MO MO - Renee Pernice: Mom of 3, 35, Kansas City, 2 Jan 2009 - Part #2

cmofames · #1 01-05-2009, 01:46 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,476028,00.html

The Kansas City Star reports that Renee Pernice was last seen by her husband Friday morning, police said. They said there's no evidence of foul play. The couple has three children.

chicoliving · #2 01-05-2009, 03:42 PM

Discussion thread here in the missing/located discussion forum.

Just a reminder that this thread is for info and support only.

christine2448 · #3 02-06-2009, 08:54 PM

Please continue here.

Suzan · #4 02-08-2009, 10:31 AM

Oh the thread was moved to here.. seems we lose posters when the threads move.. interesting.

Glitterflits · #5 02-08-2009, 02:13 PM

Oh no, I hope we don't lose anyone!! We need to keep the discussion going to help find Renee and keep interest in her case. Is there a way to post a link to the original thread here so it is easier to access for reference and for new people joining to read what has already been posted before?

Glitterflits · #6 02-08-2009, 03:01 PM

Pernice Case Now Death Investigation
Prosecutor Says Foul Play Involved In Renee Pernice's Disappearance

POSTED: 11:22 am CST February 5, 2009

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The case of missing mother Renee Pernice is now a death investigation, according to the Clay County prosecutor.

Pernice, 35, was last seen on Jan. 2.

"Based on the weight of existing evidence, the absence of Renee trying to contact family members and the amount of time that has passed since she disappeared, I consider Renee Pernice's case as a death investigation," prosecutor Daniel White said in a news release on Thursday. "We believe foul play is involved."

Here is the link to the full story:
http://www.kmbc.com/news/18648711/detail.html

SeriouslySearching · #7 02-08-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Glitterflits

Oh no, I hope we don't lose anyone!! We need to keep the discussion going to help find Renee and keep interest in her case. Is there a way to post a link to the original thread here so it is easier to access for reference and for new people joining to read what has already been posted before?

If you just look at the bottom of the page, you will find the past threads plus Star Boomer's thread.

We aren't going to lose anyone. They didn't stop posting because the thread moved...they are probably busy as it is a weekend and there is no real news coming out right now.

Glitterflits · #8 02-08-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

If you just look at the bottom of the page, you will find the past threads plus Star Boomer's thread.

We aren't going to lose anyone. They didn't stop posting because the thread moved...they are probably busy as it is a weekend and there is no real news coming out right now.

Thank you for that information!

I should have noticed that!

SeriouslySearching · #9 02-08-2009, 03:25 PM

LOL It is a relatively new feature on here. I didn't realize it for awhile myself.

fabvab · #10 02-08-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitterflits

Oh no, I hope we don't lose anyone!! We need to keep the discussion going to help find Renee and keep interest in her case. Is there a way to post a link to the original thread here so it is easier to access for reference and for new people joining to read what has already been posted before?

I still come here each day and read and also hope to find new info/updates to this story. I haven't posted since it seems not much has been happening that is public info. Hopefully, the police know a lot more and are just waiting for Shon to make a mistake so they can arrest him. I am sure others are like me too in not really posting if nothing is happening.

JaneInOz · #11 02-08-2009, 10:00 PM

You know its the weirdest thing

I get google alerts for various news articles and so on

Today I got this

Quote:

Google News Alert for: renee pernice
Police, volunteers search for missing Northland mother
Kansas City Star - MO,USA
By GLENN E. RICE Dozens of volunteers, including Danny Russell, searched Monday for Renee Pernice. They searched an area bound by 68th Street to 60th Street ...
See all stories on this topic

But when I clicked in the link I got this

Quote:

Unfortunately the page you requested isn't available. This could be the result of expired content, a broken link, an outdated bookmark or a mistyped address. Please use the links on this page or click here to visit our home page.

Any thoughts ?

Glitterflits · #12 02-08-2009, 10:46 PM

JaneInOz, that is weird! I went to KansasCity.com and found the article in the archives. It was published 1/13/09. Strange that you would just now get the alert...I wish it had been current though. I would love to see another search for Renee happen.

INQUIRING MINDS · #13 02-09-2009, 12:15 PM

http://www.marshallnews.com/story/1500201.html

White Womans body found in Missouri River on Saturday. NO ID yet.
This could very well be Renee.

SeriouslySearching · #14 02-09-2009, 12:35 PM

Where the body was found is 117 miles/2 hours 7 mins by car from Independence, MO. If the body traveled by river, is it possible to have gone that far? I don't know the calculations by river, but it would be much further.

Does he have ties to people in that area?

