Forensic Astrology - Haliegh Cummings #3 - Page 11

Asker · #**251** 03-11-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Salem

Reading Asker's post, Fifth's response and going back to read Tuba's post - I'm thinking: Misti lied about being home and Ron knows it. The inability to make a "responsible decision" during the 911 call makes me think Misti told Ron she had stepped out. AND this is PURE speculation/theorizing here - Ron covered for her because of the custody issues.

Of course many other things could be happening but it is apparent not only from the charts but from body language and 911 call analysis that Misti is lying, either directly or by omission. RC's proposal is a stunner and I put merit in the finding in the chart that there is a "secret agenda."

Does anyone think it would be worthwhile to do a chart on the presser yesterday? Maybe compared to Haleigh's natal and the 911 call? I think I could run the chart using one of the free astro programs, but I would have NO idea what the chart told me

Salem

Since you are focusing on Misty's actions and behaviors I don't think a chart for the presser will shed any light because Misty was not featured at the presser...only Ron and Crystal spoke.

However, since it doesn't cost anything to run a chart and read it and also you never can be sure without looking what a chart has to offer, I'll look at the chart for the presser if you can provide an accurate time for the start of it.

Salem · #**252** 03-11-2009, 09:36 PM

Asker - thank you. I'll go look for a time right now. I'm not really focusing on Misti's behavior, it is just that at this point, she is the only I feel certain about. I do feel certain that she is lying - about exactly what, I don't know. As for RC - I'm just not sure what is going on with him. I'm not sure if he knows something, or he thinks Misti knows something and he wants to get it out of her, or if he thinks he knows who took Haleigh and where she might be and is just waiting for an opportunity to go get her without LE? I don't know........

Enough of that - let me see if I can find a time for the presser yesterday.

Salem

Salem · #**253** 03-11-2009, 09:50 PM

According to this article - the presser was scheduled for 2:00 p.m. FL time, in Putnam County. http://www.gainesville.com/article/2...uled-for-2-p-m

I'm thinking they were pretty much on schedule based on the times of follow up articles. I'll see if I can find one

Salem

ETA: According to our time stamped documents, this article was created at about 2:38 EST, so they must have started right about 2:00 p.m.

Parents Make Emotional Plea for Haleigh's Return
Created: 3/10/2009 2:38:10 PM
Updated: 3/10/2009 6:01:46 PM
<snipped>
SATSUMA, FL -- Haleigh Cummings' parents had to fight through tears Tuesday afternoon as they made yet another plea for the return of their missing 5-year-old.
At a news conference hosted by the Justice Coalition, Ronald Cummings told his daughter, "You'll always be daddy's little girl; I love you." He then said, "Please, if you have my daughter, bring her home."
Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, echoed that. "Bring her home, please," she said, crying.
Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy, who is heading up the search for Haleigh, thanked the family and the community for their patience and cooperation.
Following the news conference, a local musician sang a song and people released balloons into the air.

Thanks Asker!

tfrohning · #**254** 03-12-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulscape

Hello Money Girl,

#1 RSO Suspect - Donald Lee S.

Quoting myself:

To above list of RSO suspects, I will add RSO S., who, among other things, has natal PLUTO smack exact on little Haleigh's natal SUN at 24 Leo. I don't even want to think about what may have happened to her if this POS had gotten his hands on her......

I would like to remind everyone once again, despite the disturbing
connections, we cannot be certain an RSO is the perp, for it could have been someone operating under the radar screen and not on the Registry.

Thanks,
Soulscape

William Martin C , when i look up in rso file he did not have update address.

pittsburghgirl · #**255** 03-12-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulscape

(Respectfully snipped for relevancy)
I gave RSO Chad Reynolds's chart another look. Unfortunately, like many other of the RSO charts, his show disturbing connections to Haleigh's natal chart. However, when I place this chart in a tri-wheel showing Haleigh's natal as Inner, Reynolds's natal (Sunrise, Ocala, FL) as Middle, and either the LAST SEEN BY G-GMA or the 911 Call charts as Outer, it just doesn't "click" into place to the degree other RSO charts do.

