Nancy Grace Headline News 29 Oct 2008

[awakewriter]

Re: The e-mail, the Anthonys' behavior

I think these people are under a tremendous amount of stress; they are praying and hoping desperately to find Caylee alive. They are lashing out at others. I think it's normal behavior for people living under these circumstances. IMO.

[BostonSu]

Originally Posted by unsaid

I think if Lee really believes Caylee is alive then he thinks he's keeping people from wasting their money supporting searches for a body. Again, if I thought my kid was alive, I'd tell my friends not to waste their money paying people who are searching for a dead body.

I'm sure LP would have mentioned if Lee also solicited them for money for other things. I don't believe that was the case.

Again though, he's sabotaging all TES searches by doing it not just the search for Caylee. Not to mention the fact that they find missing people ALIVE, too.

I could see maybe not endorsing TES, but to go out of your way to undermine it is something else.

[MOMto5]

Originally Posted by Janis396

Why does he care if people donate or not? Why should that bother him in the least what people do or don't donate to? Why doesn't he put that time and effort that he puts into sending out nasty emails into actually going and finding Caylee then, instead of trying to thwart people who are actually doing SOMETHING?? Haven't seen him flying around the country, chasing down any "alive" Caylee leads. So he can ZIP it as far as I'm concerned, anything he does or says now falls on (my) deaf ears.

Exactly! This family's shamelessness has no boundaries.

[Janis396]

Originally Posted by unsaid

Well....we haven't really seen Lee around much lately so can we really say that he's not doing something to find Caylee? I'm just sayin'...

With that family, they would make sure it was on every airwave in the country, they'd have back to back interviews scheduled, and have a film crew following their every move, IF they were actually out searching. They just aren't. Period.

[okiedokietoo]

Originally Posted by impatientredhead

Ahhh, but his opening statements will make it all clear to us. The only smart thing I have seen him do so far is not attempt to explain her actions until he has all the discovery evidence. I guess we can just assume right off that the 16th is not the day she realized her daughter was gone and there is a logical reason why that date was give to LE.

Other than saying this woman sitting here in front of you is not Casey Anthony, she is an imposter, and the real Casey Anthony is in fact missing with her daughter, I rest my case..... I cannot imagine how you explain away any of this.

JB might open with the "script" theory. You know the one where she had to do certain things for 30 days or something would happen to Caylee.
1)first night - go to BB with a young man, if you don't have a boyfriend, any man will do
2)rent murder, kidnap movies
3)

[unsaid]

Originally Posted by mydailyopinions

That is one thing that bothers me though, if they knew anything about Tim, they would know that he finds those who are alive too..
They never gave him a chance, they could have handed Tim something of Caylee's a long time ago, and at the least, Tim may could have picked up a scent.

I remember during the initial conflict between Cindy and Tim, Cindy was upset because she was thinking Tim would be doing the search for a live Caylee. She did not want to work with him when she realized he was not doing that type of search.

I'm not saying the Anthony's are right. I'm just not rushing to the judgment that they are guilty of anything for not wanting Tim to search for a dead Caylee. I think Lee actually thinks he's doing the people he sent the email to a service by telling them not to waste their money on a search.

AND...when people search and do not find anything, I don't think it makes people come to the conclusion that the person is then not dead. So I can see why someone who believed Caylee was alive would not want a search for a dead Caylee to go on. To them, there is no point. Not finding her doesn't help.

[Jolynna]

Originally Posted by unsaid

Not that I agree with Lee but I can see why he would do it. If I thought my kid was alive I wouldn't support a search for a dead body. That's all it is.

The A's say they believe a kidnapper took Caylee. So how would they know for sure she isn't lying out in the woods waiting to be brought home to rest?

If Caylee is no longer with us, how does the family know the body doesn't have some exculpatory evidence next to it???

The state of Florida says Caylee is gone. If it is possible to find her that needs to happen, irregardless of who the evidence incriminates.

[cyberborg]

Originally Posted by unsaid

Or the Anthony's really think she's alive like they've been saying all along.

But if Caylee is alive then why worry and why bother? -- risking making the family look bad/worse?

Focus your energy on finding Caylee.

