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Old 09-13-2008, 10:27 PM
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You were in the Knoxville area at the time?
Yes, I was there Wednesday and Thursday. I think it was Wednesday I heard it and I think they said they were leaving that afternoon or evening. I could be wrong which day though.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:28 PM
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Yes, I was there Wednesday and Thursday. I think it was Wednesday I heard it and I think they said they were leaving that afternoon or evening. I could be wrong which day though.
Thanks....I'm going to try to find a transcript of that somewhere in the Knoxville area.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:28 PM
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I believe they all FOUR better get separate attorneys because everyone is going to turn on the others before it is over.
I think you may be right. There may be some bus-throwing among this weird family.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:30 PM
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CA talked him into leaving the force to work in his father's car dealership. CA thought he might inherit. Her dream was quashed when GA threw his father through a plate glass window. Therafter, GA bought a car dealership, of his own. He did not do well, and they lost the house.
Cindy's brother Rick told it a little different. He said that GA was either asked to leave LE or was fired. He said the family could never get a straight story on it, and then his father let him work for him, until he threw him through the plate glass window. He maintains that GA has a serious gambling problem and that was why they lost their house in foreclosure.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:31 PM
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Well they are certainly not your "Ozzie and Harriett" family, I am showing my age, lol
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:34 PM
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Cindy's brother Rick told it a little different. He said that GA was either asked to leave LE or was fired. He said the family could never get a straight story on it, and then his father let him work for him, until he threw him through the plate glass window. He maintains that GA has a serious gambling problem and that was why they lost their house in foreclosure.
Correct. Also why he filed bankruptcy 2004, for the second time.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:35 PM
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Possibly, but that information would not be available. However, an offender would be required to register with the local LE. Most likely if the offender was a member of the household, he/she would be required to leave, or the child removed during investigation.
An offender only has to register after he is convicted. Many times if it is a family member, they will get someone else in the family to sign they will be in the presence of the offender and the child at all times and the child cannot be left alone with the offender until the investigation is complete. That is if they find another person is competent to uphold that agreement and I would say Cindy could have portrayed that person at the time. They rarely make them move out unless they have very solid proof and can file charges.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:38 PM
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Correct. Also why he filed bankruptcy 2004, for the second time.
Right.........I had forgotten about that. He also said that was why George's name was not on the deed to the house in Florida.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:41 PM
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Right.........I had forgotten about that. He also said that was why George's name was not on the deed to the house in Florida.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:46 PM
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My husband has a decent theory about what happened. He thinks Casey took Caylee to the babysitter just like she said she did. He thinks that when she went to pick Caylee up, Caylee was gone and the babysitter and Casey got into a fight, which resulted in the babysitter ending up dead. He thinks Casey acted in self defense. The babysitter may have sold Caylee and was lieing, saying she was kidnapped by very bad people, don't go to LE, etc.
He thinks the babysitter corpse is what was in the trunk and what the dogs hit on. I asked him how Casey could have moved the body of a grown woman alone and he said, maybe she wasn't alone when she went to pick Caylee up.
Did she kill the sitter and Caylee both? Keep in mind they found Caylee's hair and scalp with the death rings. That would mean two people are dead but LE didn't say anything about anyone's hair or other things being in the car but Caylee's.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:53 PM
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Okay, so Casey was fired in 2006. She didn't start stealing until around the time Caylee disappeared. Who else thinks maybe she was dealing drugs, and something went terribly wrong?

How was she caring for her child, cell phone etc with no job for 2 years? She had to have income from somewhere.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:04 PM
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Okay, so Casey was fired in 2006. She didn't start stealing until around the time Caylee disappeared. Who else thinks maybe she was dealing drugs, and something went terribly wrong?

How was she caring for her child, cell phone etc with no job for 2 years? She had to have income from somewhere.
Casey was NOT fired............she NEVER worked at Universal. I don't think she ever had a job. I think she had everyone fooled, and just sponged off her parents and her friends. One of her friends called her a parasite. That should tell us something.

