Nancy Grace - 10/27/08

[Themis]

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

I would be in that group.

Me too.

[armywife210]

Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

On what dates? The report shows that Caylee had been deceased for 2.6 days when she was removed from the car.

It could have just been that she didn't want her dad in there on the 24th because of the smell and she hadn't cleaned it at all yet (or was in the process of trying to).... there was a lot of.... geez I don't even know how to say this humanely.... just that she hadn't cleaned it out yet after disposing of Caylee.

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Originally Posted by Patty G

If you go back to the Greta interview where George talks about this "wedge" he so needed, and it's in his LE interview, I never heard that he ever got that wedge so he can change the tires on Cindy's car.

You're right, Patty G. And in his LE interview (I think) didn't we learn that KC shoved the gas cans at him as he was approaching the trunk? If that happened I can't imagine him getting the wedge thingy after that -- And I think I heard that it was bolted down or screwed down to the trunk, too -- Wasn't it? That makes it seem even more unlikely that he got it.

But wouldn't you think that if he smelled something it would make him want to look in the trunk even more?

[drumstick]

I respect Mark K. and I understand that he hasn't seen the search from a searcher's perspective. It's not a bloody crime scene.

The search teams were led by former military, le people and we looked for anything and everything that didn't fit into environment. From discarded litter to unusual land formations, we were told not to touch anything and mark it with marking tape we were given to use.

It's a simple process but it takes a lot of boots on the ground to cover the huge areas that they want searched.

I hope they get the record turn out they are anticipating.

[Chilly Willy]

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

True. It does unless she didn't kill her until the 21st. Hmmm...rethinking this one.

I strongly believe that whatever happened to Caylee happened on the 16th, sometime after George last saw her and before Casey arrived at Tony's apartment. That would have been middle of the day on the 16th, meaning that Caylee's body was removed from the car on the evening of the 19th or maybe early on the 20th. We Those are the pings we need to look at.

[MyTinkieGirl]

Originally Posted by Boston

What are the odds that a person who shares the same Mitocondrial DNA as Caylee has one of their hairs end up in KC's trunk?

Oh yeah......And that person also happened to be dead.

The odds are going to be something like 999 Trillion to 1

Hmmmm....well, George DID say that "the body that was in the trunk was not my grand daughter" !!! LOL LOL

It's amusing that NG didn't have a come back for Koby about just "WHO'S" dead body, if not Caylee, was Casey driving around with ???

[unsaid]

Originally Posted by Patty G

You have to listen to the Greta interview and then look at the LE interview!

That's what I did. I was suspicious after Greta. Then hearing his LE interview eliminated the suspicion I had about George going into the trunk. It made sense that he would have tricked Casey into letting him into the trunk since he had a hunch she had the gas cans in there.

That was enough for me, but I see how it could still raise suspicions.

[Themis]

Originally Posted by Patty G

I was one of them too!

Yes, you are in that group.

[momtective]

Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

Caylee being in the trunk on the 24th conflicts with the forensic reports showing 2.6 days of decomp.

Not if KC removed her body from the trunk, placed it in an air tight storage container then placed the container holding Caylee's body in the trunk. Were storage containers in the Anthony shed? Is that what she used the shovel for? To get to the storage container? I can't see KC moving a dead body period. But if she put Caylee in a container then she wouldn't have to touch her. I still think she rented a storage unit and that is where Caylee's body is.

[john's mom]

Speaking of the wedge, I don't think GA ever really needed it, I think he thought that she was the one who stole his 'f'ing gas cans', and was using the wedge as an excuse to look for his cans.

I never thought he really needed it....even when he told Greta, it just didn't sit right. I think his point was that she had the gas cans.

[Angel Who Cares]

Originally Posted by Pink Panther

What does this mean??? Please describe for those who can't watch!

I'll have to watch @ but what was said that it was highly possible that a tap r pin was put on the A's phone. Especially in cases like this...

[Leila]

Originally Posted by bookworm474

Why is the world did KC take so much time taking care of Caylee's remains especially since her remains just became more decomposed? All the rain might have been a problem for her and the time she just had to spend bar hopping, but this is weird to transport that child for days on end increasing the chance she could be pulled over or have an accident. Was there a thrill in that??? I still believe that she needed gas to burn the remains as last as the 30th.

When was Hurricane Fay? It was downgraded to a tropical storm, but dumped a record amount of rain in that area.........something like 27 inches in 24 hours.

[TxLady2]

Originally Posted by bookworm474

I would have to listen to NG again but I think the 8,000 were also people sending in money--that kind of support not just physical searchers. He might want to clear that issue up.

