REVISIT There wasn't a babysitter, Casey didn't have a job,What's going on?

[TURBOTHINK]

Originally Posted by Jolynna

I think the "officers" who admitted to having sex with Casey are a clue.

What Casey was doing at Universal that wasn't work and wasn't fun is also a clue.

I think Casey was earning money doing what Monica L. (the one of blue dress fame) is known for doing.

No apartment needed.

No need for a babysitter, Caylee could wait in the car with a book & toys.

Enough could be earned for target dresses and some gas money or to buy drinks but Casey would need to steal to impress Tony and send her friends on trips. (I doubt Casey worked any more than she had to at her "job" or did it more than she had to.)

It would explain a passing aquaintenance with a woman in her late 30's that didn't live in her neighborhood.

IMO

I think you are on to something there. I personally believe she most likley is a meth addict. That is standard procedure for meth addicts to get their drugs.

[kh1967]

Originally Posted by LuluBelle

If Casey hasn't had a job since 2006, Universal, where was she getting money, just to live on. I know she did not have to pay rent, food, utilities, etc. But you need some money just for everyday use, to get a soda, clothes, etc. Where did that come from? Who was paying her cell phone bill? I know she paid a large ATT bill, but if you don't pay for a couple of months your service gets cut off. And if she said that Universal was paying the bill, her parents weren't paying it. If she put this on a credit card that was not hers, don't you think someone would have noticed it after a year or so?

Apparently she stole and borrowed from many different people over a long period of time.

[kh1967]

Originally Posted by Sassynic

I wonder where she was too. What really bothers me is not knowing where her and Caylee slept at night during the time she was staying with Tony. From what I understand, Caylee never stayed overnight at his house. That really really bothers me. I have a suspicion she was sleeping in the car and at some point and it wouldn't surprise me if Casey used a sleep agent such as Nyquil to knock Caylee out to sleep all those nights. I cannot imagine a 2 year old being well behaved and quiet in a car overnight.

It is sickening to think about what really went on for the poor baby at night time.

[Hope for the Best]

Originally Posted by Breaking Heart

I doubt that KC put Caylee in a car while she was out doing whatever each night, especially over a 2yr period. IMO, the Florida heat would have killed Caylee at some point. But, I too, would love to know what/where Casey was all these times she was 'going to work'.

I don't think it would have been over a 2 year period. It sounds like up until a week before she disappeared, she had stayed with C & G most of the time, except maybe when she stayed with Ricardo, and the three of them slept together, per Ricardo's testimony. EWW! But, you are right, the Florida heat would have killed her, and it probably did.

[tttterri]

Casey told Amy and Tony she had 10 to 15000 in the bank, which was saved up for Caylee. She prob accessed Caylees trust fund that Cindy prob had and took that money. She could have put it somewhere else in another bank. Not that she didnt spend any of it later, but maybe she did indeed remove that amt using her moms cards and info, plus we do not know she did spend it all. Maybe thats whats she is paying Baez with.

[Short_Stuff]

I guess she was out shopping all day with other peoples money and then partying all night and sleeping with men.
It just amazes me that no one knew where Casey was. I know where my kids are 99% of the time (and they are grown but I talk to my daughter daily, my son 3 times a week), And I certainly know who babysits my grandkids and I have her address and phone number.
I find it HARD to believe her parents didnt know she wasnt working.
They must be one disfunctional family.

[YellowDog]

Could she have been meeting clients (men) in the parking lot of Universal Studios? Remember when Lee asked her if she was at Universal working or for other reasons? It was almost like she and Lee were speaking in code.

[krimekat]

Originally Posted by CASuzk

No, she does not look like a long term crack or meth user, her teeth are too good.

I agree . . . no crack, no meth . . . teeth too perfect

[justbeachy]

I just spent some time today looking at Orlando escort websites. I didn't see any photos of Casey, but ugh....I need a shower.

[krimekat]

Originally Posted by Brini

Rick said he thought it might have been closer to $25,000.

and I read where Cindy cleaned out her 401(k) stash to "help" KC -- most likely from Rick posts

[Rose Mom]

Originally Posted by Jolynna

Jesus O.'s mother's name according to the obit is Olga.

