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02-21-2009, 12:50 PM
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If Everything Casey Said Was True... who would have to be lying?
If everything Casey said was true... who all would have to be lying/conspiring?
Clearly it isn't true. CLEARLY.
But since the defense doesn't seem to be changing their story, i'm curious as to who all would have to be lying to make it so that Casey wasn't.
I'll start...
"Zachary" 's dad -- about having a son.
Universal - about her employment there.
Sawgrass - about the apartment being vacant.
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02-21-2009, 12:51 PM
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can you amend your title to reflect the topic please? thank s
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02-21-2009, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruthIsOutThere
If everything Casey said was true... who all would have to be lying/conspiring?
Clearly it isn't true. CLEARLY.
But since the defense doesn't seem to be changing their story, i'm curious as to who all would have to be lying to make it so that Casey wasn't.
I'll start...
"Zachary" 's dad -- about having a son.
Universal - about her employment there.
Sawgrass - about the apartment being vacant.
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Ya know, I was just thinking about this very same thing this morning. If Casey was purposefully silent to protect her daughter and family, why hasn't she come out now and said who she believes took her daughter? Doesn't she want the "real"
kidnapper(s) to be punished for this heinous crime? Even if somehow she was partially responsible for the loss of her child, wouldn't she want it to be known there were others involved in poor Caylee's death? The TRUTH could set her free.
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02-21-2009, 01:14 PM
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Exactly.... I think that's going to be really hard for her at court. She's left herself pretty much no window of doubt, because the only story she'll tell is so obviously untrue.
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02-21-2009, 01:18 PM
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Who would have to be lying??
The entire state of Florida.
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02-21-2009, 01:22 PM
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02-21-2009, 01:22 PM
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Zenaida's two roommates, although since they are also fictional, I guess they couldn't really lie...
They certainly aren't forthcoming. lol.
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02-21-2009, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTruthIsOutThere
If everything Casey said was true... who all would have to be lying/conspiring?
Clearly it isn't true. CLEARLY.
But since the defense doesn't seem to be changing their story, i'm curious as to who all would have to be lying to make it so that Casey wasn't.
I'll start...
"Zachary" 's dad -- about having a son.
Universal - about her employment there.
Sawgrass - about the apartment being vacant.
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Actually,the list would be redundant because all we would be doing is listing everything/everyone we know about this case and say they were lying or conspiring.Everything that Casey said was a lie. Good luck to the defense team,they have a hard job ahead of them,if they want to try to make Caseys' story work.
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02-21-2009, 01:38 PM
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Exactly.... I think that's going to be really hard for her at court. She's left herself pretty much no window of doubt, because the only story she'll tell is so obviously untrue.
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...and not even consistent with what her own attorney and parents have said.
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02-21-2009, 01:51 PM
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Ya know, I was just thinking about this very same thing this morning. If Casey was purposefully silent to protect her daughter and family, why hasn't she come out now and said who she believes took her daughter? Doesn't she want the "real"
kidnapper(s) to be punished for this heinous crime? Even if somehow she was partially responsible for the loss of her child, wouldn't she want it to be known there were others involved in poor Caylee's death? The TRUTH could set her free.
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She has already told JB the "truth". He will present it brilliantly at the trial in a true"Perry Mason moment". Zanny, who has already been located and subpoenaed, is seated in the courtroom. JB spins around, points his finger at her and says, "And, here is the real killer!" Zanny breaks down and confesses everything. Everyone who doubted KC's innocence will write letters of apology and she will publish them in a book, making millions...all donated to finding missing children. Tragically, while shopping at Target for lingerie and cheezy-poofs, she will slip on a cherry, hit her head and fall into a coma where she will stay until CA pulls the plug a day later.
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02-21-2009, 01:52 PM
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Actually,the list would be redundant because all we would be doing is listing everything/everyone we know about this case and say they were lying or conspiring.Everything that Casey said was a lie. Good luck to the defense team,they have a hard job ahead of them,if they want to try to make Caseys' story work.
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I agree that's why I don't think they are going to stick with her story. I think theire defense is simply going to be punching holes in the prosecution's evidence.
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02-21-2009, 02:32 PM
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She has already told JB the "truth". He will present it brilliantly at the trial in a true"Perry Mason moment". Zanny, who has already been located and subpoenaed, is seated in the courtroom. JB spins around, points his finger at her and says, "And, here is the real killer!" Zanny breaks down and confesses everything. Everyone who doubted KC's innocence will write letters of apology and she will publish them in a book, making millions...all donated to finding missing children. Tragically, while shopping at Target for lingerie and cheezy-poofs, she will slip on a cherry, hit her head and fall into a coma where she will stay until CA pulls the plug a day later.
