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07-15-2008, 11:11 PM
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The Cooper's home is less than a mile from our house. We had to come home that way from dinner tonight. The main road through the neighborhood goes behind their house. From the back we could see police tape across the fence in the back yard and a police officer was parked on the side of the road behind the house.
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07-15-2008, 11:12 PM
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My bold above
Fran, don't these idiots ever read the end of the book? Chapter 10: Charged
Chapter 11: Convicted
Chapter 12: Death Penalty (heh, hopefully)
Chapter 13: NOT WORTH IT - GET A DIVORCE
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LOL, you're right Taximom, they think they don't need to finish the book because they believe they are smarter than all the ones before them.
In fact, they should just read chapter 13, "NOT WORTH IT - GET A DIVORCE"
Maybe some day enough of them will be behind bars, they'll finally start getting it. I doubt it though
JMHO
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07-15-2008, 11:12 PM
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Who was with the kids when they were at the party? They might also have some input as to the mood of the Coopers before/after. Did Nancy Cooper come home w/Brad? Was Brad agitated? Etc. etc. etc.
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07-15-2008, 11:12 PM
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This kind of pic shakes you to the core. It isn't enough that someone was murdered it reflects solely on our choices. Are we not paying attention enough or is there a basic cruelty we don't get? How can we be so blinded? Do we trust so much that if they aren't meth heads that we must be OK?
I think I am very shaken by this crime as it reflects what we all want to be about. Loving families and pursuing the dream.For Nancy and so many others life is just not that predictable.
We can't paint this picture with one brush. I am beginning to believe that it is more complicated than we will ever know. Not just that husbands lose it but that there is underlying causes that we don't see in society. I have to think it is a personality disorder that doesn't manifest itself until it is too late for some.
To me this is very fearful. Trust goes out the window.
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07-15-2008, 11:15 PM
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thanks!
was this the scene after her body had been removed, or do you know?....now i'm not so sure that she wasn't actually in the water....what would the white piece of material be?...something to bring her body upon??..like instead of moving up the ditch on the dirt???..
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07-15-2008, 11:17 PM
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I just read that it is a "storm-water pond" which means that water could have been much higher after the rains that weekend. So she might have been in the water initially but then left on the embankment as the water receded.
Oh, so sad.
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I'm still trying to get more of a feel for where she was found, and why if she was exposed wasn't she found earlier? I realize this is a new residential development and maybe no one around?
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07-15-2008, 11:17 PM
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Who was with the kids when they were at the party? They might also have some input as to the mood of the Coopers before/after. Did Nancy Cooper come home w/Brad? Was Brad agitated? Etc. etc. etc.
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ok, this is my understanding.....i read/heard that Brad didn't go to the party
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07-15-2008, 11:17 PM
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the way i've heard it, it was like in a ditch?...so i'm thinking her body was found on an embankment.....i could be wrong though; it's just how i understand it...
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I was reviewing the aerial footage, and I can't tell if she had been removed by then, or if the sheet is covering her?
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07-15-2008, 11:18 PM
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ok, this is my understanding.....i read/heard that Brad didn't go to the party 
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that's correct
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07-15-2008, 11:19 PM
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I didn't see NG. Honestly, my new digital cable is having issues with some stations, including hers. I get this "one moment please" message.  I'll look up her transcript later!
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hey, when we first got digital cable, we'd get the same message, from time to time...call the cable company....i don't know what they did, but it worked
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07-15-2008, 11:21 PM
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hey, when we first got digital cable, we'd get the same message, from time to time...call the cable company....i don't know what they did, but it worked 
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Thank you  I have called them and it still does it. Also some local stations. I guess I'll have to do it again!!
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07-15-2008, 11:21 PM
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And :Welcome-12-june: to each
Awesome to have your all here!:Banane19:
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07-15-2008, 11:21 PM
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ok, this is my understanding.....i read/heard that Brad didn't go to the party 
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Oh, I missed that somewhere, close! Thanks.
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07-15-2008, 11:22 PM
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Does it look like they are draining that little pond? There seems to be a tube towards the end of the video maybe used to pump water out?
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07-15-2008, 11:23 PM
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ok, this is my understanding.....i read/heard that Brad didn't go to the party 
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I guess that rules out my theory he could've drugged her to cause her to not feel well. Maybe she was just exhausted from stress at home and her training.
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07-15-2008, 11:23 PM
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I don't know if this will work for you, but after calling our cable co. with the same problem, this is what they finally told us:
Put 8 in front of the channel number (ch. 25 becomes ch. 825). It worked. Maybe it will work for you.
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Thank you  I have called them and it still does it. Also some local stations. I guess I'll have to do it again!! 
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07-15-2008, 11:24 PM
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The more I think about this statement, I'm wondering if someone could've drugged her before or at the party? 
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I think they would have noticed if she were actually drugged, and based on the reported scratches on Brad, Im thinking this was not premeditated but a fight that went too far; if he set her on the embankment vs. dumping her in the pond, I would be further convinced of that. He had to carry her at "dead weight" in difficult terrain through brush, etc, in the dark as opposed to easily rolling her down the embankment into the pond.
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07-15-2008, 11:25 PM
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Does it look like they are draining that little pond? There seems to be a tube towards the end of the video maybe used to pump water out?
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Yes, that is what I was thinking and trying to understand if she had been removed already.
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07-15-2008, 11:25 PM
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Does it look like they are draining that little pond? There seems to be a tube towards the end of the video maybe used to pump water out?
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yes it does...i see the hose also...probably draining it out to look for further evidence?
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07-15-2008, 11:26 PM
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If the area is anything like where my brother lives, it's a nice cul-de-sac with woods and a place for extra water to go when it rains. I couldn't tell if that was a dirt path or not from the pics. Maybe locals run or walk there? How did the murderer know where to put her?
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07-15-2008, 11:28 PM
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To me this is very fearful. Trust goes out the window.
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cp this is only the tip of the iceberg imo. We're gonna see a lot more of this. I am a baby boomer and many of the younger generations don't seem to have the same core values as we do. It's an "All about ME world" to many.
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07-15-2008, 11:29 PM
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Oh, I missed that somewhere, close! Thanks. 
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07-15-2008, 11:30 PM
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Yes, that is what I was thinking and trying to understand if she had been removed already.
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same here, hmmm
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07-15-2008, 11:32 PM
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someone mentioned that they thought the children may have been left alone while Nancy's body was being disposed of....i meant to reply earlier, that i think it's very possible....
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