Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #23

[michelle]

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

It means it came up on the caller ID as No Name No Number or Private.

Oh how convienant, cant they pull phone records and look that way?

[MsScarlet]

Originally Posted by BethInAK

In our area our AT&T phones say "Private Caller" - i wonder if it depends what part of the network you are on.

That could be. I'm in the Northeast so that could def be the case.

[SeriouslySearching]

Originally Posted by RR0004

Can anyone help me with this?

In the phone conversation with Lee, she mentioned writing letters to the family...her family (?)

Also to answer the question who knows you're looking for Caylee...Jeff, Juliet...then Lee says...and "Zanny"...and she adds and "Zanny"...were they trying to imply that Zanny may have passed the child off?

The part about the bonding...mom would understand the most...really, did she have any idea her daughter was in DANGER?

The part about her giving Lee the resources and he found out more than LE and she gave them (LE) the same info...if Lee found out pertinent information wouldn't he be obligated to report it to LE?

They key word is pertinent. Yes. However, he can track down all of the supposed 100 leads on his own if he is so inclined to do so...just like a PI could do. It honestly would not surprise me at all if Lee didn't have a 100 leads to track down that LE refused to look into. We already know they did not look for other Zenaida's as we have found many here, too. In state and out.

[RR0004]

Originally Posted by Ladybass0711

As far as I know thats what all the media is saying, and thats what casey is leading them to beleive, what else should they be saying??

Did Cindy say she (Casey) pointed to the obit and said "See he died in a car accident" or did she say "See he died" ? I can't remember. But, I thought the first time I heard about a car accident was when we looked up Jesus (in search of someone who may have died from Casey's circle). I may be mistaken and apologize ahead of time if I'm wrong.

[liltigress]

OH boy. Did they just say on NG that her current cell phone has not been recovered? They said they went over Tony's place with a fine tooth comb where she said she last had it and they never found it.

There's something to contemplate.

[nursebeeme]

Originally Posted by BethInAK

It appears to be AT&T since Lee was requesting in the last phone call to get her account information for the login to the website to look for phone numbers.

she gave out her info and it is all over the internet and tvs of america....could we check her messages lol...just kidding

[angela s]

Originally Posted by athy

maybe we could have a thread that is on updated info found by posters for each day. that way if someone misses a day they can look on that thread and get a jist of whats been covered for the day.

great idea

[eleven]

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

It means it came up on the caller ID as No Name No Number or Private.

IF the number came up "private", then how could Casey have called it back? What I mean is, in one of the first 911 calls, Casey said she talked to Caylee that day but that the number was subsequently disconnected on the same day. So....if she is NOW saying the number came up as "private", how could she have possibly known if it was subequently disconnected? You can't press redial on a "private" number!!!

:furi ous:

[nursebeeme]

Originally Posted by liltigress

OH boy. Did they just say on NG that her current cell phone has not been recovered? They said they went over Tony's place with a fine tooth comb where she said she last had it and they never found it.

There's something to contemplate.

I have a hinky feeling that grandma has it she sure has done an about face about casey since those two 911 calls when she wanted to press charges for grand theft auto and stealing money! I have big problems with gmas about face guys...

[harleysnana]

Originally Posted by babycat

Not to pick at your post, but then how does that tie in with her lying that Zanny worked at Universal, lived at that apartment (which was vacant) zanny's mother's apartment (who never lived there) and the supposed link to Jeff Hopkins, who had never heard of her? Also, it seems more than one person would have known this Zenaida Gonzales by that name, if she hung around Fusian, and all of the other clubs, like Casey had reported. Surely every person that met her at that club didn't know her by a different name.

I'm not oblivious to that culture...I know that people use aliases. We've had out share of bad apples in the family, too.

Like I said, not trying to pick at your post, just trying to help piece together your theory, to see if we can get it pretty solid.

The only pieces I could offer would be from my personal experience with
my X son in law.
But this story fits his to a T (other than his daughter isn’t missing!)
….Fabricated names, Vacant apartments, Meetings on the "stair way".
He wouldn't go out and "promote" his business and give his Drug Dealers name... infact he didn't even know his drug dealers name!
He only knew where she lived.