Therefore, while I won't discount him as the potential perp, he is not at the top of my list.

Soulscape, a question: Is it possible that the RSO have disturbing connections to Haleigh's natal chart because 1) RSOs have significant things in common in their makeup that manifest astrologically; and 2) Haleigh's natal chart shows that her own path crosses an RSO?

Not an astrologer myself, but very interested in your work. Thanks for posting your insights here.

LaLaw2000 · #**256** 03-12-2009, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Salem

Asker - thank you. I'll go look for a time right now. I'm not really focusing on Misti's behavior, it is just that at this point, she is the only I feel certain about. I do feel certain that she is lying - about exactly what, I don't know. As for RC - I'm just not sure what is going on with him. I'm not sure if he knows something, or he thinks Misti knows something and he wants to get it out of her, or if he thinks he knows who took Haleigh and where she might be and is just waiting for an opportunity to go get her without LE? I don't know........

Enough of that - let me see if I can find a time for the presser yesterday.

Salem

Salem, I have read some, but not all, of this forum. I have bolded most of your above post.

I would like to ask you if you feel there is any way that Haleigh's disappearance is a hoax or planned event?

I just have this gut feeling that both Misty and Ronald know where Haleigh is. Could Haleigh possibly be in Arizona? The Kim Savage that had set up a website very early on is from Arizona. She was asking for donations 'for the family' and there was even a news article about her site being a scam. I saw her website early on and she really did have quite a few pics of Haleigh that came out later. I feel she has a connection with one of the families.

Now the 'plan' has not worked out as intended. Could Haleigh have been in Arizona and has been moved now that Kim Savage' website was declared a scam? The website has been cleaned up now and even tells you to call authorities if you have seen Haleigh.

Do you get the feeling that Haleigh could be with another little girl approximately the same age such as the one that Haleigh is pictured running on a beach with?

I know I sound absolutely crazy, but I have such a strong feeling about this. Is there any way that this scenario would fit in with any of the charts? Thanks so much!

****Soulscape, could you comment on this also? Thanks so much!

Jersey*Girl · #**257** 03-12-2009, 10:57 AM

Good morning everyone. Soulscape, Housemouse, or any other Astro that may have an idea with charts: Please see this link from the Friends Family & Locals thread - http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...0&postcount=45
Tfrohnig posted it. It says specifically that the child wasn't sexually assaulted, though. It made me think of something, and I sort of recall that Housemouse might have said something about a repeat offender - please forgive me if I remember incorrectly. My question to you all is this - Could this be a repeat offender or serial killer? Or maybe somebody that started out smaller but has moved onto bigger and badder things? Would the charts suggest something like this scenario? Please advise, this has me really creeped out and thinking of so much more now. Thanks so much.

Here's the official link to the article: http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Content/...Doughtery.aspx

Victim: Amanda Mandy Doughtery
White Female, 5

Now I feel as though I should post this: I believe Danielle Van Dam's murder was a copycat of Amanda's murder. Please see this link:
http://www.unposted.com/amanda_dougherty.shtml

I'm am starting to lean towards something serial. What is your take on it all?

salvarenga · #**258** 03-12-2009, 11:03 AM

[quote=Asker;3442815]snipped for relevance...Like I said, I read the chart differently and do not see evidence of an outsider coming in the home in that chart. The facts as currently known back that part of my reading up. LE has said that they failed to find evidence left behind (whether DNA evidence or any other forensic evidence) of an outsider being in the home that night. LE has also said they found no evidence of forced entry. [quote]

Can you please provide a link as to where LE stated, "that they failed to find evidence left behind (whether DNA evidence or any other forensic evidence) of an outsider being in the home that night."? I cannot find anything that backs that statement up.

FifthEssence · #**259** 03-12-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jersey*Girl

snipped: My question to you all is this - Could this be a repeat offender or serial killer? Or maybe somebody that started out smaller but has moved onto bigger and badder things? Would the charts suggest something like this scenario? Please advise, this has me really creeped out and thinking of so much more now. Thanks so much.