I believe her parents kept her in gas money and running around money. We know Cindy bought everything for Caylee.......that part of her story I do believe.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:11 PM
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Casey was NOT fired............she NEVER worked at Universal. I don't think she ever had a job. I think she had everyone fooled, and just sponged off her parents and her friends. One of her friends called her a parasite. That should tell us something.

I believe her parents kept her in gas money and running around money. We know Cindy bought everything for Caylee.......that part of her story I do believe.
I agree with you, but the girl got money from somewhere, otherwise they absolutley would have noticed, kwim?
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:12 PM
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I've thought a lot about KC's jobless status. Sure she mooched but I'm still thinking there had to be money from somewhere. You can mooch meals, you can mooch drinks, but who puts gasoline in the car. Yeah, she stole from her grandparents and parents and Amy. How much did she steal? I haven't heard dollar amounts. KC still had to buy clothes, she had to put gasoline in the death car, she had a cell phone bill. And not just for the last few months. For years.

I think it is possible there was another cell phone and it had something to do with some kind of illegal or unsavory work. Drug-running or phone sex or something. But I don't think that is what caused Caylee's death. I'm just trying to fill in the blanks. As far as my theory on Caylee's death, I think the trunk was the babysitter and the poor child either got hold of recreational Chloroform in the trunk or died from the heat.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:25 PM
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She did not get gas money because her car ran out of gas all the time. Someone would always come to her rescue. That is also the reason why she was supposed to have stolen the full gas cans.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:26 PM
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Didn't someone find a picture on RM's FB or MS account that said something like "woo her with chloroform?" This couldn't possibly be a coincidence could it? I mean I don't necessarily think he had anything to do with Caylee, the trunk, and chloroform but I wonder if that is where KC got the idea? I think it could be likely that chloroform was being used as some kind of rec. drug in this crowd and KC just took it to another level. I mean I don't think any of these people would admit that to LE, not now!
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:31 PM
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Casey was NOT fired............she NEVER worked at Universal. I don't think she ever had a job. I think she had everyone fooled, and just sponged off her parents and her friends. One of her friends called her a parasite. That should tell us something.

