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Old 01-10-2009, 12:20 PM
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Thank you!

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Old 01-10-2009, 12:22 PM
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:22 PM
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I, too, find it crucial to get the layout worked up because I believe she was killed at the A home.

If it was by accidental drowning, one can see the relation of the computer room to the pool -- she could not observe the backyard at all.

By seeing the layout of their home, IMO, it's easy to see that she didn't kill Caylee in the evening or night of the 15th in such close quarters -- George would have noticed something wasn't right with No Caylee running around the house (eating, playing, getting dressed) the morning of June 16th if she was dead and hiding in the bedroom.

If their home was such that they had a huge finished basement where KC and Caylee lived or even a 2nd floor to themsleves, maybe we could leave the idea of KC killing Caylee in a fit of rage on the night of the 15th on the table because George probably wouldn't notice Caylee missing as easily.

To me, the floorplan tells me KC waited until George left for work and then did it.

KC would not have risked walking from her bedroom by GA on the couch with a dead child in her arms. She wouldn't have risked a dead toddler in her room all night with CA and GA so near by. What if CA decided to stop by and apologize for the fight in the morning?? What if she wanted to kiss Caylee goodbye?

Developing the floorplan is a crucial piece to this puzzle!
Glad the plan is of use to you. That is why I did it. For my own sake and others. It has helped me a lot. I think something like this should be used in court to clarify things for the jury. The prosecution probably has a highly paid draughtsman working on it? They should come on over to WS The info is public domain.
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:24 PM
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Have we figured out where the computer was yet? It looks like there was a desk in the living room, but I don't think it was a computer desk. I'm thinking it might have been in the front bedroom between Casey and Caylee's rooms. Is there any pictures of the computer? I'm sorry if you already have it figured out. I'm too new to see any of the uploaded plans, so I'm trying to draw my own floor plans from pictures. I would appreciate it if Hercule Poirot's latest plan was uploaded to a different site so I could see it.
When you get the "Power of sight" as it were, AL WILL BE REVEALED, MY SON. Be patient the plan answers your points.
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:27 PM
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I uploaded it to flickr, but I'm not sure if it is ok with mods if I post a link. Let's check


ETA: waiting for mod response!
Being as I am old and not Hip or whatever. What is flikr and what does it do for us?
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:30 PM
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lol

Flickr is a photo uploading program. The link I posted above goes directly to your floor plan you last posted, which I uploaded on my own flickr account- that way even new posters (who cannot view WS site uploaded images) can view it as well
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:34 PM
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Flickr is a photo uploading program. The link I posted above goes directly to your floor plan you last posted, which I uploaded on my own flickr account- that way even new posters (who cannot view WS site uploaded images) can view it as well
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I'm getting a bit behind with technology. Glad more people can view and get some benifit
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:43 PM
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Here is the latest floor plan - which I changed after finding the room sizes listed on the nearly identical house on that real estate link.

The Master Bedroom side of the house has been revised, and the computer room and hallway have been revised to more closely match Hercule Poirot's drawing. I added the lot boundary and street based on the sizes given on the tax map.

Hercule Poirot - PM me with any comments on this floor plan. I am not sure what your latest version of the garage is - mainly Washer & Dryer

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Old 01-10-2009, 12:58 PM
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I built the A's house in my Sims 2 game last night but was too tired to take the pictures and upload them all,etc. So, if anybody is still interested, I can do that now. I will just have to modify it a little with the changes that Steve2010 made. It's not perfect but I think it's pretty close. I can always go in game and make changes if necessary.

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Old 01-10-2009, 12:59 PM
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There is a picture of the backyard in the Media Thread, pg. 3, post #58. It's pic #26 of 40. It shows the right side of the yard when your back is against the house. The outer wall you would have to walk by to get to the pool looks to be sideboard. Upon closer examination, does anyone see the hinges that indicate some type of door? This would not be a door used to go in and out of the house but to access the heat pump, air condi, etc? It blends in, garden below. I just found it interesting as to a possible place to have hidden the body initially.
I don't see what you are getting at in that picture.

It is looking at the East corner of the house. Outdside of kitchen and sunroom. You would have to walk the length of the sunroom from there to get to the pool near the West corner of the house. Along that sunroom wall is a door. All this shown in the plan.
I could accept that there might be access to heat pump etc from the outside. That might be sittuated where I have shown "storage" in the house, so would be accessed via the wall behind the garage. I have not seen any photos showing that area at all.
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:05 PM
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Thanks cjcord. It's nice to see what everyone is talking about. My plan looks very similar, but I don't have a hallway from the bedrooms to the kitchen or dining room. Is there a picture that shows that or a similar house plan that has that hall? In this picture,



It looks like the bathroom door is across the hall from casey's room but maybe a little further down, like straight across from the computer room but it is pretty hard to tell.
And in this pic,

it looks like they are looking in the bathroom mirror and you can see a doorway that would be to the left if you were walking out of the bathroom I thought that would be Caylee's room. If it is, that wouldn't leave room for a hallway.
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:15 PM
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[quote=Steve2010;3151260]Here is the latest floor plan - which I changed after finding the room sizes listed on the nearly identical house on that real estate link.

The Master Bedroom side of the house has been revised, and the computer room and hallway have been revised to more closely match Hercule Poirot's drawing. I added the lot boundary and street based on the sizes given on the tax map.

