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Originally Posted by servingothers
Can each day be mapped out? Can a line be drawn like a graph starting at point A for the first and going on until the last? Could this be drawn up daily so that we can see where she was from the beginning of each day until there were no more calls?
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Sure, use google maps - here is an example of 6/23 - note the Satellite option and also the left hand side for the markers so you can follow the times.
You can also overlay other days.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en...48816&t=h&z=12
I think it might be better to dump all the data for 6/15-6/27 into coordinates and save as a map, then just start selecting the points that are unusual. May not result in anything, but all the oddities should stick out then. Yes, this is being worked on.
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10-01-2008, 02:43 PM
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Thank you to the poster who emailed me the excel spreadsheet of phone numbers. I've been adding to it and we now have 66 numbers to reference with her cell phone records. If anyone else has been collecting numbers that are perhaps not necessarily key players, please pm me and we can add together/compare.
Still looking for someone who has transferred the cell calls to an excell spreadsheet!
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I know one_hooah_wife posted a link to download software yesterday as she was exiting to give birth to her child (literally in labor while posting). I'm in the process of dowloading the free 7 day trial now and will see how easy it is to convert .pdf to Excel. I'll start with 6/15 and work forward for now.
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10-01-2008, 02:53 PM
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Long phone calls
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Originally Posted by HappyChic727
Dang 702 minutes on one call. What does that translate to? Over 10 hours? Could that be right? Continuing on . . . 839 on one call? 327 on another? Not sure if they are all to the same person and don't have the time to check but I bet some sleuther here will do just that.
What does all this chitter chatter mean? Can anyone really talk THAT much?
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Obviously. I remember seeing on one thread or in Tony's interview with LE that he would sometimes fall asleep with Casey talking. I remember when I was courting my husband that we stayed hours on the phone at night. Don't know what we talked about. Can't think that today we could possibly talk that much as we have trouble conversing over lunch.
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10-01-2008, 02:53 PM
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Welcome!
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Originally Posted by adc
Hi everyone. I'm a long time lurker but new to posting here. Many of you amaze me with your sleuthing abilities.
Was the pings from the airport on the 16th? If so, imo logic says she didn't dump the body on that day due to it wouldn't allow enough time for the decomp smell to set in. It makes more sense that the airport was used as a location to either kill Caylee or to move her body from the back seat to the trunk. I think the pings after the 18th are what they should be looking at.
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Sounds logical to me...
I think KC killed Caylee and many days afterwards relocated the decomposing body.Hence the reason for the smell...
and oh yes ... the use of checks and money not belonging to her.
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10-01-2008, 02:56 PM
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COOL
I hope all the sleuthers who are working hard to compile this stuff will continue to share - I sooooooo appreciate all that you guys are putting into it. Thanks.
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10-01-2008, 03:00 PM
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Does anyone know where I can get a complete list of all the relevant phone numbers? Anyone with a link?
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10-01-2008, 03:02 PM
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Has "chelsea harbour" area been searched? Is there alligators in there?
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10-01-2008, 03:05 PM
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Has "chelsea harbour" area been searched? Is there alligators in there?
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Never heard of it. Location?
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10-01-2008, 03:08 PM
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Never heard of it. Location?
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There is a cellphone tower at the end of Chelsea Harbour Drive. Ironically it is in the same towyard that the Pontiac was towed to.
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10-01-2008, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Celt1997
There is a cellphone tower at the end of Chelsea Harbour Drive. Ironically it is in the same towyard that the Pontiac was towed to.
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My bad...thought she was referring to an area of town.
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10-01-2008, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasLil
OK... I checked and the exact same cell tower was pinged when she ran out of gas on the 20th and called AL and when she texted AH on the 27th stating she was out of gas for the "second friday in a row".
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Originally Posted by mommya
How Bizarre.
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Is it the same tower she called tony from @ 1030AM on the 27th
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10-01-2008, 03:15 PM
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Is it the same tower she called tony from @ 1030AM on the 27th
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Yep... same tower both times.
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10-01-2008, 03:21 PM
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I know someone was looking for someone to place cell calls into Excel. If the calls are in .txt format I can have this for you in minutes. If it's in .pdf, it may take me awhile longer. I'm in IT and I need to process this kind of data daily. What's one more conversion?
Does anyone know of a place that we can post these Excel files so that anyone who wants a copy it's there?
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10-01-2008, 03:22 PM
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Toney picked her up around 11 AM Amscott
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Originally Posted by Celt1997
Just doing a quick look it appears the last call on the 26th pinged the tower near University & N. Semoran (Behind Purlieu Place, halfway between N. Semoran & Forsyth). Then the following towers were used on the 27th:
6/27 - 10:22am - Near Legion Way & N. Goldenrod
6/27 - 10:35am - Near Rte. 408 & S. Chicksaw (near Goldenrod, too)
6/27 - 11:09am - Near S. Goldenrod & Quail Pond Road
6/27 - 11:28am - Near Rte. 15 & Rte. 528 (at the end of Chelsea Harbour Drive)
Then there were a series of text messages that went backwards along the same towers:
11:31am - Goldenrod & Quail Pond
11:37am - Rte. 408 & Chicksaw
The last one I checked was 11:40am for a tower near East Colonial & N. Forsyth.
Remember, though, the towers are just general locations, not exact coordinates. I forget what the tower ranges are.
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Are these anywhere near the Amscott where Tony supposedly picked her up around 11 AM? I wonder if Tony's cell records were requested by LE and where were his pings on this date.
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10-01-2008, 03:35 PM
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George see's her leave.