Like I said… JMO.
The only alternative is Caylee is dead and I’m just not ready to think that!

[Blue_Dolphin308]

As far as I know it has always been reported that the guy died from a car accident a year ago.

Can I add

I will be so glad when we are on the new server!!!!

[Melly53]

Originally Posted by nursebeeme

or someone is holding it for her!!!!! (no flames please...but would gma do that? I don't see her knowing what happened to Caylee but I can see her hiding the cell phone for Casey...or Casey stashing it somewhere in the house between the first and second encounter with police pre arrest)

I wonder if the supposed "lost" phone is the one that LE reportedly picked up from TonE's place. I remember the cell phone mention from the media story that was done on TonE. It struck me as unusual because most people her age are never without their cellphones. I will try to find a link to the story.

[Elley Mae]

She told lee on phone conversation that 2 phones lost IIRC

[Cubby]

Originally Posted by BethInAK

<snip>
I suppose it is possible that shes overextended her credit with some dealer, who has taken her kid as collateral until she pays it off.

But for this to be true wouldn't Caseys debt have to exceed the reward money? Why not just come forward as the "Nanny" collect the reward to pay off the debt plus some- and find some reason why she hadn't heard the news? Was watching kids programming as opposed to the news?

[CarrieSis]

New article out, they've ruled out the airport sighting due to the age not matching Caylee's.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar...ylee_case.html

[RR0004]

Originally Posted by eleven

IF the number came up "private", then how could Casey have called it back? What I mean is, in one of the first 911 calls, Casey said she talked to Caylee that day but that the number was subsequently disconnected on the same day. So....if she is NOW saying the number came up as "private", how could she have possibly known if it was subequently disconnected? You can't press redial on a "private" number!!!

:furi ous:

Can you please forward this to someone in the media down in Orlando...or LE?

[liltigress]

Originally Posted by nursebeeme

I have a hinky feeling that grandma has it she sure has done an about face about casey since those two 911 calls when she wanted to press charges for grand theft auto and stealing money! I have big problems with gmas about face guys...

Sure looks like her mother will do anything to protect her daughter. Too bad that trait wasn't inherited.

[missy1970]

Originally Posted by absolut_alexis

Well, I have two cell phones with the same number (I switch the sim card between them) and I'll explain why, though I doubt Casey's reasons are at all similar.

For work, there are some places I need to go where no one is allowed to have cameras, because I am around copyrighted images and patented designs. So when I go to those buildings, I have to switch my SIM card into my phone that has no camera.

This has also come up with internet access and text messaging, because they want control that we were not secretly texting details, etc. I mean, you can hear when a person is on the phone. (I am in tech writing/editing.) So with that phone, I had my regular cell phone, but I had to get a disposible phone that would use my SIM card that did not have any internet or texting capabilities, and I had to show them my notes before I left.

Like I said, I really doubt Casey is involved in any copyright or patent protection issues, but it is possible that there are reasons to have two phones sharing one number, particularly if you are hanging around people who check your phone.

Thank you! I hadnt, obviously, thought of that.

Of course, I realized that there may be reasons that some folks would do that, however....I highly doubt Casey is one of those.

[liltigress]

Originally Posted by Elley Mae

She told lee on phone conversation that 2 phones lost IIRC

I'll have to listen to that again. I thought she said LE has one and the other was the lost black jack.

[kathyn2]

I wonder if the cops have put together and sort of info on what and where Casey was for the 31 days? Or is it longer? Who did she stay with each nite? Was she living in the car? Caylee was alive part of that time. Where was she all day and nite? I wonder if they have talked to all her friends to see if she was with any of them? I wonder if they asked her where she was the whole month and what her answer was? NO ONE seems to know where this woman spent each day and nite of the month. Who really watched the baby when she went off with that boyfriend on a mini vacation? Was there a mini vacation? LE must have some of these answers.

[RR0004]

Originally Posted by Ladybass0711

As far as I know it has always been reported that the guy died from a car accident a year ago.

Can I add

I will be so glad when we are on the new server!!!!

We're not on the new server? Then what the heck happened on Saturday?