I believe her parents kept her in gas money and running around money. We know Cindy bought everything for Caylee.......that part of her story I do believe.
Is this your belief or can it be backed up with proof? Because Im pretty sure that when I listened to the interrogation tapes yesterday he said she hadn't worked there since 2006, per the people at Universal. I admit I could be wrong, but I could have sworn I heard it.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:32 PM
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She did not get gas money because her car ran out of gas all the time. Someone would always come to her rescue. That is also the reason why she was supposed to have stolen the full gas cans.
Running out of gas a couple of times doesn't mean she didnt have gas money for 2 years.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:33 PM
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That makes more sense..I wish people would stop referring to him as "retired LE"..It makes him sound more important than he is/was.
I don't understand that myself. GA has been in Orlando since 1989 and he hasn't been LE since then. If he was ever a cop, it was relatively briefly, in Ohio and it was over twenty years ago. But do you notice how, when he's not shoving people around, he acts very much lie LE, with his fancy statement handwritting and such?
I think it likely that KC is more like her father than anyone realizes. Likes to make herself look important, where I think he may embellish the truth to make himself look more important than he is, she takes it to extremes. Because of the displays we've witnessed and my opinion that CA is a classic codependent, my guess is that GA's family has been shoved around by a stressed out, frustrated GA on a regular basis. She obviously can't hold a job. It would seem as though GA can't either. And then there's CA to "fix" everything for them both.
I still say what happened to Caylee was an accident of sorts. I think KC was pushed to the edge when she was told to get out and leave the baby. And I'll go one step further. When/if they find that child's body I bet they'll find past evidence of abuse because Caylee was the one thing that KC could control, and I think she did so, even if it meant jerking her around an beating on her to force her to conform. I think this one time when KC had one of her "GA" episodes, Caylee happened to be the one in the way and something seemingly trivial that Caylee did pushed KC over the edge. The chloroform, unrelated to THIS incident but yet another means for control..to MAKE Caylee go to sleep when KC demanded that she do so. Or perhaps to shut her up in a hurry.
I still believe that there was a blackjack phone and I think it's significant that the only two things missing are Caylee and that phone that supposedly wouldn't hold a charge. All of KC's lies seem to be rooted around some truth, and mentioning a blackjack phone was pointless. I think she knew they would find out she had it and she was setting up the lies surrounding it to explain it away ahead of time. I think KC hit her with the phone. Why else would you not return a defective "brand new" phone, unless you slammed it against something and that was the reason it wouldn't hold a charge? Warranty doesn't cover abuse..I know, I have AT&T.
Would make sense that if this were an accident, she would have taken the immunity deal, correct? But if it wasn't an accident, and the child's body will reveal something such as a skull fracture that looks remarkably similar to a blow caused by a blackjack phone, then it would make sense that she would flat out refuse to give up the body. Doing so would only make it worse on her and get her a possible death sentence.
She kept saying Caylee is "close" but that she doesn't know where she is. I think that's the cold, honest truth. I think she doesn't know where Caylee is because she put her in a dumpster or a trash can, that trash container was subsequently dumped, and exactly where it was dumped KC really doesn't know. But it was dumped somewhere close...she knows that much.
I think Caylee "belonged" to CA and KC couldn't accept that her own shortcomings caused that, it was CA's fault. She believed CA was just trying to steal her baby. When CA told KC to get out she probably told her to leave the baby. So KC's whole existence is about to crumble. CA just pulled the rug right out from under her entire "fantasy" life and she would be left in the street with nothing, and she could never explain this to these people who thought she was perfect. All they cared about was Caylee. All they wanted was Caylee. And for someone who intended for that child to be their meal ticket all along, this was enough to send her into a rage like no one had ever seen. Caylee was there..and in her unrational mind, it became Caylee's fault,
and she turned it loose on Caylee. KC was raised to believe that nothing was EVER her fault. Another biproduct of being raised by a codependent mother.
The 16th, that's my guess. She hit her with the phone sometime between 1pm and 2pm. She went back to the house after GA left for "work" or whatever. 3pm Caylee falls out or starts acting crazy. The flurry of calls. No one answers. This gives KC time to realize that SHE caused this and telling someone wasn't such a good idea. I don't think Caylee was dead but KC thought she was and put her in the trunk where she left her until she could figure out what to do with her. And sometime later, within a matter of minutes or hours, Caylee died in the trunk of that car. I think the stain in the trunk proved/will prove to be urine...from when her poor little body "let go."
Dogs hit in the back yard because she sat Caylee's body in those three places intending at some point to put her in the playhouse, in the sandbox, and she left her by the corner of the house while she retrieved a shovel. The ground was just too hard. Then her brainstorming told her she could burn the child, so of course she took the cans with her. That was no good either because smoke and fire attract attention. Water burial is WAY too risky, especially in a populated area. The dumpster or trash can was her last resort, and I believe she considered every other possibility imaginable. Which would explain why the child was in the trunk for so long. Where was Caylee when GA went in the trunk and found the cans and why was there no smell then? One, gas cans. Two, Caylee could have been IN the trunk at that time, in a duffle bag for example and perhaps wrapped well in lawn bags. Walmart sells some mean contractor bags. The bag or container "leaked" after that and left the smell, or biological material leaked out when she was removing Caylee from the trunk.
If she was in the trunk on the 24th and not in the car on the 26th when it was abandoned, then Caylee actually disappeared, her body disappeared, the 24th, 25th or 26th. The car broke down in the middle of an intersection supposedly. That wasn't planned. I say she was in the trunk until the car broke down and she put her in the dumpster because she didn't dare leave that car sitting there with Caylee in the trunk. It was dark and the child weighed in excess of thirty pounds. I say she caught the bag or container on the trunk latch or something else and bio-material was deposited in the trunk and on the other contents of the trunk..and she didn't realize it. With the car shut up no one really noticed. It was when the car was opened that the smell was noticable.
Yes, that's my story and I'm sticking with that. I just wish SOMETHING would happen so I can stop asking myself what happened!!!!! Yeah, I wrote a book. At least it gave you something to do for ten minutes while nothing ELSE is going on in this case except for the passing of time!!
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:36 PM
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Is this your belief or can it be backed up with proof? Because Im pretty sure that when I listened to the interrogation tapes yesterday he said she hadn't worked there since 2006, per the people at Universal. I admit I could be wrong, but I could have sworn I heard it.
You're right, I heard the investigators say the same thing.. that she had not worked there since 2006
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Ok, I have been thinking. This is just what if? Im just trying to look at alternatives.

