Brooke Bennett, 12 yrs. old Randolph, VT #6 - Page 12

angelwngs · #**276** 07-02-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Juvenile

The LE did a great job in securing and documenting the evidence needed to put these sick SOB's away for good so they will never take away others' freedom again. It appears this case may bring other potential predators down too.

Brooke must have stayed strong and fought back against these child molesters, and her parents should be proud that she didn't back down. May she rest in peace and Jim and Janet recover emotionally one day. God bless.

And didn't I hear that this Vermont's first ever Amber Alert? Vermont DID DO an excellent job. Thankfully.

pixies · #**277** 07-02-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by adnoid

I respectfully disagree. I've got a couple hundred rounds of appropriate rehab in my trunk as we speak, in 3 different calibers.

I love you Adnoid.

luthersmama · #**278** 07-02-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nanandjim

How do you know that he ratted out Jacques? It sounds like investigators pieced it together using information gathered from the computer and from cell phone records.

The affidavit includes info from Gagnon.

SeriouslySearching · #**279** 07-02-2008, 07:32 PM

For the life of me, I can't figure out why Brooke ever got back in the vehicle with that man and her cousin? You could see in the video she was upset and I still say angry. She was almost free. Bless her heart. Why didn't she just go to a phone and call her Dad or Janet? They would have dropped everything to come and get her.

luthersmama · #**280** 07-02-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by STO4

All through this missing person case, police were focusing on this being a myspace person contact to contact. I am thinking... could the person Brooke was talking to could have been her uncle in disguise??? .... to lure her into the "sex ring" ..... he needs to be locked away forever.

That appears to be the case.

pixies · #**281** 07-02-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

For the life of me, I can't figure out why Brooke ever got back in the vehicle with that man and her cousin? You could see in the video she was upset and I still say angry. She was almost free. Bless her heart. Why didn't she just go to a phone and call her Dad or Janet? They would have dropped everything to come and get her.

Because she was a 12 year old little girl being raised by a foolish, dare I say idiot mother and a couple of pedophiles.

She was never taught it was OK to not be a victim.

Ugh, I just want to cry.

SeriouslySearching · #**282** 07-02-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by angelwngs

And didn't I hear that this Vermont's first ever Amber Alert? Vermont DID DO an excellent job. Thankfully.

THAT needs to change!! Unless there has not been a child missing where there was clear danger until now, I feel they are using the guidelines too strictly. This is not the way the Amber Alert was meant to be used. They are only guidelines and it must be decided on a case by case basis.

That being said, yes...LE did an excellent job in this case.

luthersmama · #**283** 07-02-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by murdershewrote

I just keep having these terrible thoughts that maybe he took her to the sugar house where these "other men" might have been waiting...and that's where she was killed. There might have been other guys there waiting upstairs in his house as well...but as I recall there wasn't any indication from LE that they found evidence of murder in his house, just evidence as to where she was. I just can't help thinking that something really really scared her, for her to end up dead. I'm not trying to downplay that just having your uncle rape you isn't bad enough...but I still feel there is more to come out. If she was being indoctrinating into this sex ring...then I think there may have been others there and she wouldn't have had a chance to fight off a few guys...

I don't think there were "a few guys". I think the "ring" was Jacques, Gagnon and one other person, possibly "Tim" who Cassandra had been shacked up with. Or some other relative. I think she just fought back and he killed her out of rage and frustration.

The "all in the family" component is significant, IMHO. One reason the guys stuck together was to "protect" Denise and Cassandra. The third guy may be another brother-in-law, brother, ex-boyfriend, something like that. Somebody who wouldn't want his spouse to suffer if he got arrested.

Spazkat9696 · #**284** 07-02-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

For the life of me, I can't figure out why Brooke ever got back in the vehicle with that man and her cousin? You could see in the video she was upset and I still say angry. She was almost free. Bless her heart. Why didn't she just go to a phone and call her Dad or Janet? They would have dropped everything to come and get her.

One of the affidavits said AR told her they were taking her to a party and that's why she went with her.

dark_shadows · #**285** 07-02-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by angelwngs

And didn't I hear that this Vermont's first ever Amber Alert? Vermont DID DO an excellent job. Thankfully.

