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Old 02-09-2009, 10:17 AM
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Talk about hypocritical!

Nancy Gibbs gets to weigh in, and in fact lists all the reasons people are disgusted with this scenario, but then chastises the American public for having an opinion about the Octo-Mom. PLEASE!

This is not about discrimination against single mothers. This is about common sense. And comparing Nadya to the Duggers, the Dilleys, or John and Kate is disingenuous. None of them chose to have 8 embryos implanted! The Duggers are lovingly open to new life that comes naturally to them (whether you think they should take a break and watch a movie or not) and the Dilleys and John and Kate had a statistically impossible conception while using fertility drugs following generally accepted guidelines to have one child.

While they may have gotten some nice perks by being on TV, none of them were auctioning their story and leaving their children 1 week post delivery to try and pay for it all. None of them were holding up a sperm donor who was forced into fatherhood against his will by some unbalanced gestating fanatic. None of them were living in filth or poverty and choosing to have yet more children.

Nancy Gibbs needs to pull the log out of her own eye before examining splinters in anyone else's.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:24 AM
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And what about her "plans to breastfeed"???

Looks like she is counting on others for that too, since reports say the octuplets are receiving donated breastmilk.

She's too busy with Ann Curry.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:29 AM
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Im confused...it says her boyfriend was the sperm donor for all 14 children...wasnt she married to someone else when she had at least the first one?...didnt she say after she had her first one she became depressed so she left her husband so he wouldnt have to endure her depression?
I keep thinking when she was married why didnt she use her husbands sperm? makes no since
and she states she will be able to support them once she has her masters?...ok how long is that going to take and what about now? even if she gets the 2 million she is seeking...thats not going to last long with 14 children and skyrocketing medical bills.
I dont think Dcf will step in unless there is a complaint filed....lets hope the mother will be the one to break this cycle and file the complaint......
I lied where the publicist said there was some issues between mother and daughter....Heck yes...Id have a huge problem with my daughter is she dumped 6 kids on me and had 8 more lol
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:31 AM
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This story gets worse and worse. I feel so sorry for the grandparents even though they have enabled Nadya to a degree. It isn't like you can just turn off 6 children from your life but help is needed for the children's future .Not in handouts to the mom but in some other venue. The mom will never be responsible as she has a screw loose somewhere. Then, another 8 babies that need care.

Honestly, I think adoption is the way to go even though it is impossible for one family to care for them all as a unit. If the children are brought up to know their other siblings then this could possibly work. I am just trying to think of something viable that could keep the children in safe and stable homes.
I love this idea, although I do not expect it to happen unless there is some kind of state level intervention because the children are in danger.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:44 AM
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Just saw a bit of the film footage on NBC...I did not hear all of the children's names, but at least one of the new babies shares the name of one of the Duggar children...Josiah... just another indication that she is patterning her behavior in many aspects.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:54 AM
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Im confused...it says her boyfriend was the sperm donor for all 14 children...wasnt she married to someone else when she had at least the first one?...didnt she say after she had her first one she became depressed so she left her husband so he wouldnt have to endure her depression?
I keep thinking when she was married why didnt she use her husbands sperm? makes no since
and she states she will be able to support them once she has her masters?...ok how long is that going to take and what about now? even if she gets the 2 million she is seeking...thats not going to last long with 14 children and skyrocketing medical bills.
I dont think Dcf will step in unless there is a complaint filed....lets hope the mother will be the one to break this cycle and file the complaint......
I lied where the publicist said there was some issues between mother and daughter....Heck yes...Id have a huge problem with my daughter is she dumped 6 kids on me and had 8 more lol
Honestly, I think she just can't keep her stories straight.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:11 AM
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Such a sad story.

The hospital will not release these babies until there is a detailed plan for care in place that will be verified by the hospital social workers.

I also see Child Protective Services stepping in to monitor ALL the children. moo
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:21 AM
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Such a sad story.

The hospital will not release these babies until there is a detailed plan for care in place that will be verified by the hospital social workers.

I also see Child Protective Services stepping in to monitor ALL the children. moo

Respectfully bolded portion, done by me.

