POI * Serial Killer? - Page 2

DotsEyes · #26 03-29-2009, 04:09 AM

HOLY MOLY. I just checked the available info of dates the girls were last seen or when they were found. It hit me like a brick. I looked at a map.

Maybe this is a college kid from Lake Charles! He passes through Jennings, half way to Lafayette every time he goes back and forth. Stops for fast food, maybe some pot. It's been 3 1/2 years and he is would be about to graduate from USL. The dates seem to coordinate with semesters to me.

The lapse between 5/05 and 3/07 would be Katrina/Rita related. Car trashed? Evacuated? Semesters off?

March '07. Easter? Spring break? Mardi Gras?

Then May 07.
Then May 08.

Coming home from school? Mother's day? End of semester?

Then 8/27.
On the way to school?

Then Nov. 1, 08. Halloween was day before. It is All Saints Day. Is it also Mid-terms?

Maybe there was a big Halloween party somewhere at home in Lake Charles or a long weekend from school?

Or maybe it is a trucker or the baker, I don't know.

I just had to think it through.

Thanks for listening.

Trying to think out of the box and using what we know to find a clue.

scandi · #27 03-29-2009, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mysterygirl

My husband is from Jennings. After the second body was found, I said..serial killer and everyone laughed. Now 7 bodies later.......

Just something I was thinking of.....the route between the dollar store and Brittany's destination (last vic.) was not a long one as I recall. Everyone was thinking that she got into a car (though scared, so she had to feel OK around person) and yet no one saw anything, suspicious car....What if she went to a house on that walk. Then no car would have even been seen picking her up...I wonder if law enforcement has checked all addresses from point a to point b....someone might stick out with criminal history, known assoc. etc....

Darn excellent Sleuthin' there Mysterygirl ;}

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Originally Posted by DotsEyes

I had never heard of these murders before and stubled upon this forum one day. I am serious - 7 young women in what, 3 1/2 years? It's makes my skin crawl. I haven't gotten through all the posts yet, but it seems the Sheriff is getting assistance from the FBI and other agencies.

Oh. I just had a thought. Back later.

I think I remember this case! Were all these girls prostitutes and found quite close to each other in a canal that was close to or within walking distance of the buildings in the town? I'll have to go look at the original postings. I would be glad to sleuth with you on this case, of course don't know if I would be any help. ;}

waltzingmatilda · #28 03-29-2009, 11:34 AM

You are a great sleuth scandi! I've read your intelligent posts on other threads. Everyone's input is helpful.

I just stumbled on this forum a few days ago myself and have been reading through to catch up. This is my first post. I'd like to sleuth this case with all of you as well!

scandi · #29 03-29-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda

You are a great sleuth scandi! I've read your intelligent posts on other threads. Everyone's input is helpful.

I just stumbled on this forum a few days ago myself and have been reading through to catch up. This is my first post. I'd like to sleuth this case with all of you as well!

Neatp and it's great to see you Waltzingmatilda! I'm going to go read a bit to bone up. xox

DotsEyes · #30 03-29-2009, 01:39 PM

WalzingMatilda and Scandi! So great to see you here!

Scandi - there are allegations (from LE) that the girls traded sex for drugs, abused drugs and alcohol and that cocaine and alcohol were in their bodies at autospy. As I stated earlier this paints all the girls with a rather broad brush and may or may not apply to all or any of the girls for all I know. And, I call them girls because to me they are all so young. It is not meant to diminish them as women in any way.

3 of the girls were found floating in canals, the others were found on land. 5 were found in close proximity to one another, 2 were much farther away than the suspected dump area. There are maps in the "Maps, Photos,. . " and "Information" threads.

mysterygirl · #31 03-29-2009, 05:23 PM

Yes it could be a college boy from Lake Charles (where I live) but I doubt it.

Whoever it is, runs in the same circle with these girls---who all knew each other. They feel somewhat comfortable with him. Rumors of LE involvement have been prevalent. Perhaps it is some kind of narc. ( give police info. but still involved in drugs, so somewhat protected)...

Regarding the lapse in time, many theories have surfaced. Jail, offshore work, military, relocated etc....

Location of the bodies says that someone is very familiar with the area. I saw it as a taunt that one body was dumped on the way to the police shooting range. Locals living around these dump sites have noticed suspicious cars in the area....they suspected drug deals on these remote country roads. They said police did little about it.

What is shocking to me is the size of this town...no greater than 7500....that's a lot of bodies for such a small town.

The task force meets at a particular location.....and many times, even late, there is a bevy of activity/many cars when I pass by....

DotsEyes · #32 03-30-2009, 12:50 AM

Mysterygirl - well, it was a brain cramp I was having because I know nothing of what is going on in Jennings.

7,500 people? Maybe they should ask all the men in Jennings to submit to a DNA swab to rule them out, since there was DNA (allegedly) found on Brittany. It worked in England. Start with LE and all the politicians, Lawyers, doctors, businessmen - civic duty an all that - a show of interest in getting the cases solved and Jennings residents cleared. The ones that do not show up, get the DNA surreptitously and check them first.

