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Old 06-16-2011, 04:24 PM
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Please no flames, but the person referenced above is the person I have always considered to be so very much like Caylee in appearance, even his childhood photo.. There is AMPLE reason why he would/ could stay totally out of the picture, so to speak..
I think he is a good guy and didn't need Casey or her BS. I can't fault him or his family at all if a decision was reached between the two familes- maternal and paternal. Also, he would have probably seen Caylee and interacted with her somewhat due to the nature of " a friend of a friend" type frienships Casey had with his friends at a later time.

I realize he may not be involved in any way but something screams YES every time I view the photo of him and Caylee side by side..
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After looking at the side by side pic of JPC and Caylee I would have to agree they look alot alike. I think if the biodad was someone with money,power etc. you can best believe KC was not going to go quietly. She loves attention and would have wanted the child support checks. I think that she really doesn't know herself because she was getting it on with alot of people.IMO

Here is a link for you to look at the picture of JPC and there are also more guys on here that came in contact with KC at one point that have the possibility of being the father.

http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com...thonys-father/
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When I saw the picture of Ryan P. (we called him Porch Guy at first as he remained unidentified for a long time), I thought he must be the bio. Caylee resembles him imo.

Later KC slipped to LE and said that she hadn't seen Caylee's father's parents since she was a little girl. After that, Ryan pointed out that he and KC have known each other since they were little kids. Another factor is that I think he's a year or two younger than KC which is something CA brought up at one time.

For whatever reason, if it is him, he's not coming forward.
I caught that slip in the LE interview (I think at Universal) about the paternal grandparents and it made my ears perk up a little in regards to Ryan P. Plus, I too think they look A LOT alike.
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Who is JPC? I'm sorry, I cant remember those initials. Or can you link me a picture?
JPC= JP Chatt
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After looking at the side by side pic of JPC and Caylee I would have to agree they look alot alike. I think if the biodad was someone with money,power etc. you can best believe KC was not going to go quietly. She loves attention and would have wanted the child support checks. I think that she really doesn't know herself because she was getting it on with alot of people.IMO

Here is a link for you to look at the picture of JPC and there are also more guys on here that came in contact with KC at one point that have the possibility of being the father.

http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com...thonys-father/
OMG, I almost fell out of my chair! He looks exactly like Caylee!!!!! Same cheek bones and everything! So did LE ever try to test him or anything? I feel this is a very important part of the case.
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After looking at the side by side pic of JPC and Caylee I would have to agree they look alot alike. I think if the biodad was someone with money,power etc. you can best believe KC was not going to go quietly. She loves attention and would have wanted the child support checks. I think that she really doesn't know herself because she was getting it on with alot of people.IMO

Here is a link for you to look at the picture of JPC and there are also more guys on here that came in contact with KC at one point that have the possibility of being the father.

http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com...thonys-father/
IMO, IF any of this came to pass, we really DO NOT know what type of one- time take it or leave it offer may have been made to the Anthony family by the paternal family.. Much money AND INFLUENCE is present in the family referenced.
IF it was a cash basis, under the table one time payment from the paternal family should this family be the paternal family, then it would be very hard to prove.

From what I know about GA and CA, I believe they would have jumped on a cushy cash settlement offer and then wanted to raise Caylee just as they were doing. IMO.
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OMG, I almost fell out of my chair! He looks exactly like Caylee!!!!! Same cheek bones and everything! So did LE ever try to test him or anything? I feel this is a very important part of the case.
If he was ever tested, it is not public knowledge.
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Paternity/DNA question

Let's say the late EB is the father of Caylee. If we can't test his DNA, couldn't his siblings or parents have their DNA tested, and wouldn't there be a link to Casey? Wouldn't there be a percentage of a chance that the child is the grandchild or niece of those tested?

Can't DNA show "other" family relationships other than parents/children/siblings?

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IMO, IF any of this came to pass, we really DO NOT know what type of one- time take it or leave it offer may have been made to the Anthony family by the paternal family.. Much money AND INFLUENCE is present in the family referenced.
IF it was a cash basis, under the table one time payment from the paternal family should this family be the paternal family, then it would be very hard to prove.

From what I know about GA and CA, I believe they would have jumped on a cushy cash settlement offer and then wanted to raise Caylee just as they were doing. IMO.
I've thought about that too. In one jail visit KC told CA and GA that she had talked to psychologists and then quickly said "Don't worry I didn't say anything". That would also explain why CA never did anything when KC stole from her. At one time CA told LE that they had signed a contract with the father that the A's would have sole guardianship of Caylee. When LE talked to the A's attorney, he said he never drew up the contract.
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Important to remember here that EVERYONE in that family lies, and they admit it. None lie as thoroughly as Casey. IF SHE KNOWS who the father is, I doubt she had even told him. She had so many sexual partners, I really doubt she knows. Too bad though, because Caylee was such a wonderful, bright, innocent child.
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Let's say the late EB is the father of Caylee. Obviously, we can't test his DNA if he's deceased, but couldn't his siblings or parents have their DNA tested, and wouldn't there be a link to Casey? Wouldn't there be a percentage of a chance that the child is the grandchild or niece of those tested?