Another possibility is Kara Kopetesky from Belton, MO altho...this sounds as if this body was dumped recently and was found somewhat intact. They came back with information quickly as to this being a white female and called it a body not skeletal remains.

nursebeeme · #15 02-09-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

Where the body was found is 117 miles/2 hours 7 mins by car from Independence, MO. If the body traveled by river, is it possible to have gone that far? I don't know the calculations by river, but it would be much further.

Does he have ties to people in that area?

SS: did some research on the river
~snip~The Missouri river flows between 3 and 7 mph, he says. While faster than most Ozark streams, which run just 2-3 mph, the current is hardly raging~snip~

http://www.ruralmissouri.org/04pages/04AugMuddy.html

Taking that a little bit further, if we calculate how many days she has been gone (around 38) times 24 hours...that is a total of 912 hours... and the river moves 3-7 miles per hour (much slower while she has been gone because we have had a lot of really cold weather since early January and the river was even iced over in some places). I do not know how to figure her weight into the equation..

INQUIRING MINDS · #16 02-09-2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

Where the body was found is 117 miles/2 hours 7 mins by car from Independence, MO. If the body traveled by river, is it possible to have gone that far? I don't know the calculations by river, but it would be much further.

Using the scale of miles for the river. This was less than 125 miles away from Independence. So the probability of it being her is high.

SeriouslySearching · #17 02-09-2009, 01:15 PM

Of course, he could have traveled to an area much closer to where the body was found to dump it in the river, too. It isn't that far.

Thanks for the information, NeeBee!~

dsntslp · #18 02-09-2009, 01:35 PM

Dana Bruce is also missing from that area.

dsntslp · #19 02-09-2009, 01:36 PM

http://www.finddanabruce.com/Home_Page.php

Luzianne · #20 02-09-2009, 01:46 PM

But isn't Marshall north of Kansas City? So wouldn't that be upstream rather than downstream from Kansas City? I really don't know which it would be. But like someone said, it's notthat far and he definitely could have dumped her somewhere else. I've wondered by the large gap of time since the phone was found at 12:01 a.m. on the 3rd and he was in the Hazmat unit at 4:26 a.m. on the 3rd. Obviously the phone was dumped before midnight, so where was he between when the phone was dumped and when he showed up at the Hazmat unit. Maybe he went on a road trip to dump the body.

EDIT - well I just found something on the internet that says the Missouri River flows east from Kansas City to St. Louis. So it does make sense that a body dumped in KC would go that direction.

SuziQ · #21 02-09-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dsntslp

http://www.finddanabruce.com/Home_Page.php

Thanks! FWIW, here is a link to Dana's case. I'm going to post the UID info over there also.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthr...ght=dana+bruce

SeriouslySearching · #22 02-09-2009, 02:10 PM

There have been a few bodies found in that river. I recall a couple after Kara went missing. Scary.

Glitterflits · #23 02-09-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching

There have been a few bodies found in that river. I recall a couple after Kara went missing. Scary.

Yes, the Missouri River has been a notorious dumping ground throughout the history of Kansas City. During the years that Organized Crime was big here, bodies were found along it all the time. I think that is why so many of us believe Renee could have been dumped in the river. We have heard about it happening many times. It is a treacherous river is some parts. It has a lot of undertows which could easily conceal a body (rather than the body floating and being visible) and transport it faster. A body dumped in the right area could be concealed for quite awhile and travel a good distance before being found. Hopefully an ID will be made soon.

Piglitsmum · #24 02-09-2009, 03:42 PM

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/ne...aspx?id=256991

Speculation here that it may have been 57 year old Lana Sandweiss of Liberty, Missouri. "Sandweiss went missing on November 26th 2008. Authorities believe she jumped off of the Highway 13 bridge near Lexington.

The Water Patrol reports that officers found Sandweiss' car running on the bridge with a suicide note inside".

I'm a long way away across the Atlantic, and I'm guessing this is a pretty big river - so if this is incorrect, I am very sorry...

Still thinking of Renee and her children every day...

dsntslp · #25 02-09-2009, 06:40 PM

Thankyou piglitsmum

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/ne...aspx?id=256991

UPDTATE: 7:30 p.m. Sunday

Authorities will begin comparing the victim's teeth with dental records of all missing white females from mid-Missouri Monday, according to Saline County Sheriff Wally George.

The woman's body was spotted by a commercial fisherman just before 2 p.m. Saturday floating near "Stump Island" on the Missouri River.

It's still unknown how long the body had been in the river or if authorities suspect foul play.

Original Story

A woman's body was found floating in the Missouri River in Howard County, shortly before 2:30 p.m. Saturday, Water Patrol officials have confirmed.

A passerby initially spotted the woman's body floating near Saline County and called for help, officials say. Right now the body is at the medical examiner's office.

At this it's not known who the woman was, or how long she had been in the river.

Missouri Water Patrol officials have directed all questions to the Saline County Sheriff's Department - but all they would confirm is that the body was that of an adult white female.