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

Originally Posted by unsaid

I think if Lee really believes Caylee is alive then he thinks he's keeping people from wasting their money supporting searches for a body. Again, if I thought my kid was alive, I'd tell my friends not to waste their money paying people who are searching for a dead body.I'm sure LP would have mentioned if Lee also solicited them for money for other things. I don't believe that was the case.

If you believed your child was alive and your friends donated money to an organization that specializes in finding missing persons (dead and alive), would you not encourage them to give so that other families who didn't think their child was alive could benefit?

Would that not be the loving and caring thing to do for another family who was/is suffering also? The right thing to do?

Where is the compassion for others?

[unsaid]

Originally Posted by BostonSu

Again though, he's sabotaging all TES searches by doing it not just the search for Caylee. Not to mention the fact that they find missing people ALIVE, too.

I could see maybe not endorsing TES, but to go out of your way to undermine it is something else.

That's a good point. But a lot of people are donating because of the Caylee case and to support that search. I think that's what Lee was probably speaking to.

[skippi]

Originally Posted by distracted

I believe she is "narcisstic" enough to do this. She believes that she is so smart, that Caylee will never be found.

I sooo agree!!!

[Gram2]

Lee must have a heart the size of a p!ssant. This search isn't hurting the Anthony's, most likely it will bring resolution.







QUOTE=unsaid;2881100]Whoa...LP is saying Lee sent out an email saying don't send money to Equasearch. LP is trying to imply that Lee was then involved in the disposal of the body. Nancy, thankfully, shut him down on that point saying there's no reason to believe Lee was involved, just that Lee doesn't believe Caylee is deceased so sending money to search for a body would be pointless.[/quote]

[panthera]

Originally Posted by sweetmop

Personally , I think she would be stupid enough to do that. jmo though.

I do too, mainly because she's already proved herself stupid enough to think LE would believe the ZFG kidnapping story and thought she'd get away with those fraudulent purchases knowing video cameras are catching everything. She's not too bright! MOO

[Gaia713]

Originally Posted by awakewriter

Re: The e-mail, the Anthonys' behavior

I think these people are under a tremendous amount of stress; they are praying and hoping desperately to find Caylee alive. They are lashing out at others. I think it's normal behavior for people living under these circumstances. IMO.

I disagree. The Rocha family never acted like this. The Klaas family never acted like this. In fact, I can think of NO FAMILY who has ever acted like this.

[impatientredhead]

They don't want Tim finding additional evidence, period.
There is no other explanation. If you truly believe she is alive a search does no harm no matter where it is conducted. At this point they know Casey's best chances are a no body trial and the possibility of getting some of the forensics excluded from the trial. If you can convince the jury that there is a possiblity that Caylee is alive you can't convict her.

[marla]

Originally Posted by Boston

LP said it....

He then said that the FBI has a Theory why there were 2 crosses purchased

It's hard to understand what he's getting at some time - I think thats what he said

Yeah, I think that's what he said too ..

I don't put much into though, until LE confirms ..

[Janis396]

Originally Posted by impatientredhead

They don't want Tim finding additional evidence, period.
There is no other explanation. If you truly believe she is alive a search does no harm no matter where it is conducted. At this point they know Casey's best chances are a no body trial and the possibility of getting some of the forensics excluded from the trial. If you can convince the jury that there is a possiblity that Caylee is alive you can't convict her.

BINGO.

[Gaia713]

Originally Posted by unsaid

I remember during the initial conflict between Cindy and Tim, Cindy was upset because she was thinking Tim would be doing the search for a live Caylee. She did not want to work with him when she realized he was not doing that type of search.

I'm not saying the Anthony's are right. I'm just not rushing to the judgment that they are guilty of anything for not wanting Tim to search for a dead Caylee. I think Lee actually thinks he's doing the people he sent the email to a service by telling them not to waste their money on a search.

AND...when people search and do not find anything, I don't think it makes people come to the conclusion that the person is then not dead. So I can see why someone who believed Caylee was alive would not want a search for a dead Caylee to go on. To them, there is no point. Not finding her doesn't help.

If Cindy was so upset that Tim was not looking for a live Caylee, why did she refuse to give him an it em of Caylees so he COULD do a live search?

[unsaid]

Originally Posted by LiveLoveLaughLiza

If you believed your child was alive and your friends donated money to an organization that specializes in finding missing persons (dead and alive), would you not encourage them to give so that other families who didn't think their child was alive could benefit?