It appears, whoever is 'directly' responsible for her disappearance is not a 'stranger' to R & M. Whoever it is, is somehow related to associates, friends, friends of friends, someone known to the family/extended family of R & M.

LiveLaughLuv · #**260** 03-12-2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salem

Asker - thank you. I'll go look for a time right now. I'm not really focusing on Misti's behavior, it is just that at this point, she is the only I feel certain about. I do feel certain that she is lying - about exactly what, I don't know. As for RC - I'm just not sure what is going on with him. I'm not sure if he knows something, or he thinks Misti knows something and he wants to get it out of her, or if he thinks he knows who took Haleigh and where she might be and is just waiting for an opportunity to go get her without LE? I don't know........

Enough of that - let me see if I can find a time for the presser yesterday.

Salem

The presser took place at 2pm..

Jersey*Girl · #**261** 03-12-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FifthEssence

It appears, whoever is 'directly' responsible for her disappearance is not a 'stranger' to R & M. Whoever it is, is somehow related to associates, friends, friends of friends, someone known to the family/extended family of R & M.

Thanks so much Fifth. The reason I questioned it is b/c the authorities said the same thing in all of these cases. Lolype reminded me of Trenton Duckett. Now there's another update that Tfrohning posted:
I also found another case a Coral Fullwood 6 year old missing from her home. last seem at 2 am. in 2006 found murder 2 block from her home Catabash.

very interesting pert was caught go to link
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2008/...coralrose-ful/

Coralrose has a website that also has prayer for Haleigh
http://www.coralrosefullwood.com/

This is all just making me wonder... Thank you, Astro's, for all that you do.

Salem · #**262** 03-12-2009, 12:15 PM

Respectfully snipped for length ~

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaLaw2000

I would like to ask you if you feel there is any way that Haleigh's disappearance is a hoax or planned event?

I just have this gut feeling that both Misty and Ronald know where Haleigh is.

Do you get the feeling that Haleigh could be with another little girl approximately the same age such as the one that Haleigh is pictured running on a beach with?

I know I sound absolutely crazy, but I have such a strong feeling about this. Is there any way that this scenario would fit in with any of the charts? Thanks so much!

****Soulscape, could you comment on this also? Thanks so much!

Hi LaLaw2000 - I understand about those "feelings." I get them sometimes myself. Intuition can be such a good thing. In this case, NO I do not think this is a scam. I don't know who KSavage is, I have not followed that part of the discussion on Haleigh so don't have much insight there.

I really believe the charts here are very accurate. Understanding that they can not predict what will happen, they do give us a lot of information on what has happened. The charts and my intuition tell me Haleigh was taken. And to back that up I look at all the players. There is no doubt in my mind that Misti is holding back or deliberately misleading in the the information she has given to LE. What I have not been able to get clear is how much of that RC might know about? The grandparents are genuinely heartbroken, both grandmothers and grandfathers. I believe both RC and CS are genuinely heartbroken and they want Haleigh home. I do not believe that RC or CS would concoct such a scheme and hurt their parents in such a devastating manner. I just don't see that happening. I could be wrong - but in this case I don't think I am. Both RC and CS have supportive, loving parents. They may live a hard life, but it is evident their folks love them.

As Fifth Essence pointed out a few posts above this one - the charts and the evidence as we know it right now, strongly suggest that Haleigh was taken by someone familar with the family and the home. How familar, I don't know, but definitely familar enough to know the back screen door is creaky (I'm not sure I believe the "bricked" story), where the kitchen light was, where the children were in the house, etc.

Salem

Soulscape · #**263** 03-12-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tfrohning

William Martin C , when i look up in rso file he did not have update address.

Hello Tfrohning,

Correction: I have birth data for the person to whom you refer in your above quote, and, to be depressingly repetitive, there are "disturbing" connections between his natal chart (relocated to Satsuma and cast for Sunrise) and Haleigh's. However, the Event Charts do not seem to "trigger" his chart against Haleigh's to the degree where I would put him on the "Short List."

