, this could be Bri's perp.'" I know some other elements--like his age--don't add up, but I think it's good to explore the possibility.
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:44 AM
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Wow! That is some rap sheet! (I didn't see a photo with it tho)
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