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Old 10-01-2008, 09:30 AM
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Drumstick, I tend to agree with you...except, if she was drugging Caylee and leaving her in the car, it is possible that this could have happened sometime later in the week.
I think we can account for Caylee every night until the 16th of June.

That's when she disappears from everyone.

Most of the time when a case gets stuck or stalled it's because someone is proved to be a liar and has led LE on the wrong track.
Besides Casey, there has to be another liar in this mess.

I'm guessing it's someone in the family.
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:40 AM
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Besides Casey, there has to be another liar in this mess.

I'm guessing it's someone in the family.
ITA 100% on this. I said it before, and I'll say it again. We all think that someone is covering for Casey, but what if Casey is making stories to cover for someone else?
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:44 AM
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Yep!

People that tell the truth don't have any problem taking a LDT.

The phone information from the 16th of June is the starting place in locating Caylee.

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Old 10-01-2008, 09:45 AM
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I'm thinking since no one saw Caylee after Monday, June 16th, (Casey spent the night with TL ... no Caylee) we should figure out every detail of the 16th.

Whatever she did with Caylee was on that day. IMO

Even if we have to chart or make a solo thread for the 16th, I think the answer is somewhere in that day.

The flurry of calls that afternoon appear to be checking to make sure no one was at home before she went back to look for cash or collect more of her stuff since she had moved some of her clothes to TL's apt the day before.

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Tony says Casey did NOT spend the night with him on the 15th. And by the 16th she had been arrested. Tony had a thread over on another site where he answered questions. He said Clint was mistaken in Greta's interview.
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Tony says Casey did NOT spend the night with him on the 15th. And by the 16th she had been arrested. Tony had a thread over on another site where he answered questions. He said Clint was mistaken in Greta's interview.
After looking over the cell phone "pings" for the night of the 15th to 16th it is apparent that Casey was at the Anthony home all night that night. She and AL were in contact by texting and cell phone frequently until around 3:00am.

I believe the call from the Anthony home to Casey's cell phone on the morning of the 16th was to either find the phone in the house, or to do a remote call for voice mail messages (since the cell phone may have been dead from using it all night).
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:51 AM
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Can someone tell me is the phone records show Casey at home on the 24th before George leaves for work, when he found the gas cans? Sorry haven't had anytime to look the information up myself.
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I don't see how we can account for Caylee the night of June 15th on. There are no sightings of her anywhere that can be substantiated. With the A fam refusing to take LDTs, the lies we have already heard, and the the way they have misconstrued so much of this case...they are not credible witnesses, imo.

There must have been a huge fight for the neighbor to have mentioned it and according to LP...LA has information regarding this, too. This part is confusing if she did not spend the night with AL. Could she have spent the night in her car near the A home so the pings would be coming from there still?
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:59 AM
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I agree she could have called from the home phone to find her cell phone on June 16th. Except, doesn't the cell phone record show a text message being sent at EXACTLY the same time that the home phone calls her cell phone?
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Can someone tell me is the phone records show Casey at home on the 24th before George leaves for work, when he found the gas cans? Sorry haven't had anytime to look the information up myself.
I don't know when GA left for work that morning. I can say that based on the cell phone logs Casey only used her phone twice that morning and they both "pinged" near AL's place.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:02 AM
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Tony says Casey did NOT spend the night with him on the 15th. And by the 16th she had been arrested. Tony had a thread over on another site where he answered questions. He said Clint was mistaken in Greta's interview.
IIRC Tony was talking about JUNE 15th and she was arrested JULY 16th. It's JUNE 15th that she appears to be at home (by the pings) and texting him until 3:00 a.m. on the 16th.
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I don't see how we can account for Caylee the night of June 15th on. There are no sightings of her anywhere that can be substantiated. With the A fam refusing to take LDTs, the lies we have already heard, and the the way they have misconstrued so much of this case...they are not credible witnesses, imo.

There must have been a huge fight for the neighbor to have mentioned it and according to LP...LA has information regarding this, too. This part is confusing if she did not spend the night with AL. Could she have spent the night in her car near the A home so the pings would be coming from there still?
Yep, but I don't think anything happened to Caylee the night of the 15th, if KC left w/her after the big fight....

Since the dogs hit in the yard, this means KC would have to placed the body in the yard & then move it again.......
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:13 AM
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Yep, but I don't think anything happened to Caylee the night of the 15th, if KC left w/her after the big fight....

Since the dogs hit in the yard, this means KC would have to placed the body in the yard & then move it again.......
Which very well could have been done on the night of June 15th/morning of June 16th. I believe Caylee was there, too. The question is only when was she placed there? The phone pings are important to try to pinpoint this.
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Yep, but I don't think anything happened to Caylee the night of the 15th, if KC left w/her after the big fight....

Since the dogs hit in the yard, this means KC would have to placed the body in the yard & then move it again.......
It doesn't appear that KC left with Caylee that night, though. Her phone is used pretty heavily all night from the 15th into the morning of the 16th. All of these calls were from the Anthony house.

Unless...KC left with Caylee and left without her phone (not likely considering I think it is attached to her ear). Perhaps the calls from the Anthony home to AL were actually calls and texts from CA to KC (using AL's phone).

