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03-25-2009, 02:37 PM
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Well, one thing we know for sure, we now know why she didn't come along with Cindy and Caylee on Father's day.
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03-25-2009, 02:37 PM
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If I am reading the documents correctly, it appears that someone accessed Casey's photobucket account at about 9:37am on the 16th of June. Her photobucket account was accessed from Lee's ip address (the A's home) a number of times in early June. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5067315/...d_computerlogs
Can any of you super sleuths figure out what was uploaded that morning? I wonder if it was the father's day footage? It seems an odd thing to be uploading if she killed her the night before?
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Bunnyphoenix, the father's day footage was uploaded June 17 at 03:31:23 pm.
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03-25-2009, 05:08 PM
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Great question...and I don't recall LE asking Cindy or George or anyone where she was that day, when she arrived at the house, when she dropped off Caylee for Cindy to take to the nursing home etc. Did TL say she spent the day with him?
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Just a thought - KC did not need to arrive at the house or drop off Caylee because she lived there at the time.
ETA - the cell phone pings say KC was at or near her home until around 9:15am, then at or near Tony's until about 7:15pm, then at or near her home all night.
MOO - I think she begged off from seeing Grandpa because she had to go to her imaginary job.
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03-25-2009, 08:46 PM
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And now, pictures of the twins...here's little Lucy, watching paint dry...
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Here is what was uploaded on the 17th. This is the ONLY Photobucket upload that day.
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That is a picture of Fusion. In case that is pertinent information. I go there for sushi often, before the lights go out it's actually an upscale sushi bar.
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03-25-2009, 09:01 PM
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Here is what was uploaded on the 17th. This is the ONLY Photobucket upload that day.
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03-25-2009, 09:23 PM
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Does anyone know where KC was on the 15th? I remember Lee having an excuse (can't remember what it was exactly), GA was at work, CA and Caylee were at the nursing home and then SP's, where was KC this whole day??
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you can discuss this here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...highlight=june
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03-25-2009, 10:05 PM
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Just some *** notes *** on the 16th. I haven't dug into this like most but I wonder what really was discussed on the phone during this period.
8:46 AM calls AL
11:47 AM AL calls
12:53 PM calls AL
12:55 PM AL calls
1:00 PM AL calls 829 seconds
1:26 PM texts JG
1:37 PM text from JG
1:44 PM calls AH 2164 seconds *** 35 min ? **** what was discussed
2:52 PM call from JG 673 seconds *** Constant talking *****
3:04 PM call from GA 25 seconds *** Constant talking ****
3:35 PM calls AL 22 seconds
4:10 PM calls GA at work 34 seconds ******* Something happened between 3:04 - 4:10 *****
4:11 PM calls CA twice
4:13 PM calls CA twice
4:14 PM calls GA 98 seconds ******* What was discussed *********
4:18 PM texts AL (now appears to be travelling away from Anthony home) **** is body in car now *******
4:19 PM text from AL
4:19 PM calls AL
4:21 PM calls JG twice; second call 75 seconds
4:25 PM calls CA 3 seconds (now pinging near AL's apt)
6:31 PM calls CA
6:32 PM calls CA
6:32 PM calls home
7:06 PM calls home
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03-25-2009, 10:29 PM
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Just some *** notes *** on the 16th. I haven't dug into this like most but I wonder what really was discussed on the phone during this period.
8:46 AM calls AL
11:47 AM AL calls
12:53 PM calls AL
12:55 PM AL calls
1:00 PM AL calls 829 seconds
1:26 PM texts JG
1:37 PM text from JG
1:44 PM calls AH 2164 seconds *** 35 min ? **** what was discussed
2:52 PM call from JG 673 seconds *** Constant talking *****
3:04 PM call from GA 25 seconds *** Constant talking ****
3:35 PM calls AL 22 seconds
4:10 PM calls GA at work 34 seconds ******* Something happened between 3:04 - 4:10 *****
4:11 PM calls CA twice
4:13 PM calls CA twice
4:14 PM calls GA 98 seconds ******* What was discussed *********
4:18 PM texts AL (now appears to be travelling away from Anthony home) **** is body in car now *******
4:19 PM text from AL
4:19 PM calls AL
4:21 PM calls JG twice; second call 75 seconds
4:25 PM calls CA 3 seconds (now pinging near AL's apt)
6:31 PM calls CA
6:32 PM calls CA
6:32 PM calls home
7:06 PM calls home
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http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...highlight=june
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03-25-2009, 11:53 PM
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I think the sequence of events went something like this:
- Uploaded picture of Fusion to Photobucket.