My very dearest Angelwngs,

I just went to the store by my house and bought a few things, two of the things being lottery tickets.
I posted on Brooke's thread last weekend about bying lottery tickets here with the Amber Alert on it.
The ones I just purchased no longer have the Amber Alert for Brooke.
There was nothing there that stated any new Amber Alert.
The tickets are updated in real time.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

fran · #**286** 07-02-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

For the life of me, I can't figure out why Brooke ever got back in the vehicle with that man and her cousin? You could see in the video she was upset and I still say angry. She was almost free. Bless her heart. Why didn't she just go to a phone and call her Dad or Janet? They would have dropped everything to come and get her.

AR told LE that the uncle had told Brooke they were going to 'party.' I think she was waiting around town for AR and the uncle to return.

I think I agree with you, in that something most likely happened the night before. At least, to my inexperienced eyes, Brooke looked a bit distressed at the convenience store, arms crossed protectively in front of her body. She was way too quick to take off the opposite direction once outside the door as well.

That's the part that has me stumped. Why did the uncle take her into the store and have them each walk out separate ways, not even turning to say good-bye? For the benefit of the camera? For an alibi?

Premeditation of what was to come?

Heck, even AR said he threw out his coffee.

JMHO
fran

SeriouslySearching · #**287** 07-02-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by luthersmama

The affidavit includes info from Gagnon.

Yes, Ray Gagnon is singing like a caged animal and willing to give up MJ...IMO because he did not actually kill her. I had a strong feeling when I read that last affidavit that it would be the case. Ray didn't want a Murder One charge. He is willing to take the child porn and other host of charges...but not that one.

Celt · #**288** 07-02-2008, 07:43 PM

Someone(can't find it right now) earlier had posted a video of the uncle in court..remember his eyes were wild and creepy?? I bet then he was already going for an "Insanity defense'

R.I.P Brooke

MCDRAW · #**289** 07-02-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fran

AR told LE that the uncle had told Brooke they were going to 'party.' I think she was waiting around town for AR and the uncle to return.

I think I agree with you, in that something most likely happened the night before. At least, to my inexperienced eyes, Brooke looked a bit distressed at the convenience store, arms crossed protectively in front of her body. She was way too quick to take off the opposite direction once outside the door as well.

That's the part that has me stumped. Why did the uncle take her into the store and have them each walk out separate ways, not even turning to say good-bye? For the benefit of the camera? For an alibi?

Premeditation of what was to come?

Heck, even AR said he threw out his coffee.

JMHO
fran

I don't know if he planned to kill her but he certainly planned to rape her. These people thought they could cover their tracks...they always think they are so smart. I hope someone can get to them, so they can know the fear that Brooke felt. I am praying for Brooke's family.

SeriouslySearching · #**290** 07-02-2008, 07:50 PM

An Insanity defense won't fly here. Premeditated murder with careful preparation, plotting, and years of sexual assaults will be enough to prevent it from being used. His prior conviction of sexual assault and kidnapping will come into play, too. That alone proves he wasn't insane then either.

MCDRAW · #**291** 07-02-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fran

AR told LE that the uncle had told Brooke they were going to 'party.' I think she was waiting around town for AR and the uncle to return.

I think I agree with you, in that something most likely happened the night before. At least, to my inexperienced eyes, Brooke looked a bit distressed at the convenience store, arms crossed protectively in front of her body. She was way too quick to take off the opposite direction once outside the door as well.

That's the part that has me stumped. Why did the uncle take her into the store and have them each walk out separate ways, not even turning to say good-bye? For the benefit of the camera? For an alibi?

Premeditation of what was to come?

Heck, even AR said he threw out his coffee.

JMHO
fran

He certainly created an elaborate scheme which does point to premeditation.

SeriouslySearching · #**292** 07-02-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MCDRAW

I don't know if he planned to kill her but he certainly planned to rape her. These people thought they could cover their tracks...they always think they are so smart. I hope someone can get to them, so they can know the fear that Brooke felt. I am praying for Brooke's family.

I don't have any doubt that he planned to kill her. He was setting it up so that people would think she was "vanished" by an internet predator. This shows intent of murder, imo. He knew when he dropped her off that she was not coming back.