Do we know the approximate time of the fight?
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:31 AM
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Tony says Casey did NOT spend the night with him on the 15th. And by the 16th she had been arrested. Tony had a thread over on another site where he answered questions. He said Clint was mistaken in Greta's interview.
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Clint did say she spent the night and the reason he remembers this is that he went to visit his father on fathers day and returned on fathers day about 6:00 pm. And if there was a fight between her and Cindy and Cindy lunged at her throat, I think the odds of Casey taking off to her boyfriends that night is highly probable. So either Clint or Cindy & Tony & George is lying where she was that night. I believe if she has past which looks like she is and Casey did leave with Caylee then it happen on this night. So July 16 in the afternoon would have left enough fluids that were released by Caylee in that trunk. So it is very well possible she took Caylee to this area to dispose this beutiful child. I just can't believe she was able to hold off for 31 days before it was reported.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:32 AM
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Which very well could have been done on the night of June 15th/morning of June 16th. I believe Caylee was there, too. The question is only when was she placed there? The phone pings are important to try to pinpoint this.
Yep, I've said all along the the phones/pings would help solve things.....

wish I was 'puter savy enough to help w/the ping thing....LOL
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:36 AM
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It doesn't appear that KC left with Caylee that night, though. Her phone is used pretty heavily all night from the 15th into the morning of the 16th. All of these calls were from the Anthony house.

Unless...KC left with Caylee and left without her phone (not likely considering I think it is attached to her ear). Perhaps the calls from the Anthony home to AL were actually calls and texts from CA to KC (using AL's phone).

Do we know the approximate time of the fight?
I don't think the neighbor put a time to hearing the fight, maybe late afternoon, if CA is correct about her & Caylee going swimming.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:39 AM
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Has anyone found the call KC was supposed to get from Cindy on the 24th ?? (after 10AM)
Cindy said she told KC about GA reporting the shed break in/gas cans, which prompted KC to return them that afternoon.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:49 AM
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Clint did say she spent the night and the reason he remembers this is that he went to visit his father on fathers day and returned on fathers day about 6:00 pm. And if there was a fight between her and Cindy and Cindy lunged at her throat, I think the odds of Casey taking off to her boyfriends that night is highly probable. So either Clint or Cindy & Tony & George is lying where she was that night. I believe if she has past which looks like she is and Casey did leave with Caylee then it happen on this night. So July 16 in the afternoon would have left enough fluids that were released by Caylee in that trunk. So it is very well possible she took Caylee to this area to dispose this beutiful child. I just can't believe she was able to hold off for 31 days before it was reported.

I remember Clint sounding unsure of the 15th, if she was actually there overnight or not. He was only sure that Caylee had never spent the night there.
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Which very well could have been done on the night of June 15th/morning of June 16th. I believe Caylee was there, too. The question is only when was she placed there? The phone pings are important to try to pinpoint this.
Just a general overview of KC's movements on the 15th/16th (June).

6/15: Morning - Anthony Household (until approximately 9am)
Late morning to afternoon - AL's area (until about 2:45pm)
3:35pm - Someone at the Anthony House calls KC (37 second call, but the ping information is blank)
Rest of afternoon/early evening - Still in AL's area.
5:00pm - KC calls Anthony house (3.5 miniute call from near AL's)
7:10pm - KC calls Anthony house (37 call from near AL's)
By 7:30pm KC is back at the Anthony house.
She is there the rest of the night.
6/16: Morning - KC is still "pinging" from the Anthony House.
4:00pm it appears KC starts driving to AL's area.
It seems she spends the night at AL's on the 16th.
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Has anyone found the call KC was supposed to get from Cindy on the 24th ?? (after 10AM)
Cindy said she told KC about GA reporting the shed break in/gas cans, which prompted KC to return them that afternoon.
There is a call at 3:15pm from CA's cell phone (4731) to KC that last for 5 minutes. Maybe this is the call? There are no earlier instances on the 24th of KC getting a call from CA or the A's home number.
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Do we know if AL house would ping Old Cheney HWY?
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Can someone tell me is the phone records show Casey at home on the 24th before George leaves for work, when he found the gas cans? Sorry haven't had anytime to look the information up myself.
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I don't know when GA left for work that morning. I can say that based on the cell phone logs Casey only used her phone twice that morning and they both "pinged" near AL's place.
Do you know if KC talked to Cindy on the 24th after 10AM...

Cindy says she told KC about GA reporting the g-can thefts, which prompted KC to return them.
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Do we know if AL house would ping Old Cheney HWY?
I've used the Old Cheney Hwy "ping" as being en route to AL's. I don't think she would ping that tower while stationary at AL's.
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I don't see how we can account for Caylee the night of June 15th on. There are no sightings of her anywhere that can be substantiated. With the A fam refusing to take LDTs, the lies we have already heard, and the the way they have misconstrued so much of this case...they are not credible witnesses, imo.

There must have been a huge fight for the neighbor to have mentioned it and according to LP...LA has information regarding this, too. This part is confusing if she did not spend the night with AL. Could she have spent the night in her car near the A home so the pings would be coming from there still?
I'm thinking she really was at home the night of the 15th, due to the pings.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:09 AM
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If its correct that the Lexus Dealer was GA place of employment then

6/24 - CA calls GA 11:20 am for 6 mins
CA calls GA 14:48 for 35 seconds
CA calls Cindy 14:49:08; 14:49:31; 14:49:47; 14:50:11 rough 2 min call
Cindy Calls CA 15:15:18 for 5 minutes
CA calls Cindy 17:25:28 for 10 minutes
Anthony home calls CA 19:05:06 4 seconds
CA call Anthony home 19:06:10 12 minutes

Lots of calls between them on 6/24
 

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