Would that not be the loving and caring thing to do for another family who was/is suffering also? The right thing to do?

Where is the compassion for others?

Honestly, if I thought my kid was alive I wouldn't be running around encouraging people to support TES for other families. Maybe later but not at that time. LOL I'd want my friends to support law enforcement and the Private Investigators that are actively looking for my child right then. When my kid is missing, I'm not doing charity work for an organization that I don't believe is going to help me find my child alive. After my kid is found, let my kid be the poster child for TES and I'll be the spokesperson and do a telethon or something. I don't think what Lee is doing is odd or meant to hurt other families. For once, it seems obvious that his actions are totally Caylee focused.

[MarleneM]

Originally Posted by sweetmop

I agree. This family has never been appreciative of any help given them or offered to them! At least I've never seen or heard it! I am always just dumbfounded by their actions and behaviors.

Yeah, I just got a flashback to August when the A's threw out a bunch of stuffed animals and toys sent from the public to Caylee at the A home. Sad.

[mydailyopinions]

Originally Posted by unsaid

I remember during the initial conflict between Cindy and Tim, Cindy was upset because she was thinking Tim would be doing the search for a live Caylee. She did not want to work with him when she realized he was not doing that type of search.

I'm not saying the Anthony's are right. I'm just not rushing to the judgment that they are guilty of anything for not wanting Tim to search for a dead Caylee. I think Lee actually thinks he's doing the people he sent the email to a service by telling them not to waste their money on a search.

AND...when people search and do not find anything, I don't think it makes people come to the conclusion that the person is then not dead. So I can see why someone who believed Caylee was alive would not want a search for a dead Caylee to go on. To them, there is no point. Not finding her doesn't help.

The one thing I do know to be a fact..
If Tim does find this baby, he will not turn his back on the Anthonys. He has been in their shoes, except he had no one. He will comfort them any way he can..
If they don't find Caylee, then the least that they can be appreciative of is that so many people in this world cared enough about Caylee that they gave their hard earned money to help with searches such as Keese, and Trenton.
If the Anthonys can't be appreciative of Caylee's name helping others who are missing, then IMHO they deserve whatever judgment the world puts on them.

[cyberborg]

Originally Posted by Janis396

Why does he care if people donate or not? Why should that bother him in the least what people do or don't donate to? Why doesn't he put that time and effort that he puts into sending out nasty emails into actually going and finding Caylee then, instead of trying to thwart people who are actually doing SOMETHING?? Haven't seen him flying around the country, chasing down any "alive" Caylee leads. So he can ZIP it as far as I'm concerned, anything he does or says now falls on (my) deaf ears.

[okiedokietoo]

Originally Posted by Gaia713

I disagree. The Rocha family never acted like this. The Klaas family never acted like this. In fact, I can think of NO FAMILY who has ever acted like this.

I totally agree with you. I really think the A's didn't think Caylee was gone in the beginning but I don't believe that anymore. IMO everything they have been doing and saying lately is to help KC's trial.

[unsaid]

Originally Posted by Gaia713

If Cindy was so upset that Tim was not looking for a live Caylee, why did she refuse to give him an it em of Caylees so he COULD do a live search?

My guess is because she wasn't convinced they were doing a live search. She probably thought they were just trying to pacify her so she'd shutup while they searched for a dead body like they planned.

[Janis396]

Originally Posted by unsaid

Honestly, if I thought my kid was alive I wouldn't be running around encouraging people to support TES for other families. Maybe later but not at that time. LOL I'd want my friends to support law enforcement and the Private Investigators that are actively looking for my child right then. When my kid is missing, I'm not doing charity work for an organization that I don't believe is going to help me find my child alive. After my kid is found, let my kid be the poster child for TES and I'll be the spokesperson and do a telethon or something. I don't think what Lee is doing is odd or meant to hurt other families. For once, it seems obvious that his actions are totally Caylee focused.

Wouldn't you just move forward with what YOU need and want to do to find your "live" child, and not worry if others are out looking for a live OR dead child? I mean, what harm is it to the A's for TES to go out and search? What are they SO upset/worried about, and focusing SO much time and attention to it? Because they KNOW the chances of them finding Caylee's body are very very good! It's that simple.