[bluedevil21]

Originally Posted by Stander Verwoerd

When push comes to shove I really think you're right here. But her nonchalant behavior smells to me. Casey's behavior is too matter of fact. She's too relaxed for someone who killed their child. I guess one would have to look at Casey's past to get a feel for who she is. But this month she was gone, why, where was she and what was she planning? This just doesn't seem like someone who kills their child and goes about their business. She was planning something. Perhaps it was murder, who knows.

i agree with both of you....

i think maybe, at the most, casey had ties to drug dealers (king merk, merk = getting stoned, apparently). but lets be serious, she is not the brightest crayon in the box. if she was dealing, she would have been picked up months ago and then lied with some unbelievable excuse like a fairy planted that cocaine, officer, and then flew away, while explaining why drugs were in her system by saying that the evil fairy injected her with a magic potion. i don't see her having the ability, the means, the street smarts for this. and if you are dealing full-time, she would have no reason to run up her credit cards at all. dealers would much rather pay in cash and leave their fingerprints no where - she, on the other hand, leaves them everywhere. i also don't think a lot of drug dealing college-aged kids in florida moonlight as baby stealers, even if for collateral purposes.

i can't help but think that the nanny does not exist. maybe i'm just being skeptical, but caylee has been missing for over a month and a half already. and casey, but a few days ago, was still "protecting the family" from these evil nanny kidnappers. it was as the evidence has mounted, the holes in her story established, that all of a sudden she has become more forthcoming.

in fact, if you take away all of the craziness that results from her statements on the nanny, casey is actually a bit more believable (dont get me wrong, she is a pathological liar). she doubled down on this nanny excuse, which made no sense to begin with, and as she has added things to clarify (this phone thing, the senior living facility, not knowing the nanny's address, or the phone number, her wild goose chase trying to find the nanny's apartment, no neighbors had seen this nanny or caylee even though she apparently was there every day, all of the numbers being immediately disconnected, looking for the nanny at bars while drinking her face off and inviting everyone in the myspace community to "join her at fusian!!!! tony will be there!!!!", knowing the nanny for 4 years but no one has ever met her, dropping caylee off at the nanny's every day but not knowing anything about her.....)

it makes no sense. i know it gives us hope that caylee could still be alive, and i wish that more than anything; but in reality, it has been over a month a half (almost as long as tony and casey's brief relationship, how sweet) and this poor little girl's mother is still not talking, still making excuses, and still being uncooperative.

all signs point to casey. LE zeroed in on her and they have never really left - i think that is because they have amassed evidence that establishes this conclusively. they have the phone and credit card records already - those are easy to obtain. i assume they already have her computer records, as well. this could obliterate every single lie casey has told them thus far. i think just the phone records, based on whatever number she gave them for the nanny (since she called the nanny that morning and it was apparently disconnected), would directly lead to her culpability. i would love to hear her try to explain it all....

in my opinion, sadly, it isnt so much a question of who took caylee - it is a determination of what casey did to her and when.

[absolut_alexis]

Okay, I think this is possible to do (but I also think Casey is lying).

When someone leaves a message for me, even private, my options include call back this number. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. I often get calls from the UK, and the call appears as private, but when I hook my phone up to my computer, I see the number on my phone software (Float - it is available on sourceforge.com). It depends on how the networks translate the numbers.

Originally Posted by eleven

IF the number came up "private", then how could Casey have called it back? What I mean is, in one of the first 911 calls, Casey said she talked to Caylee that day but that the number was subsequently disconnected on the same day. So....if she is NOW saying the number came up as "private", how could she have possibly known if it was subequently disconnected? You can't press redial on a "private" number!!!

:furi ous:

[SuziQ]

I highly doubt there is a second phone. It's just something Casey threw out there for an excuse as to why she didn't have anyone's phone numbers. She doesn't remember where she bought the phone and conveniently it's lost minus the SIMS card. SIMS cards do not fall out of phones. They are tightly inserted inside a phone. Even if the back came off, the Sim card would stay in. There's so many holes in the phone story it's rediculous.

[CarrieSis]

If you go with the tale that Casey is spinning, the 2 cell phones make sense in the context that Absolut shared. A kidnapper that doesn't want photos taken or a recording of what they are saying, etc.. but wants a cell carried to be able to get ahold of her.