Can't DNA show "other" family relationships other than parents/children/siblings?
Yes, other family could be tested and paternity established from that with a high degree of certainty.
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I've thought about that too. In one jail visit KC told CA and GA that she had talked to psychologists and then quickly said "Don't worry I didn't say anything". That would also explain why CA never did anything when KC stole from her. At one time CA told LE that they had signed a contract with the father that the A's would have sole guardianship of Caylee. When LE talked to the A's attorney, he said he never drew up the contract.
IF that happened do you really think it would have stayed hiddened for the last 3 years? I mean ICA is throwing everyone under the bus and she would surely have said something about this. I can hear it already "CA and GA were paid off from biodad so they could raise Caylee and I never got any money so that's why I lied about my job and stole from my family and friends". If they really knew it would have came out by now.He would be under those wheels also. CA and GA tried protecting ICA and with all they have been through because of her they would have said something if they thought it would help ICA. IMO
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Let's say the late EB is the father of Caylee. Obviously, we can't test his DNA if he's deceased, but couldn't his siblings or parents have their DNA tested, and wouldn't there be a link to Casey?

Can't DNA show "other" family relationships other than parents/children/siblings?

Here's information regarding differing DNA testing protocols:




Within that information cited above is the fact that reverse profiling can be performed using the exemplars of blood related family members, ie Father & Mother to achieve a statistical % of the decedent and siblings to increase the statistical %.

For example if the CHILD in question had elephants @ loci 10, and zebras @ loci 11 and the child's maternal donor DID NOT have elephants or zebras at either loci BUT BOTH of the parents above and MOST of he Siblings ABOVE had elephants & zebras at the defined loci, then the % probability is elevated as to the decedent as a spermatozoa donor. Naturally, more than 2 loci are tested but this is a hypothetical.

SHORT ANSWER: Reverse DNA CAN be used to r/o a donor to link to Caylee.

If it was performed in this case, no RELEASED records exist, IIRC and since DNA testing is expensive( NO they do NOT used home paternity testing kits!) http://www.dnacenter.com/?utm_source...paign=Adcenter, somebody with a NEED for this information would have to pay.
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So....why don't they find Eric's family members, and do that?
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Let's say the late EB is the father of Caylee. Obviously, we can't test his DNA if he's deceased, but couldn't his siblings or parents have their DNA tested, and wouldn't there be a link to Casey? Wouldn't there be a percentage of a chance that the child is the grandchild or niece of those tested?

Can't DNA show "other" family relationships other than parents/children/siblings?
Yes, DNA from the father's family members could establish parentage.

But those family members have to be willing to take that test. Without some kind of legal subpoena, based on some kind of evidence to get a warrant to force them if they refuse, they don't have to come forward. Unless identifying the father is important to this case, or some legal case, there's no reason for a judge to sign a warrant out of some kind of curiosity.

Now imagine that the father or family of the father do not know that Caylee is their relation; imagine one or more might have a suspicion, but want nothing to do with this case, the Anthonys, and certainly not Casey or the media blitz they'd face if they came forward, even if it turned out they weren't related.

Since the child is dead and there's nothing they can do for her now, I would be surprised anyone would want that kind of notoriety. What's the upside for them?

Well, others probably can answer this better than I, but that's my thoughts on it.
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JPC didn't meet KC until 2007 so he isn't the father.
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I haven't read this entire thread, so please forgive me if someone has already mentioned this. I recall reading about JPC on other websites very early in the case. Plenty of folks thought that Caylee looked just like the guy and were convinced that he fathered the child. IIRC, this guy's family was very well-off, and I doubt very much that the Anthonys wouldn't have insisted on having JPC pay child support since his family obviously had the means to do so. Unless there was some under-the-table pay-off to get him off the hook for continued child support, I would exclude JPC as being Caylee's father. jmo
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Yes, DNA from the father's family members could establish parentage.

But those family members have to be willing to take that test. Without some kind of legal subpoena, based on some kind of evidence to get a warrant to force them if they refuse, they don't have to come forward. Unless identifying the father is important to this case, or some legal case, there's no reason for a judge to sign a warrant out of some kind of curiosity.