Yeah, I know - too expensive and no one will cooperate.

mysterygirl · #33 03-30-2009, 02:44 PM

LOL DotEyes,..........no, you didn't have a brain cramp...it is helpful to talk about scenarios! I actually have pondered the DNA thing buy you're right, too costly........heck they didn't even want to admit to "serial killer".

I have a feeling that whoever it is could avoid the DNA testing anyway, moves in and out of town too much? Houston to New Orleans I10 is a big drug corridor for running drugs...maybe involved in that.

DotsEyes · #34 03-30-2009, 06:32 PM

I had no idea that this was a drug corridor. All I know is I hate driving that stretch of I-10 - Houston to New Orleans because it is chock full of zooming 18 wheelers, pot holes, detours, poor lane markings and is always in a state of deconstruction/reconstruction. It is a white knuckle drive and makes me nervous!

I don't think we are looking at a big rig driver. The 18 wheeler wouldn't be able to get to the dump sites without everyone noticing. Same for LE, everyone knows the cars/people and would have noticed a connection of some sort. I can't see the logic in a drug dealer killing his clients nor a pimp killing his "stable".

Something connects these girls to one another other than drugs, prostitution or residence. It is almost as if he waited for Brittany to return to Jennings and he killed her best friend and her cousin. It isn't a coincidence that these 3 are connected to one another.

mysterygirl · #35 03-31-2009, 04:40 AM

No I don't think we are looking at a truck driver either but I do think it is possible that the killer moves in and out of town a lot.....maybe that is why there was a gap in the killing.

I definitely feel that Brittany was killed because she knew something, maybe she didn't even know that she knew something (make sense?) but the killer was paranoid.

It is no accident that that they knew each other..some even dated within the same family/had children ....much of this had to do with interracial matters also. Not trying to make a race thing but it is just fact. That could somehow play into the cause of death...the black victims seemed to die in a more brutal fashion (slit throat) as opposed to some of the white victims.

geauxgirl · #36 04-01-2009, 12:55 PM

Has anyone looked into possible connections through high schools? I know the jobs have been looked into but maybe if they all went to the same high school... Since most of them are teens and in their early 20s it would be possible that a link could be established that way.

geauxgirl · #37 04-01-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DotsEyes

I had no idea that this was a drug corridor. All I know is I hate driving that stretch of I-10 - Houston to New Orleans because it is chock full of zooming 18 wheelers, pot holes, detours, poor lane markings and is always in a state of deconstruction/reconstruction. It is a white knuckle drive and makes me nervous!

Oh you are so right. That drive from Baton Rouge to Lake Charles and back always makes me nervous. I hate it. Plus people from Louisiana drive like a bat out of you-know-where anyway.

I'm thinking the killer was definitely born and raised in the vacinity of Jennings and that he doesn't necessarily live there now. Maybe Lake Charles, Alexandria or Lafayette. But I also think his job takes him to many cities in South Louisiana. A deliveryman or a salesman possibly?

DotsEyes · #38 04-01-2009, 04:44 PM

Food for thought. Most Sk's first kills/dumps are close to their own home. So, yes, I agree that the guy was likely born and raised in Jennings.

eg@gm · #39 04-01-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by geauxgirl

Has anyone looked into possible connections through high schools? I know the jobs have been looked into but maybe if they all went to the same high school... Since most of them are teens and in their early 20s it would be possible that a link could be established that way.

This isn't a town that has several schools. I'm betting there is only one high school.

mysterygirl · #40 04-01-2009, 09:23 PM

There is only one high school and I don't know that most of these girls finished or went?

DotsEyes · #41 04-02-2009, 05:05 AM

Just putting the dates and ages together. . .

Loretta was 29 in 5/05, she would be 33 now.
Ernestine was 30 in 6/05, she would be 34 now.
Kristen was 21 in 3/07, she would be 23 now.
Whitnei was 26 in 5/07, she would be 28 now.
Laconia was 23 in 5/08, she would be 24 now.
Crystal was 24 in 9/08, she would be almost 25 now.
Brittany was 17 in 11/08, she would be almost 18 now.

'05 - ages 29, 30
'07 - 21 - 26
'08 - 23, 24, 17.

It is a possibility that a high school connection exists with Crystal,(25) Laconia, (24) and Kristen (23) and perhaps they attended in school together. They may have all attended the same high school for all I know, but maybe not at the same time.

fran · #42 04-02-2009, 02:37 PM

Thought this was interesting......

With regard to the first post indicated, is AMW going to have it on their website or not? I can't locate it.

With regard to the second post, could this have anything to do with the one girl who (who was under arrest) and sold her truck to an officer, who IIRC was an investigator of this case, and the truck turns out may have had something to do with at least one of the murders? Oh, and his last name was Gary????