I'm sorry someone posted this yesterday


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Submitted by zenaida ortiz, May 7, 2007 16:18


I respect the wishes of those parents who don't wish their children to have any contact with their grandparents. In some cases it is good. But for others like me, who only wants to see her grandchild but is constantly impeded by the other grandparent who has custody--it is not fair. And laws are to protect all grandparents. We cannot pick and chose who will benefit from grandparents rights or not. My situation is unique. The mother of my grandchild is mentally incapacited and her mother (the other grandmother) is a Jehova Witness and for some reason does not particularly want me to see my grandchild on a regular basis. There have been issues relating to the safety of the child because of the parent's emotional state and she has been violent and is under a doctor's care. I had the occasion of speaking with Child Welfare Bureau agency staff and so has my son who currently resides in Florida. I want to be a part of this child's life. She does know me and tells me she loves me. This relationship should not be taken away. My religion is different and I do not hold it against them. I feel I should be in her life so I can keep track of her and see for myself that she is being provided for in a loving, healthy manner. My grandchild needs to know she is also loved by the family of her father even though he cannot physically live in the area.

[Brini]

Originally Posted by krimekat

and I read where Cindy cleaned out her 401(k) stash to "help" KC -- most likely from Rick posts

Yes. Rick said she had to go into her 401K to cover the thefts.

[Brini]

Originally Posted by TURBOTHINK

I think you are on to something there. I personally believe she most likley is a meth addict. That is standard procedure for meth addicts to get their drugs.

I think KC is too vain of her looks, to mess with meth.

Meth constricts the blood vessals. So, the tissues becom e starved.

That's why the teeth rot quickly from the roots. That's also why meth users often end up aging 20 years in a few years.

I don't think KC is addicted to anything. She didn't have to be detoxed, when she was in jail.

[Sassynic]

Originally Posted by Breaking Heart

I doubt that KC put Caylee in a car while she was out doing whatever each night, especially over a 2yr period. IMO, the Florida heat would have killed Caylee at some point. But, I too, would love to know what/where Casey was all these times she was 'going to work'.

But how about overnight? It gets down to 70ish here in central FL overnight about spring/fall. Summer could be hotter.

Either way, I really am curious where they stayed overnight all those times that she left Tony's house with Caylee.

[Sassynic]

Originally Posted by CiCi

I was just thinking th same thing... that both Casey and Caylee may have spent some nights sleeping in the car. Ane of course, if this is true, than Casey would not have wanted Caylee to tell grandma about this, so very possible she was knocking her out with Nyquill or some other means (chloroform).

I was mulling over the chloroform/sleep theory but it wouldn't make sense because chloroform only knocks a person out for a few mins at a time. It's not used to put someone to sleep all night. Nyquil or something like that would have been cheaper, easier to use, and would have done that job.

My suspicion is that she used the chloroform to kill Caylee without blood or screaming. *shudder*.

The use of the chemical will come out in trial since LE has the search terms she used when she was researching it.

JMO

[Sassynic]

Originally Posted by TURBOTHINK

I think you are on to something there. I personally believe she most likley is a meth addict. That is standard procedure for meth addicts to get their drugs.

I have to disagree. She doesn't appear physically to be a meth addict. No suken cheeks, sores, ect. Also, she would have gone thru some major withdrawl sickness from her stints in jail. We would have seen her come out looking absolutely terrible.

I don't think she was/is addicted to anything. But I do believe she dabbled in drugs. Maybe weed and ectasy like some others have mentioned.

[Sassynic]

Originally Posted by marellano

I just spent some time today looking at Orlando escort websites. I didn't see any photos of Casey, but ugh....I need a shower.

They also advertise on Craigslist....

[TURBOTHINK]

Originally Posted by tttterri

Casey told Amy and Tony she had 10 to 15000 in the bank, which was saved up for Caylee. She prob accessed Caylees trust fund that Cindy prob had and took that money. She could have put it somewhere else in another bank. Not that she didnt spend any of it later, but maybe she did indeed remove that amt using her moms cards and info, plus we do not know she did spend it all. Maybe thats whats she is paying Baez with.

