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Old 05-21-2008, 05:18 PM
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Let's find this SOB--Who Makes the Underwear?

New poster to WS here. Forgive me if it takes me a while to catch on. But I have three little girls and I am just about ready to go find Bri's killer myself if I have to quit my job and move.

Sleuths, anyone have any contacts at Reno PD? Who manufactures the black Pink Panther thong underwear? I wonder how we could find out. I bet there can't have been too many pairs of the small sized sold in the U.S. If we get a list from the manufacturer (then the retailers), there's a chance we could track them down.

I don't want this case to go stone cold right now.
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:59 PM
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P.S. I did read somewhere that Kohl's sold this underwear (or underwear like it), but I have not been able to confirm that fact.
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Old 05-21-2008, 06:09 PM
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Welcome to WS, Mavryk! (Love the nickname!)

I don't know how finding the company will help a great deal since the underwear was probably mass-marketed. I guess to me it would be a needle in a haystack.

Some people collect say "Betty Boop" articles. People often give them to the collector as gifts etc. Not saying that a thong would be an appropriate gift, but that it would be definitely difficult, if not impossible, to track the owner of the PP thong.

This is going to take someone intimately involved with the owner or the owner to come forward to claim them. (It could also be a mother who does the laundry or a roomate, too.)
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Old 05-21-2008, 06:22 PM
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Thanks, SS. Have enjoyed reading your posts for some time.

Certainly the underwear may have been mass-marketed. But in finding the manufacturer, you can identify retailers in the area who sold the garment in that size. I simply cannot imagine more than 100 or so small sizes of that particular garment being sold in stores in the Reno area. If it's Kohl's, for instance, the investigator could check credit card purchases of the garment and literally go down the list, crossing off one at a time to the extent the purchaser can be interviewed.

I understand and agree there could have been cash purchases, the garments could have been given as gifts, people could have lost track of them . . . or any number of dead ends. But we could also get a hit on something and find that needle in the haystack. At this point, what else is there?

I've e-mailed the Reno PD to see if we can get the info on the manufacturer from the tags. I also e-mailed Kohl's a picture from the RPJ site to see if they will confirm one way or the other whether they sold the garment. We'll see what happens.
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Old 05-21-2008, 06:26 PM
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Ah, OK! Well...I do see where you are going with this and maybe it could narrow down the field a bit to the owner. Good job. I will be interested to know if either respond. Please keep us posted.

LE does need to find out if the owner is still alive and well...also to know if they had been a victim of a similar rape as the other two. I wonder if they didn't think to track these already?
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:42 PM
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I'm still surprised no one came forward after the photos of the underwear were posted in the local media, unless this person is 1) dead 2) related to the perp and protecting him or 3) living in a cave! Being that the known victims are all small in stature and the underwear is size small, it's very possible there's another victim out there we don't know of, imo.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:09 AM
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I'm still surprised no one came forward after the photos of the underwear were posted in the local media, unless this person is 1) dead 2) related to the perp and protecting him or 3) living in a cave! Being that the known victims are all small in stature and the underwear is size small, it's very possible there's another victim out there we don't know of, imo.
Another possibility is that she no longer or never did live in the Reno area. I live in the east and I can assure you that the vast majority of people here either have never heard of this case or haven't followed the details. I once brought it up at lunch with a large group of people and NO ONE knew about it. To be honest with you I have never talked to anyone who knows about this case. However, Iím sure there are people who follow national news and have heard about Briís murder, but I doubt there are many who have followed it closely enough to know about the thong. The owner may have been a tourist or someone visiting friends or relatives.



Yet another possibility is that the owner of the thongs has come forward but police arenít releasing that information. They havenít shared much about this case so it wouldnít be surprising if they kept that fact to themselves. Iím becoming more and more doubtful that LE has any clue who this POS is, where he is or if/when he may strike again.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:51 AM
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I've been worried that the thong belongs to a younger person because of the cartoon pattern. These days, girls as young as 11 or 12 wear thongs. That could be the reason for the small size as well.

I think it's possible the person never realized they were missing. Many women have a lot of undergarments, enough that a pair missing might not raise a flag. It's not necessarily like missing a blouse, which you would probably notice. If the person did notice, they maybe figured they had fallen out of the laundry basket somewhere, or got left behind at the laundry mat. Regardless, I don't think the owner is coming forward at this point.
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Old 05-23-2008, 12:15 AM
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Welcome Mavryck. I'm fairly new to the board too. As Softsoul mentioned, not everyone is aware of this case. I'm from Canada and had never heard of this case until I watched Dateline one night.

I think everyone wants this piece of scum caught a.s.a.p. I feel LE needs to bring the story back into the limelight. They need to profile the suspect again. Things to watch out for in that person. Even if they don't have any new info to add they need to remind people he's still out there. I truly believe that someone knows this person and hasn't come forward yet. All it takes is one observant person to make a small connection and call it in.

By bringing the story to the forefront again, people will be on guard and on the lookout for something that doesn't seem normal or right.