Well, of course they won't have that many show up. And there will be experienced team leaders to guide the volunteers, so that nothing will be destroyed or mishandled. I appreciate Mr. Klass's concerns... but this will not be just a bunch of ignorant people tromping around.. it will be fully organized. Tim will see to that.

[Patty G]

Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

On what dates? The report shows that Caylee had been deceased for 2.6 days when she was removed from the car.

Yes, the report shows 2.6 days of decomposition, but not the actual date of Caylee's demise. IMO, Caylee could have been placed elsewhere and then put in the car.

[SeriouslySearching]

If she killed her on the evening of the 15th...then 2.6 days would be very early am on the 18th when she was moved. If she killed her on the afternoon of the 16th...then 2.6 days would be on the evening of the 19th. Right? Isn't the 19th when she bought the pizza?

So maybe the body wasn't in the trunk on the 24th, but the smell and obvious other signs of her body still were present.

What day did Casey take off in Cindy's car and George say he chased her?

[RR0004]

Originally Posted by Chilly Willy

On what dates? The report shows that Caylee had been deceased for 2.6 days when she was removed from the car.

I have a question about this...I know that the test measured 2.6 days of decomposition, but does that mean the clock starts ticking at the moment of expiration...or could the body just have been decomposing for that amount of time while in the trunk? Sorry for not being clearer, but I have no scientific background.

[believe09]

Originally Posted by Patty G

IMO, Caylee was elsewhere, then in the trunk, and then out again.

Ditto.

[RR0004]

Originally Posted by TxLady2

I caught that too! That is interesting.... could be why Casey didn't want George near the car. I wonder why NG did not pick up on this... she just let that slip right by.

I always thought that was what was "implied", but I suppose it's what you read into it.

[jademonkey]

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

True. It does unless she didn't kill her until the 21st. Hmmm...rethinking this one.

But couldn't this mean that initially she laid Caylee in the trunk and then around the third day she decided to put her in some type of container to stop the leakage? I don't think she was alive past the 15/16th. We have Casey all over after that w/no Caylee in sight. Where would Caylee have been up to the 21st? Now you have me thinking.

[Leila]

Originally Posted by ExpectingUnicorns

LP made 3 important revelations tonight. George thinks Caylee was in the trunk on the 24th; 8,000 people are expected to help search and two cans of deodorant (that could have been used to mask the odor in the car) in a Target bag were found on one of KC's normal routes.

I think his heart in the right place but I'd sure feel better if I knew where he came up with these things!

I think the female body guard has told LP some things she saw or heard while in the Anthony home.

[Chilly Willy]

Originally Posted by Patty G

Yes, the report shows 2.6 days of decomposition, but not the actual date of Caylee's demise. IMO, Caylee could have been placed elsewhere and then put in the car.

The report says that Caylee had been deceased for 2.6 days when she was removed from the car, not that she'd been in the car for 2.6 days while deceased. In other words, when she was removed from the car, she'd been dead almost 3 days.

[RR0004]

Originally Posted by john's mom

Speaking of the wedge, I don't think GA ever really needed it, I think he thought that she was the one who stole his 'f'ing gas cans', and was using the wedge as an excuse to look for his cans.

I never thought he really needed it....even when he told Greta, it just didn't sit right. I think his point was that she had the gas cans.

He sure did "prettify" what actually happened.

[jennyb]

Originally Posted by unsaid

Yeah, I still haven't let go of my initial shock over the gas cans. I immediately thought she burned remains. If Casey's guilty of murder, then having burned the remains would probably make her feel pretty confident that a body wouldn't be found. Confident enough to keep up with the kidnapping story no matter how many ways it's debunked.

Observing KC's body language throughout this thing, I too believe she's cocky and sure the body will not be found. I feel certain about that, just having lived long enough to read human nature. There's something about her strut that convinces me of this.

So here's the question. Even if the remains were burned or (ugh) the body was fed to the alligators, could a careful search still come up with something? I think a burn site and ashes are a possibility but the alligators, I don't know. Maybe a bone left?

She just seems so sure she did a bang up job with the disposal and someone cleaned up after her to such an extent that she could indeed walk away from this.

[Theonly1]

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

I knew about the DP and the needle...but had not heard that FL still uses the electric chair!

We use lethal injection now but someone sentenced to death can still choose Old Sparky!

[MyTinkieGirl]

Originally Posted by jademonkey

But couldn't this mean that initially she laid Caylee in the trunk and then around the third day she decided to put her in some type of container to stop the leakage? I don't think she was alive past the 15/16th. We have Casey all over after that w/no Caylee in sight. Where would Caylee have been up to the 21st? Now you have me thinking.

Maybe on one of her shopping spree's at Target she got one of those large plastic bins with a cover on it. Some even have wheels on them for moving "heavier" items around....