- Says goodbye to George as she leaves for "work."
- Kills Caylee.
- Watches movies with Tony at Tony's.
- Uploads picture of Tony and her to Photobucket.
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I'm loosing it, JWG. LOL When did Casey upload the Father's Day video??
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03-26-2009, 12:10 AM
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I'm loosing it, JWG. LOL When did Casey upload the Father's Day video??
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Hey Friday...good question!
I have an even better one though!
Who said she uploaded the video? And to what website? I have the video and it is irritatingly large - 25 MB.
I think she simply "uploaded" it from the camera to the desktop, and then copied it from the desktop to the laptop. But I don't think she ever "uploaded" it to a website.
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03-26-2009, 01:43 AM
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Hmm looking at the sequence of phone calls it confirms my original thoughts that she was home and was on the phone and computer and Caylee drowned and then possibly put her in the sand box and came back next day and got her in the trunk.
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03-26-2009, 02:02 AM
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Could Casey ( or someone else in the household) have uploaded the video and stills to try to establish an alibi for particular dates?
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03-26-2009, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JWG
Hey Friday...good question!
I have an even better one though!
Who said she uploaded the video? And to what website? I have the video and it is irritatingly large - 25 MB.
I think she simply "uploaded" it from the camera to the desktop, and then copied it from the desktop to the laptop. But I don't think she ever "uploaded" it to a website.
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In one of his iv's, Lee said he thought she uploaded it to her myspace on the 15th...I think he is saying Cindy told him that. It's on the last page of this investigative report...
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5051673/...gs-2401-2450-f
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03-26-2009, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bunnyphoenix1
Great question...and I don't recall LE asking Cindy or George or anyone where she was that day, when she arrived at the house, when she dropped off Caylee for Cindy to take to the nursing home etc. Did TL say she spent the day with him?
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IIRC, kc left her parents home shortly after 9:00am (about the time cindy left) and went to TL's. She spent most of her day there.
She returned to folks house between 5: and 7  m. Talked and typed texts to TL from appr. 7:15 pm till about 3:00am the next day.
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03-26-2009, 03:01 PM
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If it went to myspace this would make more sense. It clearly did not go to Photobucket. The information in the computer data regarding myspace is rather thin.
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Originally Posted by JWG
I think the sequence of events went something like this:
- Uploaded picture of Fusion to Photobucket.
- Says goodbye to George as she leaves for "work."
- Kills Caylee.
- Watches movies with Tony at Tony's.
- Uploads picture of Tony and her to Photobucket.
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According to my notes, this is also the day she had a 16-minute phone conversation with JG, and he claims he heard Caylee in the background.
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Hey Friday...good question!
I have an even better one though!
Who said she uploaded the video? And to what website? I have the video and it is irritatingly large - 25 MB.
I think she simply "uploaded" it from the camera to the desktop, and then copied it from the desktop to the laptop. But I don't think she ever "uploaded" it to a website.
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Ah ha!!  We do think however that she had it on her laptop the morning of 6/17, 6/18 right? When AL saw her looking at it in bed?
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Originally Posted by JWG
I think the sequence of events went something like this:
- Uploaded picture of Fusion to Photobucket.
- Says goodbye to George as she leaves for "work."
- Kills Caylee.
- Watches movies with Tony at Tony's.
- Uploads picture of Tony and her to Photobucket.
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I totally agree with you on your thoughts of the sequence of events...I also think that same about the uploading of the FD-Video being uploaded to the laptop.
Since KC seems to be an impulsive type, I'm going to venture to guess that if she had thoughts of premeditated murder for Caylee (or even the A's) at one time, whatever occurred on 6/15 propelled her into seeing that plan through most likely in a fit of rage similar to what we saw in her jailhouse video's. I doubt uploading that video would have been top of her list of things to do hours after Caylee's murder.