Now imagine that the father or family of the father do not know that Caylee is their relation; imagine one or more might have a suspicion, but want nothing to do with this case, the Anthonys, and certainly not Casey or the media blitz they'd face if they came forward, even if it turned out they weren't related.

Since the child is dead and there's nothing they can do for her now, I would be surprised anyone would want that kind of notoriety. What's the upside for them?

Well, others probably can answer this better than I, but that's my thoughts on it.
Probaby 9 out of 10 people, if they found out their son was the father of Caylee, wouldn't step forward for the reasons you listed.

There might be a few, though, who would like to give this little girl's life a degree of validation (and maybe that's not the best word to use, but my tired brain is failing me right now), by stepping up and saying, "yes, we are your family, too".

At any rate, it must not be that important to either side, since no one has requested any type of testing, aside from testing Lee, as far as I know.
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IF that happened do you really think it would have stayed hiddened for the last 3 years? I mean ICA is throwing everyone under the bus and she would surely have said something about this. I can hear it already "CA and GA were paid off from biodad so they could raise Caylee and I never got any money so that's why I lied about my job and stole from my family and friends". If they really knew it would have came out by now.He would be under those wheels also. CA and GA tried protecting ICA and with all they have been through because of her they would have said something if they thought it would help ICA. IMO
I agree it's far fetched but so are a lot of things that have happened in this case. The whole family lies so much anything is possible. Why did CA tell LE that they signed a contract with the bio dad? KC is on trial for murder not theft and she wants the jury to think she lied because of incest so telling about bio dad would defeat her defense. If they did sign a confidentiality contract for money they aren't going to tell. As KC said "Don't worry I didn't tell". I'm not necessarily applying this theory to JPC it could have been anyone, and it is just a theory. I also read that KC did not meet JPC until 2007 but then another friend said that was not correct. I think it's more likely that KC doesn't know. JMO
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I can't really see what the interest in this is. Even if the father could be identified, what good would it do??? It would just ruin the life of another innocent bystander in this whole sordid mess one ICA has created.
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JP says he met KC in the summer of 2007 in his depo on page 13....

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/80282073...-JP-Chatt-Depo
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Important to remember here that EVERYONE in that family lies, and they admit it. None lie as thoroughly as Casey. IF SHE KNOWS who the father is, I doubt she had even told him. She had so many sexual partners, I really doubt she knows. Too bad though, because Caylee was such a wonderful, bright, innocent child.
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From early on, I believed and still do that Casey absolutely knows who the father is. She may have had many sexual partners after she had Caylee, but I suspect not so many prior. And I certainly don't believe they were anonymous sexual partners. So yes...she knows. IMO. Now, whether the State knows is another matter, but I suspect they do. They know so much more than we will ever know. Again, MOO.
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Side by side of CMA and JPC -- unbelievable resemblence and he is alive. If you look at CMA as a tiny baby and pictures of JPC it is right there IMO. JPC supposedly couldn't stand KC, however, maybe it was one of those attractions/hate in the moment moment - IMO
He would have had to have lied in his depo, 'cause he didn't know KC when Caylee was born.
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I can't really see what the interest in this is. Even if the father could be identified, what good would it do??? It would just ruin the life of another innocent bystander in this whole sordid mess one ICA has created.
The only thing a lack of paternity in my mind solidifies is that Casey never intended to keep Caylee.
Lest we forget, when she had Caylee and really for the past 10 years in the media, there have been many stories of young girls who left their babies in trash cans, one recently threw her baby down an incinerator chute in NYC, they leave their babies at safe harbor locations, such as fire departments and hospitals (which many places are now "legalizing" and allowing the mothers to remain anonymous) and so on-because the practice is becoming more prevalent.
As I have written before, I think she read about those stories and figured she might get away with never being big enough for anyone to notice her weight gain. But that didn't happen, she did grow to be very visibly pregnant with an outty.
Next on her agenda to get rid of Caylee was asking Kio to take her. Also shows no care or responsibility for her daughter, that she would want to adopt her to a 19 year old single girl.
As she never wanted Caylee to begin with, it only makes sense that she would "get rid of her" sooner or later. Sick.
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Frank McKeever?
Hmmm...

Remember Patrick Bourgeois? The visitor to ICA in the cell?
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_...from-case.html

Wasn't Patrick the friend of Frank?

Also, didn't Casey list Frank McKeever under the name "scam" on her phone?

Also, is he not connected with people who are ALSO connected with Jose Baez (Richard Hornsby, this one is for you)?

Could this not also explain the Kid Finder's link? The rush to represent Casey by Baez?

I could go on and ON and ON at this point. But if anyone of you have seen Frank McKeever's picture, then you might JUST MIGHT draw your own conclusions about Caylee's parentage...JMO.

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