I'm also sure he is scouring boards like this one.
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Old 05-28-2008, 03:48 PM
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New information on Pink Panther thong

I tracked the manufacturer of the underwear and obtained the transaction history for that thong garment. It turns out that the distributor sold six pairs in that size in the entire state of Nevada, all in 2007. I got my hands on the dates and locations of the sales and passed it on to LE. I only hope they can do something with it. Keep your fingers crossed.
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Old 05-28-2008, 04:30 PM
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Congrats! That's really good news and I'm happy to hear that. It may be nothing, but it also may be bingo!
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:28 PM
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I tracked the manufacturer of the underwear and obtained the transaction history for that thong garment. It turns out that the distributor sold six pairs in that size in the entire state of Nevada, all in 2007. I got my hands on the dates and locations of the sales and passed it on to LE. I only hope they can do something with it. Keep your fingers crossed.
OMG! Only six pairs in the whole state??? This is great news and thanks for giving LE this information.
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Old 05-28-2008, 10:17 PM
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I tracked the manufacturer of the underwear and obtained the transaction history for that thong garment. It turns out that the distributor sold six pairs in that size in the entire state of Nevada, all in 2007. I got my hands on the dates and locations of the sales and passed it on to LE. I only hope they can do something with it. Keep your fingers crossed.
Wow................this is incredible news! I hope LE tracks down each of those 6 people who bought the underwear.
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:13 PM
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Wow good job Mavryk! keep us updated
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:15 PM
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so, Mavryk -- please tell us who the manufacturer is
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Old 05-30-2008, 02:15 PM
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theres a khols that is 3 miles from the house she was taken from.. and another khols I believe six miles from where the body was found. Could that play into the area where the owner of the undies could be?
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Old 05-30-2008, 02:26 PM
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theres a khols that is 3 miles from the house she was taken from.. and another khols I believe six miles from where the body was found. Could that play into the area where the owner of the undies could be?
The one near where she was found is a lot closer than 6 miles - closer to 2 miles (and I'd take 365 between the two exits, not the way they show)
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Wow, great work MavryK!
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Old 05-31-2008, 01:49 PM
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The one near where she was found is a lot closer than 6 miles - closer to 2 miles (and I'd take 365 between the two exits, not the way they show)
Well does Double R road (the one she was found on) lead straight to a kohls?
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Old 05-31-2008, 01:56 PM
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Well does Double R road (the one she was found on) lead straight to a kohls?
Not really. Double R does end at Damonte Ranch Parkway at its South end, if you go right there the Kohl's will be on the left after you go under the freeway. At the North end Double R becomes Airway Drive after you cross Longley Lane.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:52 AM
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Not Kohl's. It's Burlington Coat Factory. They have one in Reno on S. Victoria where two pair were sold, and two more in Vegas where two were sold at each location, for a total of six.

Unfortunately, there was only one credit card purchase. There were three cash purchases and two debit purchases. I'm trying to find the names of the debit purchases (which is more difficult than the ccard purchase, it turns out). We'll need RPD authority to get any more information due to privacy laws. Working on it. Hang tight and I'll keep you all updated.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:41 PM
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Thanks for doing this MavryK. I don't post on this thread much but I always check it hoping for an arrest.
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Not Kohl's. It's Burlington Coat Factory. They have one in Reno on S. Victoria where two pair were sold, and two more in Vegas where two were sold at each location, for a total of six.

Unfortunately, there was only one credit card purchase. There were three cash purchases and two debit purchases. I'm trying to find the names of the debit purchases (which is more difficult than the ccard purchase, it turns out). We'll need RPD authority to get any more information due to privacy laws. Working on it. Hang tight and I'll keep you all updated.
So if 1 was a credit card, 2 were debit cards, and 3 cash, then there would be a 50/50 chance that LE could possibly get the name of the person that may have owned these panties. The credit card and debit card transactions should be relatively easy for LE to obtain the owner's name on the cards. Cash would be virtually impossible.

I don't know Burlington Coat Factory's security procedures, but they may even have surveillance tapes from the times of the purchases (for the cash purchases).

Who knows.... maybe the PERP could have bought the panties for someone in his life.....
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:28 PM
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So if 1 was a credit card, 2 were debit cards, and 3 cash, then there would be a 50/50 chance that LE could possibly get the name of the person that may have owned these panties. The credit card and debit card transactions should be relatively easy for LE to obtain the owner's name on the cards. Cash would be virtually impossible.

I don't know Burlington Coat Factory's security procedures, but they may even have surveillance tapes from the times of the purchases (for the cash purchases).

Who knows.... maybe the PERP could have bought the panties for someone in his life.....
My thoughts exactly. I provided the information to RPD detectives and they have not yet followed up. Even with the dates and times of the purchases, you could get the word out again and refresh the public's recollection about the underwear. i.e. Who bought the day after Christmas this underwear for a total of $48.16 at the Burlington Coat Factory on Victoria? Narrowing the purchases down to three people would help a great deal, it would seem. I'm sure LE is following up on something else right now and this is not a priority.

I checked with Burlington Coat Factory about the surveillance tapes, exactly as you were thinking. Unfortunately they run a DVR system, meaning they don't use tapes, they use digital video that has a 7-day recycle, so SOL on that front.

Personally, I think it's possible this guy visits topless clubs just south of the area of attack, maybe even right before he attacks. I was thinking the PERP maybe picked up the thong at one of the clubs (all three of which are just off Victoria south of campus), which would explain (1) why nobody from the public has claimed them yet, and (2) where he might be coming from that late at night in search of his next target.

Maybe LE should be post the thong pics in those establishments or just send a low-key investigator in to ask the dancers if they remember the thong. Who knows?
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