Sorry mods if this seems o/t but, it really does follow with the topic...
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03-26-2009, 06:30 PM
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Or... runs in the house, decides to check email first, gets side tracked by computer and forgets Caylee is in the car.
Nahhh - it was premeditated...
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If Caylee died in the car she would have been found with shoes. Or shoes would have been found in Casey's car. George said Caylee and Casey were wearing shoes when they went to "work".
I think Casey's picture upload on June 16 helps bolster George's account. Casey WAS in the Anthony home that morning.
I think something happened to Caylee around the time she would have been put down for a nap because of the "no shoes".
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03-26-2009, 06:37 PM
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Cindy stated in one of her earlier interviews that Casey was such a good mother that she always kept a spare car key in her pocket because she was afraid she would lock the key in a very hot car with Caylee. I can't believe a word Cindy says but I'll assume in this case she is telling the truth. This would mean that Casey was super sensitive to the dangers of leaving Caylee in a hot car in Florida. If she was left in a trunk in Florida, it was no accident.
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Hmm.. always kept a spare key in her pocket, afraid of locking Caylee in car? If Caylee was never in the car alone Casey would have no reason for this fear. I see this to mean that she OFTEN left Caylee in there, and kept a spare key in case she accidently locked herself out (and possibly had done it before since she was at the point of fear to consistently keep a spare with her)
Wow, I'm glad you told me that as I hadn't heard it before. It strengthens my feeling about what happened.
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03-26-2009, 06:41 PM
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If Caylee died in the car, she would have had shoes on.
George said Caylee and Casey were wearing shoes when they went to "work".
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That doesn't really follow. First, we don't know if George's account is accurate. And second, if his account is accurate, then that means that Caylee didn't die that afternoon because her remains were found with different clothes too. (or at least her clothes were changed - in which its plausible that her shoes were too)
The more telling article is the doll. Caylee never left that car alive because she wouldn't have left her doll behind. She got in the car (alive) with it - never left.
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The more telling article is the doll. Caylee never left that car alive because she wouldn't have left her doll behind. She got in the car (alive) with it - never left.
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Or she may have been lifted out of the car asleep, e.g. if she had nodded off while being driven around by KC (while waiting for GA to go to work so that she could return to the house).
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In that florida heat, it would take long for a child to die in a car. With KC coming and going from the house all the time, I bet she would just leave Caylee in the car (in the car seat, not the trunk). Anyone with kids knows it's a real pain strapping them in, and unstrapping them from the car seat. Especially if you are running in and out of places. I can totally see Casey leaving Caylee in the car while she "run's in" the house only to come back out shortly after to find her dead.
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I brought this (heat) up a few times. Last summer I remember the weathercasters on TV saying we broke a record for the month of June: "most number of consecutive days that exceeded 90 degrees F".
It's a shame that every summer here in Fla a few children die because they are left in a car. I can only imagine how much faster it would happen if there was duct tape over the mouth!
It's SO weird that a video of a child could be uploaded in around the same timespan that that same child is killed. I know it takes time to hook up the camera to the USB and transfer it and all.
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That doesn't really follow. First, we don't know if George's account is accurate. And second, if his account is accurate, then that means that Caylee didn't die that afternoon because her remains were found with different clothes too. (or at least her clothes were changed - in which its plausible that her shoes were too)
The more telling article is the doll. Caylee never left that car alive because she wouldn't have left her doll behind. She got in the car (alive) with it - never left.
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Casey's phone pings and the picture she uploaded on her computer support George's account. Casey didn't leave and go anywhere in a huff. She was in the Anthony home using one of their computers later in the morning.
George said Caylee was wearing a pink shirt. The shirt found with Caylee was pink. It makes sense Casey would have removed Caylee's shoes and sunglasses and possibly changed her disposable diaper and pants/skirt before putting Caylee down for a nap.
Casey wouldn't have taken Caylee outside in Florida without shoes.
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There is no reason for George to lie about seeing Casey and Caylee on June 16. It tightens the timeline and it incriminates Casey MORE. In no way did/does George's account give Casey an alibi or help Casey.
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