Celt · #**293** 07-02-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

An Insanity defense won't fly here. Premeditated murder with careful preparation, plotting, and years of sexual assaults will be enough to prevent it from being used. His prior conviction of sexual assault and kidnapping will come into play, too. That alone proves he wasn't insane then either.

I agree! but I think he was trying to look crazy lol idiot

SeriouslySearching · #**294** 07-02-2008, 07:55 PM

He didn't have to try to look crazy. The man is an evil and wicked wacko. Still, he knew exactly what he was doing each and every second. He just didn't care.

angelwngs · #**295** 07-02-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dark_shadows

My very dearest Angelwngs,

I just went to the store by my house and bought a few things, two of the things being lottery tickets.
I posted on Brooke's thread last weekend about bying lottery tickets here with the Amber Alert on it.
The ones I just purchased no longer have the Amber Alert for Brooke.
There was nothing there that stated any new Amber Alert.
The tickets are updated in real time.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

Ohhhh, Dear DS... if only it had been removed from the lottery tickets because they had found her alive and able to begin recovery from this horrific trauma.

So very, very sad.

Juvenile · #**296** 07-02-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

THAT needs to change!! Unless there has not been a child missing where there was clear danger until now, I feel they are using the guidelines too strictly. This is not the way the Amber Alert was meant to be used. They are only guidelines and it must be decided on a case by case basis.

That being said, yes...LE did an excellent job in this case.

SS, first let me say that I agree and identify with your posts more than anyone else on this forum and thank you for your focus and thoughtful posts. I'm not aware of how many abductions have happened in Vermont and therefore have not investigated where the Amber Alert should have been used. There has to be a balance and discretion when it is used. Down here in Texas where the Amber Alert was first initiated, it seems to be used way too often. And maybe the alerts are justified, but the are starting to be on the level of car alarms where nobody pays attention anymore. That said, I always pay attention and am a supporter of the Amber Alert.

And for the record to all, my forum name is a play on words of my given name and has been my nickname since I could understand words, although maybe not the best choice for this forum

philamena · #**297** 07-02-2008, 07:57 PM

Any pics of the posstepdad released yet?

HesterMofet · #**298** 07-02-2008, 08:01 PM

I have been following this case since the beginning and while I have not posted my opinion I wanted to thank everyone here for being such a great resource for information and support.

When Brooke was reported missing, I really had hope she was alive. I rarely have that with missing children, but I was hopeful she had gone off to meet someone or run away to be with friends who were hiding her. Even when the abuse of her cousin surfaced, I thought maybe she ran to get away from it.

But it was not to be. As I write this, I am crying for Brooke and her cousin. I cannot imagine the terrors they suffered and what the cousin will continue to suffer. I am sure I am not the only one here who thinks that AR is a very brave young woman for coming forward. She must've been terrified that the men from "Breckenridge" would come and take her away, too. I hope she gets the help she needs to get through this and be able to go on with her life. She is a heroine for overcoming her own fear and telling the truth.

Again, thank you all for all the information. Now Brooke can come home.

May justice prevail and anyone involved in this never see the light of day again.

galvino · #**299** 07-02-2008, 08:01 PM

I'm not so sure that he planned to murder her- I think he probably planned to keep her as a sex slave in the sugar shack or somewhere else for a while and that the time he would hold her he could scare her enough about "Breckenridge" that when he allowed her to go home (maybe in time to go to school) he would be assured that she wouldn't tell (like A. R.). I think she fought and he killed her then. He got Gagnon to help cover up because he was involved in the pedo-ring.

JMO, of course

SeriouslySearching · #**300** 07-02-2008, 08:03 PM

Thanks, Juvenile. Very nice of you to say.

I know that sometimes it seems the Amber Alert can be overused, but I do not think it can. If one person pays attention to it and brings a child home alive then it served the purpose. I know it has been used here in OK many times and I applaud them for it. I don't know what our record is...but I do know it is an effective tool for LE in the recovery of missing children. I hope that Vermont and other states will rethink their procedures when it comes time to alert the public and take advantage of the Amber Alert system if a child is suspected of being abducted with or without vehicle descriptions etc. It truly is a lifesaver.

Glad to know about your screenname!

It is fine. (You may want to add something in your signature that you are actually older tho. lol)