That bimbo didn't have a dime. That was ALL a lie just like all the others. She was trying to impress Tony...........She also told Amy she was getting the Anthony's house and they would live there - but that was not going to happen either unless she planned to kill them.

[MD MOMMY]

Originally Posted by kh1967

Apparently she stole and borrowed from many different people over a long period of time.

I've always wondered how long actually. We've only seen stuff of late and it doesn't appear KC has a record so I'm wondering if she's been stealing for 2 plus years..that is a long time for someone to put up with it IMHO.

[TURBOTHINK]

Originally Posted by Sassynic

I have to disagree. She doesn't appear physically to be a meth addict. No suken cheeks, sores, ect. Also, she would have gone thru some major withdrawl sickness from her stints in jail. We would have seen her come out looking absolutely terrible.

I don't think she was/is addicted to anything. But I do believe she dabbled in drugs. Maybe weed and ectasy like some others have mentioned.

It takes a number of years to have those symptoms in a young person. You notice them more on women in their 30s. I have observed many young women her age with no appearance of meth addiction, who were very addicted and stole/hooked/etc. to maintain that addiction. She did have some suspicious looking places on her face and shoulders if you blow up some of her pictures.

If she had meth withdrawals it would not be that obvious. The only withdrawal symptoms are tiredness/sleeping for days, hunger/overeating, and depression/the blues. They said she SLEPT all the time when she was in jail, so the more I read, the more I am convinced she was a meth addict.

[Lady Loves Lurking]

Originally Posted by Sassynic

They also advertise on Craigslist....

I think it's more accurate to say the real escorts advertise on Craigslist. Them and LE.

Good sleuthing all of you. I swear I read more intelligent conversations then i have.

[TURBOTHINK]

Originally Posted by Brini

I think KC is too vain of her looks, to mess with meth.

Meth constricts the blood vessals. So, the tissues becom e starved.

That's why the teeth rot quickly from the roots. That's also why meth users often end up aging 20 years in a few years.

I don't think KC is addicted to anything. She didn't have to be detoxed, when she was in jail.

She has ALL CAPPED teeth..........You don't have to be detoxed from meth.

[Sassynic]

Originally Posted by TURBOTHINK

It takes a number of years to have those symptoms in a young person. You notice them more on women in their 30s. I have observed many young women her age with no appearance of meth addiction, who were very addicted and stole/hooked/etc. to maintain that addiction. She did have some suspicious looking places on her face and shoulders if you blow up some of her pictures.

If she had meth withdrawals it would not be that obvious. The only withdrawal symptoms are tiredness/sleeping for days, hunger/overeating, and depression/the blues. They said she SLEPT all the time when she was in jail, so the more I read, the more I am convinced she was a meth addict.

We'll know soon enough if prosecutors decide to use that against her in trials to explain her behavior...

[MCDRAW]

Originally Posted by Brini

I think KC is too vain of her looks, to mess with meth.

Meth constricts the blood vessals. So, the tissues becom e starved.

That's why the teeth rot quickly from the roots. That's also why meth users often end up aging 20 years in a few years.

I don't think KC is addicted to anything. She didn't have to be detoxed, when she was in jail.

How do we know she wasn't detoxed in jail? I'm just wondering, I have a brother that is a drug addict. No one would know he detoxed in jail but the people in jail with him. I'm just wondering if that was in a article somewhere.

[MD MOMMY]

I honestly think KC probably put Caylee to bed at home and went out later just like most people her age do..around 9pm. I think that may have been part of the problem CA had with KC. She probably didn't get back in time in the morning to care for Caylee etc. or if Caylee got up in the middle of the night which happens a lot with 2-3 year olds..night terrors etc.

I remember the interview early on inside the A's house where CA says that Caylee slept almost every night with KC in her bed.. I doubt it considering we know she appeared to not be home often at night.

JMO of course.