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Which goes against GA saying he saw them leave around 1pm
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Maybe she pretended to leave. Didn't he say he left for work sometime after 2 PM. Maybe she came back after he left and made those calls to him and CA from their home------you know the "flurry".
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10-01-2008, 03:37 PM
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I know someone was looking for someone to place cell calls into Excel. If the calls are in .txt format I can have this for you in minutes. If it's in .pdf, it may take me awhile longer. I'm in IT and I need to process this kind of data daily. What's one more conversion?
Does anyone know of a place that we can post these Excel files so that anyone who wants a copy it's there?
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I currently have 6/16 through 6/18 in Excel. I'm using an OCR converter tool free trial from http://www.investintech.com/prod_downloadsa2e_pro.htm
If you know of a better way please advise. The OCR engine isn't very precise and the data needs a lot of clean up. Of course the PDF copies aren't clean so I can't fault the OCR engine.
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10-01-2008, 03:40 PM
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One interesting bit of information that I learned while following the SP trial, is that those who kill often have a strong urge to repeatedly go back to where they have hidden the body. SP did this several times while searches were ongoing in the Bay. So...For those of you looking at all the ping detail, don't automatically assume that pings from later dates don't mean anthing. If she repeatedly goes back to any particular location that isn't obviously a friend's house (AL's, the A's, etc...) it could very well be important!
Just my two cents.
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10-01-2008, 03:49 PM
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I know someone was looking for someone to place cell calls into Excel. If the calls are in .txt format I can have this for you in minutes. If it's in .pdf, it may take me awhile longer. I'm in IT and I need to process this kind of data daily. What's one more conversion?
Does anyone know of a place that we can post these Excel files so that anyone who wants a copy it's there?
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How bout the Jury room where all the other links to the documents are? could you put this excel spreadsheet there and if you do then would we be able to link to it and add to?
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10-01-2008, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasLil
I currently have 6/16 through 6/18 in Excel. I'm using an OCR converter tool free trial from http://www.investintech.com/prod_downloadsa2e_pro.htm
If you know of a better way please advise. The OCR engine isn't very precise and the data needs a lot of clean up. Of course the PDF copies aren't clean so I can't fault the OCR engine.
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Texas Lil, I would love it if you could email me the excel file and I could work on other dates to add to it. I'll pm you now with my email address.
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10-01-2008, 04:04 PM
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There is a cellphone tower at the end of Chelsea Harbour Drive. Ironically it is in the same towyard that the Pontiac was towed to.
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There is a large body of water there. Just off of Vista Park BLVD.. sorry I thought the name of it was Chelsea Harbour.
Has that area been searched?
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10-01-2008, 04:04 PM
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Casey smart enough.
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Originally Posted by SheRuns
Very clever thinking. Do you think she thought this out that much?!? Also, where are you finding the airport "pings" in the phone logs? I've been jumping back and forth between the 16th/17th and the 26th/27th so I may not have crossed the airport "ping" part yet.
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If this was something she planned, she was not smart. If she was planning to the extent they think Casey premeditated this, she surely would have known where she was going to put the body and definitely would not have transported it around for days in her vehicle. I think she is smart enough that if this was premeditated, that she would have had a better plan to dispose of the body and a better plan than Zanny did it.
Either this was an accident and she fabricated all these things about zanny or their is a "zanny" of some sorts and a "script" and something else going on.
Did she murder Caylee? Maybe but I think not.
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10-01-2008, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by servingothers
If this was something she planned, she was not smart. If she was planning to the extent they think Casey premeditated this, she surely would have known where she was going to put the body and definitely would not have transported it around for days in her vehicle. I think she is smart enough that if this was premeditated, that she would have had a better plan to dispose of the body and a better plan than Zanny did it.
Either this was an accident and she fabricated all these things about zanny or their is a "zanny" of some sorts and a "script" and something else going on.
Did she murder Caylee? Maybe but I think not.
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If it wasn't premeditated than how do we explain her searching missing children sites as early as March? How do we explain her googling ZG's name 3 days BEFORE Caylee disappeared?
This was so premeditated and I do believe that she drove around with her in her trunk at some point in time. She panicked but not because of an accident. She needed to hide Caylee better than she did the first time. The fact that the dogs hit in the backyard and also the trunk of the car tell us that she was moved.
For how long Caylee was in that trunk; I have no idea, but she transported her and moved her with the vehicle.
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10-01-2008, 04:23 PM
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If it wasn't premeditated than how do we explain her searching missing children sites as early as March? How do we explain her googling ZG's name 3 days BEFORE Caylee disappeared?
This was so premeditated and I do believe that she drove around with her in her trunk at some point in time. She panicked but not because of an accident. She needed to hide Caylee better than she did the first time. The fact that the dogs hit in the backyard and also the trunk of the car tell us that she was moved.
For how long Caylee was in that trunk; I have no idea, but she transported her and moved her with the vehicle.
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I agree. Also "premeditated" doesn't have to mean that she had pre-planned every detail of the crime including the disposal of the body. It simply means that her actions demonstrate that she had the intent to murder prior to carrying it out.
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10-01-2008, 04:41 PM
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Does anyone know where I can get a complete list of all the relevant phone numbers? Anyone with a link?
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If you go to the Jury room, the missing pages thread, post 47 Footballmom has a list of phone numbers and who they belong to.
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10-01-2008, 04:43 PM
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If you go to the Jury room, the missing pages thread, post 47 Footballmom has a list of phone numbers and who they belong to.
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I've actually added to that in excel. if you want a copy pm me with your email address and I'll send.
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