Regarding RSOs in general, I have been informed that the Mods are frowning upon discussions/accusations until/unless one (or more) of them are "fingered" by LE as POIs or suspects. Therefore, I will refrain from discussing RSOs by name for the time being.

Thanks,
Soulscape

Soulscape · #**264** 03-12-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pittsburghgirl

Soulscape, a question: Is it possible that the RSO have disturbing connections to Haleigh's natal chart because 1) RSOs have significant things in common in their makeup that manifest astrologically; and 2) Haleigh's natal chart shows that her own path crosses an RSO?

Not an astrologer myself, but very interested in your work. Thanks for posting your insights here.

Hello Pittsburghgirl,

While each of the RSOs I have examined in connection with this case has his own chart, I note several similarities among the aspects, and I believe it is accurate to say that, in general, particular aspects appear to be common in RSO charts.

Haleigh's natal chart shows abuse potential, the key word being "potential." It is always unwise to "predict" a person will become an abuse victim based on an aspect pattern; however, such patterns are always "red flags" to a forensic astrologer.

No matter how "disturbing" any connections between an RSO's natal chart and Haleigh's natal chart, we must also look for the links to both charts coming from a valid (i.e., timed) Event chart. It is the Event timing that triggers (sets into motion) the natal aspect patterns/ connections. There were several RSO charts "triggered" into action by what I believe to be the valid Event charts: LAST SEEN BY G-GMA and the 911 Call charts. That is perplexing, to say the least, for surely they couldn't all be responsible for Haleigh's disappearance, and it is just as possible that someone other than an RSO could have been the perp.

The charts repeatedly pointed to kidnapping, rape and death, and the charts repeatedly suggested a "family connection." By that I mean, the perp appears to be someone connected to Ronald and/or Misty, whether by blood or assocation is not so clear. Another thing the charts repeatedly made clear was a strong element of "incompetent" and/or "inadequate" caretaking on the part of "parents/guardians" that contributed to the event being able to happen in the first place.

I have stated in previous posts and repeat here: this was an abduction and I do not believe, nor do the charts support, direct involvement by Ronald or Misty.

Hope this helps,
Thanks,
Soulscape

salvarenga · #**265** 03-12-2009, 02:26 PM

Thanks to Angelwhocares......

Cummings Marriage Postponed?
March 12, 2009
Last Update: 12:44 pm
<snipped>
SAN MATEO, Fla. -- The San Mateo church, reportedly the site for the wedding, says none are scheduled for Thursday.
A family friend says that Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin are now looking for a location, and someone to wed them.

Dunns Creek Baptist Church emailed a statement to our newsroom stating that there is no wedding scheduled to take place on Thursday, March 12, 2009. The statement provided by Associate Pastor David Dixon asked that any announcements made regarding the Cummings-Croslin wedding at the church be retracted.
Jamie Watts, funeral director of Watts Funeral Home, 720 U.S. Hwy. 17 in San Mateo, says the couple originally asked him to perform the service; however, Watts says his notary status has expired.

Statement from Dunns Creek Baptist Church:
To Whom It May Concern:
There is no wedding scheduled to take place at Dunns Creek Baptist Church on Thursday, March 12, 2009. Pastor Terry Wright is out of town and the other full time pastors (David Dixon & Chad Perry) are not performing a wedding today. Please retract any announcements you have made regarding the Cummings / Croslin wedding taking place at Dunns Creek Baptist Church.
Thank you,
David Dixon
Assoc. Pastor
Dunns Creek Baptist Church

Article:
http://www.fox30online.com/content/t...zjxplaNig.cspx

Soulscape · #**266** 03-12-2009, 03:05 PM

Can anyone provide the time the search started today?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel Who Cares