JMHO
fran

http://www.topix.com/city/jennings-l...mystery-deaths

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We have it confirmed what has long been suspected. America's Most Wanted have contacted some of the family members and wanted to help. Sheriff Edwards has turned down their help. He doesn't need their experience nor their resources. Makes ya wonder...WHY?
AMW said they have been flooded with requests to come to Jennings but without the cooperation of the Sheriff, they are at a stand still.
If this atrocity of refusal for help by the Sheriff, a person who is sworn to serve and protect, bothers anyone...or they question the move of turning down AMW, who has the vast resources to help in solving these murders after 3 1/2 years of nothing Please direct your questions or concerns to
Sheriff Ricky Edwards (he is in the phone book)
email address is sheriff@jeffdavis.net
mailing address is P O Box 863, Jennings, LA 70546
if possible, please forward to America's Most Wanted

angelicious-420
Hammond, LA
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Well, first off I think that the police in this town are a piece of ****. My dad is the investigator working on these murders in Jennings. I don't see how so many girls keep getting murdered. There was a rumor or not, that one the jailers from the Jennings Police Department had something to do with it. But who knows. I think Ricky Edwards could do alot more than this. This is really some bull****. And i also think that who ever knows something should come forward and say something because some one they love might come up missing next. And thats the reality of it.

fran · #43 04-02-2009, 02:41 PM

Oh, I also wondered if these cases could have anything to do with the prostitute murders in Atlantic City? They were in 2006, I believe. There were basically two sets of prostitute murders in Atlantic City. Two and one attempt were earlier in 2006, I believe, all three had their throat slashed. The second group of murders, four, found in water, two strangled, two unknown COD and the four last all had high levels of drugs.

Just something to think about.

JMHO
fran

DotsEyes · #44 04-03-2009, 07:18 AM

Fran - expound please.

How and why does the perp move from south Louisiana to AC?

Then back?

SewingDeb · #45 04-03-2009, 10:24 PM

Perhaps the killer is a truck driver?

SewingDeb · #46 04-05-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DotsEyes

Fran - expound please.

How and why does the perp move from south Louisiana to AC?

Then back?

Check out this FBI map:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,2434292.story

fran · #47 04-05-2009, 10:07 AM

I'm not sure that the Jenning's murders and AC murders are connected, but I believe it should be taken into consideration as a possibility. And SD is right, it could be a truck driver............which COULD mean there are 'other' related cases in 'other' cities, other states............there's women disappearing from Las Vegas and found years later, scattered around the country. Connected as well, I dunno.

It could very well be a coincidence that the two locations, (or perhaps three) mentioned have the same type of murders, drug related, sex trade related, throats slashed on some, some found in water.........

At this point in time, I wouldn't rule anything out. Each case, each city's string of murders and disappearances, COULD be part of an even bigger picture.

JMHO
fran

DotsEyes · #48 04-06-2009, 01:46 PM

Thanks for the post about the FBI investigation.

Of course it is a possibility and the FBI is involved in Jennings, but I think that the places where the girls in Jennings were dumped are not normal 18 wheeler truck routes. Maybe a local will pop in and tell us about the streets leading to the dump sites.

These girls have one thing in common, they were all known by T. Gary, mother of Brittany (among others, I am sure). Some have family or friendship ties to one another. For instance, Brittany's cousin and best friend were also victims.

mysterygirl · #49 04-06-2009, 02:07 PM

The dump sites would not be great for a large truck....think farmland, some gravel roads and scattered houses.

There are enough houses/people on a couple of these sites where a large truck would be heard and probably noticed.

These sites are country, out of the way, and known by people familiar with the area. If you just drove randomly and were not from the area, you could get lost. The most interesting site to me is the one one the way to the POLICE SHOOTING RANGE. Someone knew the place where cops practiced shooting and wanted the someone in law enforcement to find the body..hmmmmmmmm

TopGunner · #50 04-07-2009, 10:36 PM

We will continually try to educate our community on what behavioral characteristics to look for. We know with cases like this which have occurred in the United States, this type of offender will have attempted to approach, even hurt other women, but those women got away, or maybe didn't even realize they were in jeopardy or at risk. We know that the offender or offenders has made mistakes. We are holding that information close to the investigation. Although this person looked "normal" there was likely something about him that caused concern. Maybe you described it as the "Creep Factor". This is someone we believe comes across as somewhat arrogant as well. If you have had an experience like this, we want you to please come forward and talk to us. Please don't shrug off an event and just say, "Oh that was nothing." Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Let law enforcement make that call.
Do you know someone who is:
Superficially glib and charming
Self-Confident
Appears non-threatening initially
Physically Strong - not to be confused with someone who works out every day at the gym
Frequents the area where the girls go missing from
Quick to Anger especially if rejected
Lures girls with alcohol and drugs (Crack Cocaine)
May have a formal criminal record involving assaultive behavior with a knife and may include burglary
May not necessarily have a violent criminal history
http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9550151