What we know is......

Cindy was last seen with Caylee on Father's Day
George claims he saw them the following Monday with backpacks leaving the house
Tony's roommate said that Casey spent the night at their apartment on Father's Day
There was a spurt of phone calls to Cindy et al on Monday around 3, a couple of hours after George supposedly saw Casey and Caylee
There was chloroform in the trunk
George picked up the car from impound
Casey told Tony that her father was picking her car up from Amscot

So, I was thinking. George seemed to be at home at least part of the day. What if Casey spent the night at Tony's house, and came home to find everybody gone. The spurt of phone calls that went unanswered were "where is my kid?" calls. She thinks Caylee is with her parents, which is why she is partying like it 1999 a few days later. She was later given a script, but not by Zanny, but by George. George is LE, he has threatened or scared her in some way. And it is possible she doesn't even know what happened to Caylee. Cindy and George are her out of jail before she does talk. They know she is scared and they need her home in order to keep fear in her. George is the one that is coming up with the afterthought stories. Gas cans, seeing her on the 24th, he definately has a temper.

Other thoughts.....

What the he** would Casey know about Chloroform. Casey is a huge liar and everybody knows that, which could always be used against her. Cindy said it herself......Just because you are a liar doesn't make you a murderer.

OK, just a thought. Trying to figure this out. Just another theory. I don't necessarily believe it, but remember JB was trying to get Casey some sort of immunity. IDK, just thinking out loud, trying to make some sense of it all. Anybody have any thoughts?
Hmmm Nnglas now you've got me thinking. This is a fairly possible theory. Certainly makes sense why Casey is so tight-lipped. She's not going to rat out her parents. And, this theory would lend itself to why Cindy and George refuse to admit or even consider their granddaugher is dead.
If I were writng a plot, this would be great, a flip flop from what the American audience is watching unfold on televsions and in the news. I bet I'm going to dream about this tonight on how the entire situation can undo itself.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:47 PM
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This would be a possibility to me IF Cindy were unaware of it in the beginning.

I just don't see them going on every show they could in the beginning and making it into a national show if CA knew what had happened. I think they would have just covered it up...

Just thinking out loud again..
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Is this your belief or can it be backed up with proof? Because Im pretty sure that when I listened to the interrogation tapes yesterday he said she hadn't worked there since 2006, per the people at Universal. I admit I could be wrong, but I could have sworn I heard it.
According to the 400 pages Casey did work at Universal until 2006.
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WOW..Shutterfly..I completely agree...thats almost exactly what I think...Thank you for taking the time to post all the details!
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I am sorry - I do not know where to post this or how to find my answers out

Laura r*se - could this be a fake myspace acct that kc made up to use and link zg etc? who is she and where did she come from and yes i know kc left comments in her myspace act

i was told kc met/hooking up w/ william w. june 30- to july 4 but someone posted that amy h made a statement that kc met william w. at a july 4th party with amy h and it was a one night stand...true or false - before july4 or before july 4th- i know the hook up is real...is william w. really tonE roomate clint h. brother in law?

please tell me where i can post this to get my answers plz...ty

lauren g***s....was she amy h roomate first and frds with kc and lauren invited kc to lauren bday party june 06 that amy h thru for lauran and thats when kc assimulated herself into amy h world? but how did kc meet lauran g? and her brother kyle g ? is she the laura that went to aschool with kc?
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