100 Deputies, Officers Search New Area For Haleigh
Missing Girl's Father Plans To Get Married Thursday Afternoon
POSTED: Thursday, March 12, 2009
UPDATED: 12:39 pm EDT March 12, 2009
<snipped>
About 100 police cadets, deputies from Putnam, Clay, St. Johns and Marion counties and people from other agencies were searching a wooded area along U.S. Highway 17 and neighboring railroad tracks. The search area stretched almost 13 miles from Satsuma -- where Haleigh disappeared from her father's home before dawn on Feb. 10 -- south to Crescent City.
It has been 29 days since 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her home in Satsuma.
"The search is not a result of information received, but is being conducted to be sure that all areas are covered," Putnam County Sheriff's Office Capt. Dick Schauland said.
...

IMAGE: About 100 officers from nearly a dozen agencies searched a 13-mile strip of woods stretching from Satsuma to Crescent City.
http://www.news4jax.com/image/18915729/detail.html

...

Article:
http://www.news4jax.com/news/18915320/detail.html

<snipped for relevancy>

Thank you,
Soulscape

Capri · #**267** 03-12-2009, 04:51 PM

Looks like there's a trip planned for Ron & M- to be on honeymoon/Today Show in NYC, Fri. am.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l...133570&catid=3

Asker · #**268** 03-12-2009, 05:15 PM

[quote=salvarenga;3445251][quote=Asker;3442815]snipped for relevance...Like I said, I read the chart differently and do not see evidence of an outsider coming in the home in that chart. The facts as currently known back that part of my reading up. LE has said that they failed to find evidence left behind (whether DNA evidence or any other forensic evidence) of an outsider being in the home that night. LE has also said they found no evidence of forced entry.

Quote:

Can you please provide a link as to where LE stated, "that they failed to find evidence left behind (whether DNA evidence or any other forensic evidence) of an outsider being in the home that night."? I cannot find anything that backs that statement up.

No. Heard it on TV. Not even sure exactly when but recently. I realize that may be incorrect reporting but I personally find it credible and our own opinions are pretty much all we have to go on at this point.

lilac772 · #**269** 03-12-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulscape

Can anyone provide the time the search started today?

<snipped for relevancy>

Thank you,
Soulscape

Hello Soulscape. Please accept my appreciation for all the work hours you and the other astrologers have put in to finding Haleigh. Since I saw your request earlier today, I have been looking for a start time for today's search.

I have not come up with said time. This link is from a live 12pm eastern news update. In it the reporter talks of the gathering search effort all morning, then reports on the area that WILL BE searched....so if anyone else is looking, it appears to be after noon. I realize you need more, but it's a start. I will keep looking.

Thanks again.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l...133570&catid=3

Soulscape · #**270** 03-12-2009, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilac772

Hello Soulscape. Please accept my appreciation for all the work hours you and the other astrologers have put in to finding Haleigh. Since I saw your request earlier today, I have been looking for a start time for today's search.

I have not come up with said time. This link is from a live 12pm eastern news update. In it the reporter talks of the gathering search effort all morning, then reports on the area that WILL BE searched....so if anyone else is looking, it appears to be after noon. I realize you need more, but it's a start. I will keep looking.

Thanks again.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l...133570&catid=3

Thank you very much, Lilac.

The earliest time I have found so far was an article published online at 10:55 am by WESH.com. (That does not mean the search started at 10:55am, rather it's the time WESH posted the article to their web site.)

http://www.wesh.com/news/18915114/detail.html

I looked at the 10:55 am chart anyway and about fell off my chair...

CAPUT ALGOL, the most malefic Fixed Star in the Heavens, rises, partile exact ASCENDANT, 26 Taurus. That immediately tells me they are looking for a dead child. PLUTO (death/kidnapping, etc.) posited in 8th House of Death confirms. The NODES straddle the Midheaven/IC axis, showing what comes before the Public Eye.