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02-21-2009, 02:57 PM
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The girl is mentally ill. No one with sound mind can murder their child spinning as many lies as she has told and "believe" she will get away with. Her lies may be true to her and quite clearly she has serious mental problems. There is no truth. The truth is what she has "told". She sees no difference.
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02-21-2009, 03:16 PM
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If everything Casey said is true, then who would be lying?
I'm not even going to play that game.
'Scuse me, but I need to get to my job at Universal after I get a few tattoos on my butt.
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02-21-2009, 03:50 PM
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If everything Casey said is true, then who would be lying?
I'm not even going to play that game.
'Scuse me, but I need to get to my job at Universal after I get a few tattoos on my butt.
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LMAO! Don't forget to stop by Fusion. You never know...Zanny may be there!
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02-21-2009, 03:54 PM
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...and not even consistent with what her own attorney and parents have said.
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uh huh.. her parents. I don't believe a word Cindy says.
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02-21-2009, 03:55 PM
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The girl is mentally ill. No one with sound mind can murder their child spinning as many lies as she has told and "believe" she will get away with. Her lies may be true to her and quite clearly she has serious mental problems. There is no truth. The truth is what she has "told". She sees no difference.
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Sadly, though I agree she has some major issues, she does know the difference.
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02-21-2009, 03:57 PM
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If everything Casey said is true, then who would be lying?
John Allen, Yuri, Nick Savage, and all other Law Enforcement officials involved in the investigation, including the FBI; Scientists at the Body Farm; FBI forensics specialists at Quantico. And that's just for a start.
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02-21-2009, 04:00 PM
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If everything Casey said was true... who all would have to be lying/conspiring?
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02-21-2009, 04:16 PM
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found this very interesting
Truth, Lies and Self-Deception
By Dr. Stephen A. Diamond, Ph.D. on November 30, 2008 - 8:01pm in Evil Deeds
Folie a deux is an idiomatic French expression meaning "craziness of two." This fascinating syndrome is referred to diagnostically in the American Psychiatric Association's DSM-IV-TR as Shared Psychotic Disorder, one of several types of psychosis. How common is this condition, what causes it, and what can it teach us about the nature and perils of self-deception?
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02-21-2009, 04:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTruthIsOutThere
If everything Casey said was true... who all would have to be lying/conspiring?
Clearly it isn't true. CLEARLY.
But since the defense doesn't seem to be changing their story, i'm curious as to who all would have to be lying to make it so that Casey wasn't.
I'll start...
"Zachary" 's dad -- about having a son.
Universal - about her employment there.
Sawgrass - about the apartment being vacant.
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thats funny
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Jose Baez: “I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand. That explains it.’”
Jose Baez to da judge :
".....that type of testing is unique. we requested that they be allowed to test items and that of course was objected to by the state and and uh the state uh granted or sustained their objection, denied our opportunity to have him test these items due to a very specialized field, subfield, of dna that he is one of the pioneers of uh in the alternative of we were granted the ability to test certain items by an outside lab...."
"society does not consist of individuals, but expresses the sum of interrelations, the relations within which these individuals stand.” .............Karl Marx
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02-21-2009, 04:39 PM
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The cell phone company...they somehow were able to remove Zanny's phone number OFF of Casey's phone (the physical phone ITSELF) & also Zanny's actual number completely off of any of her phone records. They did this, of course, to FRAME Casey. You know...because she didn't pay her phone bill on time.
Also, they were able to remove that "private name/private number" call that came in the day before Casey was taken into the police station for questioning. You know, the time Caylee called her and someone took the phone away from her.
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02-21-2009, 04:40 PM
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uh huh.. her parents. I don't believe a word Cindy says.
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uh, you , apparently have not made allowances for the extreme pressure cindy is under because of her job as a nurse of decomposition. The most trying aspect of that occupation is that she is apparently the only person in the world to hold that position.
so, you can imagine.
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Jose Baez: “I sincerely believe that when we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand. That explains it.’”
Jose Baez to da judge :
".....that type of testing is unique. we requested that they be allowed to test items and that of course was objected to by the state and and uh the state uh granted or sustained their objection, denied our opportunity to have him test these items due to a very specialized field, subfield, of dna that he is one of the pioneers of uh in the alternative of we were granted the ability to test certain items by an outside lab...."
"society does not consist of individuals, but expresses the sum of interrelations, the relations within which these individuals stand.” .............Karl Marx
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02-21-2009, 04:41 PM
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This is great- Thanks so much!! Could you post it over on the psych thread too please?!
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uh, you , apparently have not made allowances for the extreme pressure cindy is under because of her job as a nurse of decomposition. The most trying aspect of that occupation is that she is apparently the only person in the world to hold that position.
so, you can imagine.
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LOL, well she is afterall - a DECOMP nurse, right? Didn't Cindy actually use that term in the very beginning?
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