Hercule Poirot - PM me with any comments on this floor plan. I am not sure what your latest version of the garage is - mainly Washer & Dryer

Moderators - please PM me if this is too big.

Steve2010 I have sent messages to you. Have you seen them?
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:25 PM
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Here is the latest floor plan - which I changed after finding the room sizes listed on the nearly identical house on that real estate link.

The Master Bedroom side of the house has been revised, and the computer room and hallway have been revised to more closely match Hercule Poirot's drawing. I added the lot boundary and street based on the sizes given on the tax map.

Hercule Poirot - PM me with any comments on this floor plan. I am not sure what your latest version of the garage is - mainly Washer & Dryer

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Can you move the bathroom in-between the computer room and Caylee's bedroom as this is where the bathroom would be for adjoining bedrooms. .

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...9&postcount=25 The house is pretty much set up like the floor plan in this link except this plan only has 3 bedrooms.
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:28 PM
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I thought I saw an outside vent for the dryer on one of the outside pics of the garage, near the door.
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:44 PM
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Can you move the bathroom in-between the computer room and Caylee's bedroom as this is where the bathroom would be for adjoining bedrooms. And the kitchen should be on the other side of the house so that they can go from the kitchen onto the screen-in patio.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...9&postcount=25 The house is pretty much set up like the floor plan in this link except this plan only has 3 bedrooms.
You are Joking right??

It's been a very busy 16 pages to get from the "any old example" to an accurate outline based on hundreds of photos, hours of video background?
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Here is the latest floor plan - which I changed after finding the room sizes listed on the nearly identical house on that real estate link.

The Master Bedroom side of the house has been revised, and the computer room and hallway have been revised to more closely match Hercule Poirot's drawing. I added the lot boundary and street based on the sizes given on the tax map.

Hercule Poirot - PM me with any comments on this floor plan. I am not sure what your latest version of the garage is - mainly Washer & Dryer

Moderators - please PM me if this is too big.

Steve2010 I have sent messages to you. Have you seen them?
I am 99% positive (absolutely) we determined the W/D are behind the service door, (outside wall has the dryer vent and washer overflow) the water heater we saw on the "tour" of the very similar house was near the door leading into the house and I believe the A's freezer is where the new diagram shows the w/d. I think it is a chest type that opens from the top rather than front door like most refridges.

PS the size is good as it is not ''pushing out'' the margins or whatever that is called.
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:47 PM
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I am 99% positive (absolutely) we determined the W/D are behind the service door, (outside wall has the dryer vent and washer overflow) the water heater we saw on the "tour" of the very similar house was near the door leading into the house and I believe the A's freezer is where the new diagram shows the w/d. I think it is a chest type that opens from the top rather than front door like most refridges.

PS the size is good as it is not ''pushing out'' the margins or whatever that is called.
Yes WE did. I am having problems communicating with Steve2010. He has not yet shown all the details we have worked out. The real latest version is post #359. Do you see anything on that you think should be changed?
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You are Joking right??

It's been a very busy 16 pages to get from the "any old example" to an accurate outline based on hundreds of photos, hours of video background?
hahahaha, I think you nailed it. the 3 bedroom house had a different ''open'' floor plan.

Maybe she was making a funny!!
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:56 PM
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Hercule Poirot & anyone else -

The Master bedroom was shown on the "identical house" for-sale listing to be 16 x 11. The kitchen was listed as 12 x 9. The living room was listed as 22 x 14. The dining room was listed as 10 x 9 - I have everything on my CAD drawing to be within inches of these numbers, along with the total square footage of the house.

The wall between the dining room & kitchen shows in a news video that shows Cindy sitting at the dining room table - and you can see the kitchen sink thru the opening into the kitchen - where does the L-shape counter show in a photo or video ?

The outside dimensions of the home are drawn based on the sizes shown on the tax map.

I have revised the bedroom / bath area again - which now matches the mirror reflection shown in that picture from post #386.

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You are Joking right??

It's been a very busy 16 pages to get from the "any old example" to an accurate outline based on hundreds of photos, hours of video background?

Nope, not joking as the bathroom is in-between the two bedroom. The kitchen is OK according to the real estate person that I wrote to and he said the kitchen is at the back of the right side of the house.

What ever one has done so far is TERRIFIC, I just added where the bathroom belongs. Eventually it will be perfect.

I cut and pasted the plan I found and the one produced here and I will try ans scan it to see how it comes out.
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WHo is saying that the bathroom is in-between the two bedrooms?

There is not any room for it there.

My CAD file is to scale, and I just don't see it belonging there.
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WHo is saying that the bathroom is in-between the two bedrooms?

There is not any room for it there.

My CAD file is to scale, and I just don't see it belonging there.
It me that said that. Look at this floor plan ...http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...9&postcount=25 I know this shows only 2 bedrooms on this side ....
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That location does not match the photo of the bathroom - the one with KC and Caylee looking in the mirror. The photo shows that you walk straight thru the bathroom door and face the mirror. The one shown in your linked plan is not like that.

And - as I mentioned before - there is not enough room for the bathroom to go between the two bedrooms. The overall length and width of the Anthony house in shown on their tax map - and that is what my computer drawing is based on.

Also- keep in mind that builders offer homes with alternate floor plans. They will still look the same on the outside - but the inside can vary by quite a bit.
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I don't think the bathroom belongs between the bedrooms -- I think it's right where Steve has it.
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