MOON at 11 Libra is posited in the 5th House of Children, trine JUPITER Lord 8 and applying opposite its dispositer VENUS in detriment (bad shape) and Retrograde (not coming back) at 14 Aries conjunct the radix 12th House of Kidnapping Cusp which is the 8th House of Death of the 5th House Child. MERCURY Lord 5 the Child separates sextile from PLUTO (the death has already occurred). MERCURY is in Pisces (water). SATURN (natural significator of death) sits in the 5th House of Children, highlighted by its opposition to SUN exactly conj. URANUS at 22 Pisces. Notice MERCURY (Haleigh), SUN & URANUS all in Pisces disposited by JUPITER, Lord 8 of Death.

If anyone finds a reliable time for the start of the search I will look at the chart. In the meantime, the chart cast for the earliest moment the media posted the news of today's search on the Internet is worth our consideration...

Thanks,
Soulscape

Asker · #**271** 03-12-2009, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salem

According to this article - the presser was scheduled for 2:00 p.m. FL time, in Putnam County. http://www.gainesville.com/article/2...uled-for-2-p-m

I'm thinking they were pretty much on schedule based on the times of follow up articles. I'll see if I can find one

Salem

ETA: According to our time stamped documents, this article was created at about 2:38 EST, so they must have started right about 2:00 p.m.

Parents Make Emotional Plea for Haleigh's Return
Created: 3/10/2009 2:38:10 PM
Updated: 3/10/2009 6:01:46 PM
<snipped>
SATSUMA, FL -- Haleigh Cummings' parents had to fight through tears Tuesday afternoon as they made yet another plea for the return of their missing 5-year-old.
At a news conference hosted by the Justice Coalition, Ronald Cummings told his daughter, "You'll always be daddy's little girl; I love you." He then said, "Please, if you have my daughter, bring her home."
Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, echoed that. "Bring her home, please," she said, crying.
Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy, who is heading up the search for Haleigh, thanked the family and the community for their patience and cooperation.
Following the news conference, a local musician sang a song and people released balloons into the air.

Thanks Asker!

Salem, thanks for the time of the presser and I’m sorry it took so long for me to get back to you. I ran the presser chart for 2 pm.

March 10th was the Full Moon and in this chart I see the Sun (father) representing Ron and the Moon (mother) representing Crystal and since they were the main focus of the presser they are what I focused on in looking at this chart.

The Asc of the chart is 10 Cancer. This means the Moon rules the chart. The presser was about family. The Moon positioned in the 3rd house indicates the presser was about having the family speak.

The Moon also represents Crystal. The Moon is in Virgo in the 3rd house of communications and the Moon is conjunct Saturn which is retrograde. This defines Crystal as somewhat emotionally guarded and perhaps even fearful not to mention emotionally depressed. The Saturn retrograde might also indicate her recent hiring of professionals (Saturn) to work (Virgo) with her on various matters some of which were not handled well in the past (retrograde action).

Because it was a Full Moon the Sun and Moon are in opposition in this chart. The Sun in Pisces represents Ron and rules the 3rd house of communications. The Sun in Pisces often displays (the Sun) suffering (Pisces). The Sun is conjunct Uranus which indicates something may be off or odd or unusual in reference to the Sun’s behavior. The Sun may seem detached or nervous as well.

The 8th house rules the investigation and the investigators. The 8th house has Aquarius on the cusp. The modern ruler of Aquarius is Uranus and the traditional ruler of Aquarius is Saturn. So the investigators are watching both Ron and Crystal closely but perhaps in slightly different ways.

The Full Moon often brings things to light. I think the purpose of the presser was for the investigators to get another look at both Ron and Crystal in the hopes something would come to light.

The 4th house is the End of the Matter. Virgo and intercepted Libra rule the 4th house. The ruler of Virgo, Mercury is in its fall in Pisces in the 9th house. The ruler of Libra, Venus is in its detriment in Aries and retrograde in the intercepted 10th house. Either LE did not find what they were looking for or they are keeping what they learned very close to their vests.

LaLaw2000 · #**272** 03-12-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Salem

Respectfully snipped for length ~

Hi LaLaw2000 - I understand about those "feelings." I get them sometimes myself. Intuition can be such a good thing. In this case, NO I do not think this is a scam. I don't know who KSavage is, I have not followed that part of the discussion on Haleigh so don't have much insight there.