That statement gives me some measure of comfort. Knowing that the hospital will not release these children until the hospital social workers can verify that these children will have a care.

Some measure though, I'm not completely comfortable.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:31 AM
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From what i have read this woman is staying in an undisclosed location (hotel). Her mother has had the other 6 children for 2 months. Why didn't she go to be with the other 6 as soon as she was released from the hospital? If she loves her children so much she should be there with them.

IMO....She is a con artist. She's no better than people who file numerous insurance claims. She is in it for the money no matter who it hurts. Sounds like she was a spoiled brat as a child and use to getting her way at the expense of her parents who allow it. JMO!!
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:37 AM
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From what i have read this woman is staying in an undisclosed location (hotel). Her mother has had the other 6 children for 2 months. Why didn't she go to be with the other 6 as soon as she was released from the hospital? If she loves her children so much she should be there with them.

IMO....She is a con artist. She's no better than people who file numerous insurance claims. She is in it for the money no matter who it hurts. Sounds like she was a spoiled brat as a child and use to getting her way at the expense of her parents who allow it. JMO!!

i think you have nadya's number..I also think she is a spoiled little brat with an entitlement attitude. I also think think she has no concept of what it is like to bring up a child. I think poor Grandma has been doing it. Oh there I go ranting agin over this young lady. Sorry,I will send myself to the basement..
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:42 AM
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i think you have nadya's number..I also think she is a spoiled little brat with an entitlement attitude. I also think think she has no concept of what it is like to bring up a child. I think poor Grandma has been doing it. Oh there I go ranting agin over this young lady. Sorry,I will send myself to the basement..
Well.....LOL....before you go....don't you think Nadya fits the description of Zanny the Nanny????? Maybe someone should do some sleuthing there as this woman seems to want to collect children by whatever means possible!
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:47 AM
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Well.....LOL....before you go....don't you think Nadya fits the description of Zanny the Nanny????? Maybe someone should do some sleuthing there as this woman seems to want to collect children by whatever means possible!
OH My God You are so right !! Somebody call JB and KC,we found Zanny the Nanny.
Sorry wrong thread !! Back to the basement !!
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:49 AM
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Westcoast IVF Fertility Clinic in Beverly HIlls. I understand the Dr. Michael Kamrava is a second tier doctor in terms of being well known in the area. This is from a high profile player in the field.

http://www.fertilityproregistry.com/...ast-ivf-clinic
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I'd like to see this video:
Also, video from 2006 that was aired Monday on KTLA-TV shows Dr. Michael Kamrava from the clinic treating Suleman and discussing the implantation process

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...n140816S94.DTL
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:06 PM
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OH My God You are so right !! Somebody call JB and KC,we found Zanny the Nanny.
Sorry wrong thread !! Back to the basement !!
Well...there were a number of California connections in there. The "sort of" boyfriend in the military there, LE and Leonard P. meeting with someone in California in the fall, the sighting that C and G went to check out around the time of the Larry King appearance. Who knows? I am JUST KIDDING, of course!
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:14 PM
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Well...there were a number of California connections in there. The "sort of" boyfriend in the military there, LE and Leonard P. meeting with someone in California in the fall, the sighting that C and G went to check out around the time of the Larry King appearance. Who knows? I am JUST KIDDING, of course!
You are too funny reann !! Although with that case one never know's. This will be the next twist !! Stay tuned!!
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I'd like to see this video:
Also, video from 2006 that was aired Monday on KTLA-TV shows Dr. Michael Kamrava from the clinic treating Suleman and discussing the implantation process

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...n140816S94.DTL
Is this the video:
http://www.ktla.com/news/
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:34 PM
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Thanks Nanny, I cannot watch videos here. Is it the Dr Kamrava doing the actual procedure? That is what I would like to see.

website info on West Coast fertility

http://www.beverlyhillsfertility.com/
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Thanks Nanny, I cannot watch videos here. Is it the Dr Kamrava doing the actual procedure? That is what I would like to see.

website info on West Coast fertility

http://www.beverlyhillsfertility.com/
Yes it's him. It does not show the full procedure though. He was the one that implanted the embryos for the twins.
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I have a stupid question... is autism "covered" by SSI/SSA as a qualifying medical condition? (If so, one of her older children could receive benefits?) Another stupid question... out of the octuplets, would doctors know now if there are long term conditions (cerebral palsy, etc..) that any of the babies could suffer from?