I really believe the charts here are very accurate. Understanding that they can not predict what will happen, they do give us a lot of information on what has happened. The charts and my intuition tell me Haleigh was taken. And to back that up I look at all the players. There is no doubt in my mind that Misti is holding back or deliberately misleading in the the information she has given to LE. What I have not been able to get clear is how much of that RC might know about? The grandparents are genuinely heartbroken, both grandmothers and grandfathers. I believe both RC and CS are genuinely heartbroken and they want Haleigh home. I do not believe that RC or CS would concoct such a scheme and hurt their parents in such a devastating manner. I just don't see that happening. I could be wrong - but in this case I don't think I am. Both RC and CS have supportive, loving parents. They may live a hard life, but it is evident their folks love them.

As Fifth Essence pointed out a few posts above this one - the charts and the evidence as we know it right now, strongly suggest that Haleigh was taken by someone familar with the family and the home. How familar, I don't know, but definitely familar enough to know the back screen door is creaky (I'm not sure I believe the "bricked" story), where the kitchen light was, where the children were in the house, etc.

Salem

Thank you so much for your answer, Salem! I appreciate it very much!

Asker · #**273** 03-12-2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capri

Looks like there's a trip planned for Ron & M- to be on honeymoon/Today Show in NYC, Fri. am.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l...133570&catid=3

Does anyone know if this trip to NYC has been canceled due to the wedding being canceled?

Asker · #**274** 03-12-2009, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulscape

Thank you very much, Lilac.

The earliest time I have found so far was an article published online at 10:55 am by WESH.com. (That does not mean the search started at 10:55am, rather it's the time WESH posted the article to their web site.)

http://www.wesh.com/news/18915114/detail.html

I looked at the 10:55 am chart anyway and about fell off my chair...

CAPUT ALGOL, the most malefic Fixed Star in the Heavens, rises, partile exact ASCENDANT, 26 Taurus. That immediately tells me they are looking for a dead child. PLUTO (death/kidnapping, etc.) posited in 8th House of Death confirms. The NODES straddle the Midheaven/IC axis, showing what comes before the Public Eye.

MOON at 11 Libra is posited in the 5th House of Children, trine JUPITER Lord 8 and applying opposite its dispositer VENUS in detriment (bad shape) and Retrograde (not coming back) at 14 Aries conjunct the radix 12th House of Kidnapping Cusp which is the 8th House of Death of the 5th House Child. MERCURY Lord 5 the Child separates sextile from PLUTO (the death has already occurred). MERCURY is in Pisces (water). SATURN (natural significator of death) sits in the 5th House of Children, highlighted by its opposition to SUN exactly conj. URANUS at 22 Pisces. Notice MERCURY (Haleigh), SUN & URANUS all in Pisces disposited by JUPITER, Lord 8 of Death.

If anyone finds a reliable time for the start of the search I will look at the chart. In the meantime, the chart cast for the earliest moment the media posted the news of today's search on the Internet is worth our consideration...

Thanks,
Soulscape

Thank you, Soulscape. It is a disturbing chart and you laid it out perfectly. I noted one more minor point in the chart that further confirms what you already have read. The 4th house cusp (the End of the Matter) is 10 Leo and the South Node is 8 Leo indicating an unfortunate ending.

Thanks again.

nursebeeme · #**275** 03-12-2009, 08:17 PM

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Does anyone know if this trip to NYC has been canceled due to the wedding being canceled?

Hi asker! First of all, thank you for your chart on the presser. It was very interesting and just the way I, in fact saw it myself on a gut level if you will.

They are married.
http://www.wesh.com/news/18915114/detail.html

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~~snip~~~The family told WESH 2 News that Ronald Cummings, 25, married 17-year-old Misty Croslin in a private ceremony. The couple is schedule to appear on NBC's Today Show at 7:30 a.m. Friday~~snip~~~