I would venture to guess that any money that Nadya receives would almost have to be put in trust because the medical bills that "whoever" is paying right now (medicade or whomever) would most definitely attach themselves to a big payout if she receives one? (Even with health insurance, there are many co-pays that roll in after the initial hospital bill is paid.)

I have to say that if Nadya truly loved children as much as she claims, she would have never thought of bringing 8 more into this world whilst seemingly neglecting the 6 she already has.

Has there been anything more on the "sperm donor"? I almost wish he would speak out (and maybe fight for custody?)... I would be so mad if I were him (if the stories about him asking she not use his sperm are true.)

I'm still at a loss for words in regards to the "only child syndrome" Nadya suffers/suffered from. Is that for real??? Sheesh, is she setting herself up for post tramatic stress disorder now?
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Not sure if this has been posted...

http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Oc...258&feedID=171

LOS ANGELES -- Before she became a single mother of 14 and was thrust into the national spotlight, octuplets' mom Nadya Suleman shared her story with KTLA.

In the fall of 2006, Suleman was expecting twins after undergoing in-vitro fertilization treatments at the West Coast IVF Clinic in Beverly Hills. KTLA featured Suleman and her doctor, Michael Kamrava, M.D.

During the interview, the expectant mother spoke openly about IVF, including how she was skeptical at first.

"I was slightly pessimistic but then I realized, well it worked. But at the same time I was keeping it a little covert, I didn't tell anyone right away and then it worked, I had my son," Suleman told KTLA.

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Just saw a bit of the film footage on NBC...I did not hear all of the children's names, but at least one of the new babies shares the name of one of the Duggar children...Josiah... just another indication that she is patterning her behavior in many aspects.
I read that all 8 babies have biblical names. Noah being one, I think.
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Thanks Nanny, I cannot watch videos here. Is it the Dr Kamrava doing the actual procedure? That is what I would like to see.

website info on West Coast fertility

http://www.beverlyhillsfertility.com/
Not doing the procedure, but talking to her while she was pg with the twins and with the dr. about the success of the procedure.

Interesting b/c it is an indictment against them both for using 6 (or 8) embryos at once. She specifically says that it worked "BAM the first time!" and the dr talks about why this type of "seeding" IVF is so successful. Since Nadya has managed to have such good results all 5 times, why would they feel the need to implant her with 6 at a time for this pregnancy?
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i think you have nadya's number..I also think she is a spoiled little brat with an entitlement attitude. I also think think she has no concept of what it is like to bring up a child. I think poor Grandma has been doing it. Oh there I go ranting agin over this young lady. Sorry,I will send myself to the basement..
Don't send yourself to the basement! I love your opinions! I've been ranting about this situation to my husband, needless to say he is THRILLED that I have another outlet here!
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I have a stupid question... is autism "covered" by SSI/SSA as a qualifying medical condition? (If so, one of her older children could receive benefits?) Another stupid question... out of the octuplets, would doctors know now if there are long term conditions (cerebral palsy, etc..) that any of the babies could suffer from?

I would venture to guess that any money that Nadya receives would almost have to be put in trust because the medical bills that "whoever" is paying right now (medicade or whomever) would most definitely attach themselves to a big payout if she receives one? (Even with health insurance, there are many co-pays that roll in after the initial hospital bill is paid.)

I have to say that if Nadya truly loved children as much as she claims, she would have never thought of bringing 8 more into this world whilst seemingly neglecting the 6 she already has.

Has there been anything more on the "sperm donor"? I almost wish he would speak out (and maybe fight for custody?)... I would be so mad if I were him (if the stories about him asking she not use his sperm are true.)

I'm still at a loss for words in regards to the "only child syndrome" Nadya suffers/suffered from. Is that for real??? Sheesh, is she setting herself up for post tramatic stress disorder now?

Oh my,I believe autism is covered under Social Security Disability. Oh goodness,please tell me this mom did not use any of that money for these procedures. I'm sorry just me having scarey thoughts out loud.
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